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Post by peggs on May 8, 2017 19:52:09 GMT
It's no good those badges simply aren't big enough I suggested to @theatremonkey the other day that he should sell his own range of cuddly toy theatre monkeys & board members could take them to the theatre & use them to identify each other. Much more obvious than a small badge! and with the added bonus that I could hide behind it during bloody scenes! Plus think what looks we would generate and wonder pr for theatremonkey!
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Post by lynette on May 8, 2017 20:20:51 GMT
Yep, send round the toy monkey...as if I'm not odd enough as it is! 😳😳
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 20:48:37 GMT
Awful
The playwright
Can only present
Simpletons on stage
Goons
People who basically add nothing to society
It's about as sophisticated as Emmerdale
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Post by peggs on May 8, 2017 21:59:44 GMT
And if we give Parsley a monkey it came be hurled in disgust when a production has been found to be lacking.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 22:15:28 GMT
Children swearing
People drinking whisky
A bunch of socially retarded idiots
I found this painful to watch
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Post by crowblack on May 8, 2017 22:23:41 GMT
It got quite a dressing down on front row Comparing it to The Archers Saturday Review. Two of the reviewers said pretty much what I thought, and even the presenter conceded that the Aunt Maggie Far Away speech was pushing it. I was just expecting it to be fresher, sharper, darker, less obviously derivative, less kitsch. It's a play you could add musical numbers to without substantially changing the feel of it.
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Post by adolphus on May 8, 2017 22:26:03 GMT
Children swearing People drinking whisky A bunch of socially retarded idiots I found this painful to watch Yes, Irish and working class too How ghastly! Poor, poor you
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 22:26:15 GMT
It got quite a dressing down on front row Comparing it to The Archers Saturday Review. Two of the reviewers said pretty much what I thought, and even the presenter conceded that the Aunt Maggie Far Away speech was pushing it. I was just expecting it to be fresher, sharper, darker, less obviously derivative, less kitsch. It's a play you could add musical numbers to without substantially changing the feel of it. The writing is painful The characters are painful The whole thing is like having open surgery Whilst still awake I wanted to scream out loud several Times
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 22:26:42 GMT
Children swearing People drinking whisky A bunch of socially retarded idiots I found this painful to watch Yes, Irish and working class too How ghastly! Poor, poor you Lovely baby and children excellent
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 22:27:21 GMT
And if we give Parsley a monkey it came be hurled in disgust when a production has been found to be lacking. We would need a lot of monkeys. And a Cruelty to Soft Toys reporting helpline.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 22:40:16 GMT
And if we give Parsley a monkey it came be hurled in disgust when a production has been found to be lacking. We would need a lot of monkeys. And a Cruelty to Soft Toys reporting helpline. 🤗
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Post by adolphus on May 9, 2017 1:12:35 GMT
Yes, Irish and working class too How ghastly! Poor, poor you Lovely baby and children excellent But some awful characters had guns And worse They shopped at Spar Polluting the stage. I was sick after screaming so much
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Post by showgirl on May 9, 2017 5:56:45 GMT
I was hoping this would be different from and - imo, as everyone else loved it - better than Jerusalem, which I found tedious and abandoned at the second interval. But it's not sounding promising!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 6:04:32 GMT
I was hoping this would be different from and - imo, as everyone else loved it - better than Jerusalem, which I found tedious and abandoned at the second interval. But it's not sounding promising! There is no single performance in the play as eye catching As Jerusalem had in it
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 11:55:19 GMT
I think it's safe to assume that Parsley hasn't invested in this West End show.
There is room in the West End for both The Ferryman and 42nd Street.
Intelligent human drama and mindless american spectacle appeal to different demographics.
There is no need for investors in one to slag off the other.
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Post by crowblack on May 9, 2017 12:27:06 GMT
There is room in the West End for both The Ferryman and 42nd Street. I don't agree with Parsley, btw - it wasn't awful, and I wasn't bored, but there were plenty of times I was thinking shame they can't use that combine harvester on the script and characters and give this thing some structure and tension. It felt like a West End crowdpleaser, not very Royal Court.
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Post by kathryn on May 9, 2017 13:00:44 GMT
And if we give Parsley a monkey it came be hurled in disgust when a production has been found to be lacking. I'm now picturing a post-hurl Parsley going up to the stage manager at the interval and saying, 'excuse me, can I have my monkey back?'.
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Post by crowblack on May 9, 2017 23:00:19 GMT
Btw, have they cut the business with the candle and the lamp from the first scene in the kitchen? I haven't noticed references to it.
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Post by bingomatic on May 10, 2017 6:36:24 GMT
Btw, have they cut the business with the candle and the lamp from the first scene in the kitchen? I haven't noticed references to it. It was there on Monday night. Along with the fire extinguisher.... Great 3 hours of theatre !
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Post by crowblack on May 10, 2017 10:07:49 GMT
When I saw it (first preview week) I think many, including me, thought it was a mishap so I wondered if they'd drop it. I didn't read anything into the smoke warnings because I haven't been to a play recently that hasn't had one of them - usually for smoking a fag or some lighting effect.
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Post by crowblack on May 10, 2017 23:29:38 GMT
Along with the fire extinguisher. The very unlikely fire extinguisher!
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Post by jadnoop on May 11, 2017 22:11:53 GMT
Very late to the party here, but I went to the matinee performance today and was absolutely blown away. The acting was top notch (although occasionally Paddy Considine's accent sounded a little American to my ear), especially the younger cast, and the blend of the family/vengeance/love drama within the wider context of the politics seemed just right. I had a pretty cheap seat (slips 3) but felt close to the action... although admittedly a couple of key points were out of my view. I do wonder though, how the play's ending would feel for people who haven't read Of Mice And Men. (Assuming that the stature of the actor was chosen in the script) the story strongly suggests Lennie, which kinda leaves you expecting the story beat that sets off the final few moments. . Will definitely try to see it again (in a better seat) when it hits the west end.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 23:53:46 GMT
Brilliant play, very strong production. Lots of great performances but special mention to Laura Donnelly - she brings such a rich sense of life and loss to the role. Wanted a bit more from Paddy Considine, who I hoped might offer a little more on-stage threat and menace than he did - something he manages to do so well on screen - but he was mostly decent. {Spoiler - click to view}The post-dinner dance scene is one of the best acted, smoothly executed bits of choreography that I think I've ever seen on stage; a particularly commendable achievement considering that they will be subbing in different children for different performances depending on which of the actresses are playing the three youngest Carney girls. {Spoiler - click to view}The only criticism I had with the direction was right at the end; it's a busy denouement, with lots of people on stage, and it didn't seem as clean as it could have done. All in all it is the best new play I have seen for a very long time, so as far as I'm concerned the complimentary critical reception it has garnered is well-placed. As a small side note, the Royal Court are probably going to get a lot of credit for this, but apparently the play was commissioned by Sonia Friedman (post-Jerusalem) and the Royal Court are only housing it because a) Butterworth wanted to do so out of loyalty to the theatre and b) it would get the show reviewed prior to the West End opening, which was going to aid ticket sales for Friedman etc. The last big Royal Court hit was probably Hangmen - which I believe Martin McDonagh wrote for the National, and when they passed on producing it the Royal Court jumped in on that too. So considering it's assumed position as the world's leading new writing theatre, the Royal Court is in a rich vein of luck when it comes to its programming... Not sure what other people make of the fact that the play opened at the Royal Court rather than straight into the West End, but it seems to be another example of the fact that new plays will not open in the West End cold unless they have a superstar like Nicole Kidman in them.
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Post by bordeaux on May 12, 2017 6:49:15 GMT
As a small side note, the Royal Court are probably going to get a lot of credit for this, but apparently the play was commissioned by Sonia Friedman (post-Jerusalem) and the Royal Court are only housing it because a) Butterworth wanted to do so out of loyalty to the theatre and b) it would get the show reviewed prior to the West End opening, which was going to aid ticket sales for Friedman etc. The last big Royal Court hit was probably Hangmen - which I believe Martin McDonagh wrote for the National, and when they passed on producing it the Royal Court jumped in on that too. So considering it's assumed position as the world's leading new writing theatre, the Royal Court is in a rich vein of luck when it comes to its programming...
Not sure what other people make of the fact that the play opened at the Royal Court rather than straight into the West End, but it seems to be another example of the fact that new plays will not open in the West End cold unless they have a superstar like Nicole Kidman in them.
The National passed on producing Hangmen? Fascinating, if true. Who took that artistically and financially silly decision, I wonder?
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Post by crowblack on May 12, 2017 8:36:54 GMT
Wanted a bit more from Paddy Considine, who I hoped might offer a little more on-stage threat and menace than he did That's one of the problems with the bagginess of the piece - that drumbeat of violence and his past was lost, I think (and if I was aware of it, especially during the Hunger Strikes, as a Liverpool junior schoolgirl, there's no way it wouldn't have been more present in that sprawling household, however much a character wanted to bury his past). Scenes that I wanted to see - like the priest arriving to speak to him - were taken off stage. On the Sonia Friedman thing, that explains a lot! This really didn't feel like a Royal Court play - it felt more like a Harry Potter-ish crowdpleaser, or a musical without the music, and obviously with its eyes on Broadway. I wonder if Considine will stay with it if it goes to the US? Maybe not, given that his role was not as central as I was hoping it to be.
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