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Post by oldstager on Aug 31, 2017 12:41:46 GMT
Considine's departure shouldn't have much impact on the box office. The author is a proven draw (JERUSALEM established him as that) and the universally rave reviews were responsible for the continued good business after the sellout Royal Court run. But, of course, after the now customary 13-16 weeks in a theatre with the Gielgud's capacity availability may improve from November onwards.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 12:41:57 GMT
Does anyone know what the norm is for situations like this? Is it likely that another big name star will be brought in, or will the role probably be picked up by a lesser known name? I'm thinking of going again later in the run, and wonder if the loss of Paddy Considine might see a drop in ticket sales, and the chance of some discounts... Depends what the parameters are for the recasting. Might be that there are plans to take it to Broadway (I'd have thought so) and so the person taking over might be being groomed for that too. I like Paddy Considine but felt that he lacked some of the charisma and danger that I would have liked. I would hope that whoever is cast is a slight improvement in that respect. While we have a short while to play fantasy casting I'm going to throw out a couple of early names out: Extravagant coups would be the returns to stage of big movie names like Michael Fassbender or Colin Farrell. Solid theatre actors who would probably be very good: Peter McDonald, Jonjo O'Neill or David Caves.
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Post by Marwood on Aug 31, 2017 13:00:22 GMT
I was considering going again on Paddys last day, but only decent stalls seats left were premium seats at £150, and I'm not THAT excited about seeing him one last time to pay that much...
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Post by Snciole on Aug 31, 2017 13:25:38 GMT
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Post by Jon on Aug 31, 2017 13:29:48 GMT
The run finishes in January so I imagine they could in theory get a name to do the final three months.
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Post by wickedgrin on Aug 31, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
I wouldn't have thought the play needed a star name. I thought the play was very much an ensemble piece and with such good reviews and word of mouth it would extend anyway.
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Post by Jon on Aug 31, 2017 14:07:55 GMT
I did wonder if they will treat this as a test to see if it is re-castable and worth extending past then. It depends if something is already lined for the Gielgud past January.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 14:43:57 GMT
Once they announce who it is, let's all come back and discuss if their status means the run is likely to extend, or finish in January as planned. I reckon a bigger name will mean a shuttering, but a less-famous theatre stalwart will mean they're seeing if the play will sell itself with a view to extend. (I might buy a ticket for the Christmas period now, just in case it's someone properly smashing.)
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Post by viserys on Aug 31, 2017 14:52:04 GMT
Extravagant coups would be the returns to stage of big movie names like Michael Fassbender or Colin Farrell. Solid theatre actors who would probably be very good: Peter McDonald, Jonjo O'Neill or David Caves. If they cast Fassy, I'm gonna buy a season ticket.
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Post by jadnoop on Aug 31, 2017 15:54:42 GMT
I wonder how much motivation there is for a big name star to take on this role immediately after Paddy Considine.
Quinn Carney is a great role, and there are actors with more star-power who may well give a better performance than Paddy Considine. However, given how unanimous the critical praise has been for the play, anyone stepping in now can surely only see the reviews go down. As an audience member I tend to take the star ratings with a pinch of salt. However, I can imagine for the creative team -both in terms of their egos and their perceived 'value' in the industry- there might be a worry that updated reviews might reappraise The Ferryman, and by implication themselves, as four stars. It would be different if the play was transferring to the US, or if this was a revival.
Putting that aside someone like Michael Fassbender taking on the role would be fantastic, but would surely make finding tickets impossible. For someone in that scale of superstar, my vote would be for Cillian Murphy.
Of course, to some extent, the issue is somewhat moot; the standout turn when I saw it was probably Laura Donnelly, so if she's staying on (and has good chemistry with Considine's replacement), I'll be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 16:41:54 GMT
This could be a perfect opportunity for a renowned name with no previous professional stage experience who wants to tread the boards with minimal risk though. It's already a five star production, and if Sonia F decided to hold a third press night for the cast change, I'd be VERY surprised if the critics said no, so you can still get the extra publicity.
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Post by bordeaux on Aug 31, 2017 17:32:49 GMT
Is Mark Rylance available? He does a brilliant Ulster accent, as those who saw his Benedick 20 years ago can attest.
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Post by rumbledoll on Aug 31, 2017 18:28:57 GMT
Shame... was aiming to see this in November and heard a lot of praise Paddy's way.. But if it's going to be either McDonald or O'Neill, I'm so up for it!
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Post by Rory on Sept 1, 2017 12:17:27 GMT
William Houston will play Quinn Carney. Sarah Greene takes over from Laura Donnelly and Maureen Beattie takes over from Brid Brennan. There are some other changes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 12:23:59 GMT
William Houston will play Quinn Carney. Sarah Greene takes over from Laura Donnelly and Maureen Beattie takes over from Brid Brennan. There are some other changes. What?? I'd heard Mandy Patinkin was taking over. Don't tell me he's pulled out of another show? Great news about Sarah Greene. I always loved her on 'Going Live'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 13:21:37 GMT
Well he's certainly got the ferocity for it, but I don't know about if he'd be my choice for the first three hours of the play.
I'm putting 50p in the pool for post-January extension then, assuming sales don't drop off around Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 13:23:06 GMT
Great news about Sarah Greene. I always loved her on 'Going Live'. And Maureen, ever treasured in Driving School, the first reality docu-soap-lite.
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Post by Jon on Sept 1, 2017 16:49:27 GMT
Well he's certainly got the ferocity for it, but I don't know about if he'd be my choice for the first three hours of the play. I'm putting 50p in the pool for post-January extension then, assuming sales don't drop off around Christmas. The fact they didn't extend the booking period with this cast announcement makes me think they'll probably close in January
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Post by wickedgrin on Sept 1, 2017 17:22:45 GMT
I'd be amazed if this did not extend. Clearly an expensive play to run but at the moment it is selling out without discounting - highly unusual for a play without a "star" name.
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Post by popcultureboy on Sept 1, 2017 19:55:41 GMT
I'd be amazed if this did not extend. Clearly an expensive play to run but at the moment it is selling out without discounting - highly unusual for a play without a "star" name. I am pretty sure Marianne Elliott has the Gielgud booked for her season after Ferryman closes. She wanted it for all her shows, but Heisenberg ended up at the Wyndhams after Ferryman extended. The fact that Long Day's Journey has booked in after Heisenberg makes me think Ferryman will close on schedule, or do a very small extension. Unless they've placated Elliott by offering her the Noel Coward after Labour of Love ends, though they might be thinking of extending now with losing two weeks of the run today. Who knows?
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Post by Marwood on Sept 24, 2017 23:35:49 GMT
Glad to see you enjoyed seeing this theatrewithtom - this is still the best thing I've seen at the theatre this year, would like to see it again before Paddy goes but I'm not in a rush to pay the prices they're asking, I fear they're killing the goose that laid the golden egg expecting people to pay these prices once he's gone.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Sept 25, 2017 21:33:20 GMT
I saw the matinee on Saturday and really enjoyed it. It's like a British "Agusut Osage County" with its big family as protagonists, inner conflicts, big cast for today's standards and long running time. I read it a few months ago and I'm glad I did: those Irish accents are thick! It's a bit different from what I imagined reading it - the banshees of the final scene were less literal than I expected - but in the best of all the possible ways. I don't get all the fuss on Paddy Considine, he was fine in a fine cast, but hardly outstanding. The acting honors for me go to Bríd Brennan and Dearbhla Molloy, both great and unique in their very different roles. And it's always a joy to see my future husband Fra Fee on stage. Special mention to Genevieve O'Reilly in the non-showy role of Mary, she brought a lot of heart to the part. Very good John Hodgkinson, but really the whole cast is great, including the baby, the rabbit and - especially - the goose. Very well staged and directed, loved the set, the costumes, the music and the dancing. I'll try to catch it with the new cast, but it won't be the same without Bríd
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Post by talkstageytome on Sept 30, 2017 22:03:43 GMT
I saw The Ferryman this afternoon. At first when it ended I couldn't help but feel a bit meh about it. There were moments of genius throughout, and the ending was explosive, but it felt so long and drawn out, and I wasn't sure it lived up to the hype. However... I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Everything - the character, events, emotions, felt so utterly real. I want a part two - I need to know what happens next. After a few hours of contemplation I totally recognise this play's genius. The casting for me was spot on, with Paddy Considine (who I've been a fan of for literally years (having seen Rafe Spall earlier in the year in Hedda Gabler, I can now say I've seen both of Hot Fuzz's Andys... brilliant! ) was really likable as the Carney patriarch, whilst Laura Donnelly was excellent as the steadfast Caitlin. All of the lads playing the Carney and Corcoran boys were great as well and their long scene at the top of act 3 was a highlight for me. I think I need to buy the text and read it again knowing how it ends. Really enjoyed this though, and so glad I got to see it with the original cast. It'll be interesting to hear how the new cast do when they start.
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Post by lynette on Oct 5, 2017 22:50:12 GMT
Ok, ok, so nice touch of the Conor McPherson's in the title there. What is it about Irish plays, no I mean plays that purport to be about Ireland, Eire, Northern Ireland...? The blarney, the dancing, the thing with little animals.. I can see you loved them, icouldleaveyou, but I could have done without the baby, the goose, the rabbits, the first half an hour. It was all so well researched wasn’t it? All the nasty details about the Troubles and I did feel as if I was being preached at. And some clunky dialogue - am I wrong but I don’t think people walk into a room and say 'I have to speak to ...on her own now' do they? And the staging a bit tricky: the chair on the extreme right seemed out of place and people kept sitting in it! But having felt a bit 'meh' as did t above, I do think there was some seriously good stuff here- the pure Republicanism of the old aunt which had deteriorated into gangsterism, and she couldn’t see it so thought it was an honour to shakes Muldoon's hand, the chat between the lads which was funny and edgey, the tension between the old ways and the new. All that. And the ending was well earned, the farmer who had forsaken his past was actually a trained killer, fast and ruthless. The past could not be erased. At times I felt that I was being told that the Troubles were all a result of dysfunctional families but getting past that I think this play does have a contemporary resonance in the way it showed how young men can be turned into callous gang members and ultimately violent thugs or worse.
They will love it in New York. They like long, Irish and a bit of dancing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 0:04:13 GMT
Hopefully it will get the tony
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