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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 10:37:55 GMT
Surely The Sun isn't read for actual news? (It drives me insane that even BBC website, the broadsheets and their websites report TV programmes as if they were news. If I wanted to know what was happening on Bake Off I'd watch it. Lazy journalism and free advertizing- it's a cozy arrangement but it just makes the news dumber) 'Celebrity News', that famous oxymoron. I pity anyone who thinks that what famous people get up to in their spare time is in any way interesting or worthy of comment.
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Post by d'James on Apr 30, 2016 10:43:54 GMT
Surely The Sun isn't read for actual news? (It drives me insane that even BBC website, the broadsheets and their websites report TV programmes as if they were news. If I wanted to know what was happening on Bake Off I'd watch it. Lazy journalism and free advertizing- it's a cozy arrangement but it just makes the news dumber) Sadly a lot of people do read it for the news and believe everything they say.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 10:57:26 GMT
It's a shame because i honestly don't think the that these rumours are true and it just gives the show a bad name for nothing. Sheridan is a professional so don't listen to the rumours
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 30, 2016 11:21:37 GMT
Surely The Sun isn't read for actual news? (It drives me insane that even BBC website, the broadsheets and their websites report TV programmes as if they were news. If I wanted to know what was happening on Bake Off I'd watch it. Lazy journalism and free advertizing- it's a cozy arrangement but it just makes the news dumber) 'Celebrity News', that famous oxymoron. I pity anyone who thinks that what famous people get up to in their spare time is in any way interesting or worthy of comment. Except that many famous people push what they're doing in their spare time into the media, or out on Twitter so it's understandable that people respond accordingly. And Sheridan is a bit of a one for that, isn't she?
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Post by emilyrose on Apr 30, 2016 15:08:34 GMT
I'm going to see FG in June and cannot wait, I'm in the dress, hope for a good view, would prefer front row, but people say the bar is bad, went for the front row of the second tier instead and hope it's good. I also wanted to see what sort of area I want to get for Dreamgirls too.
What happened on Thursday didn't seem so great, quite a few tweets and obviously the post on here seemed to say there was some slurring and strange behaviour, obviously people can see for themselves what is happening and if it fits in with a performance too.
I hope the run continues to be smooth and successful though, the reviews coming out seem so amazing, it's just making me will on June to get here soon!
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Post by basdfg on Apr 30, 2016 15:13:57 GMT
Decesions. Deceisions. Day seat or book seat in the Upper circle?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 16:43:31 GMT
'Celebrity News', that famous oxymoron. I pity anyone who thinks that what famous people get up to in their spare time is in any way interesting or worthy of comment. Except that many famous people push what they're doing in their spare time into the media, or out on Twitter so it's understandable that people respond accordingly. And Sheridan is a bit of a one for that, isn't she? The only thing i can recall hearing about her is that she was once engaged to James Corden (or was that someone else?), I'm just not interested in that sort of thing. She seems to see her fans as friends, which is admirable I suppose, rather than customers. I imagine it brightens some of her follower's lives. Unfortunately the press push themselves into the conversation. It's Also getting uncomfortably close to the view of young women whereby anything they wear, say or do is criticised on the grounds of them 'asking for it' by doing so.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 30, 2016 20:02:05 GMT
Two things don't quite add up:
1 - For the story to be false, people on Twitter would have to be making up their stories about seeing behaviour that appeared to indicate drunkardness - and I can see no reason for people to manufacture that sort of detail.
2 - Why haven't the producers or theatre-management provided full details of the 'technical' issues? That would have nipped this in the bud very rapidly.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 30, 2016 20:10:10 GMT
Two things don't quite add up: 1 - For the story to be false, people on Twitter would have to be making up their stories about seeing behaviour that appeared to indicate drunkardness - and I can see no reason for people to manufacture that sort of detail. 2 - Why haven't the producers or theatre-management provided full details of the 'technical' issues? That would have nipped this in the bud very rapidly. Well, if the accusations are true they're never going to admit it. And if they lie about fictitious technical issues they just lay themselves open to more and more probing questions. It's really best to just leave it. Was surprised to hear the rumour on the radio news earlier. Her management must be mortified. It's very very bad press for her.
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Post by kathryn on Apr 30, 2016 20:34:48 GMT
If the problem was with Sheridan, why wouldn't the understudy continue the performance? It doesn't make sense to halt the entire show for one person, not when they have to refund/exchange.
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Post by Seriously on Apr 30, 2016 20:43:32 GMT
I think I was were Sheridan, and all the press were saying I was drunk, I'd rather hope the producers would say more than the rather vague "technical issues".
If my career was being trampled on by the press I'd hope they'd come to my defence with more exact details.
Sadly, they haven't.... which speaks volumes!
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Post by d'James on Apr 30, 2016 20:45:04 GMT
Two things don't quite add up: 1 - For the story to be false, people on Twitter would have to be making up their stories about seeing behaviour that appeared to indicate drunkardness - and I can see no reason for people to manufacture that sort of detail. 2 - Why haven't the producers or theatre-management provided full details of the 'technical' issues? That would have nipped this in the bud very rapidly. Exactly. Several people commented on it as soon as the unexpected break began. Only later did the since-deleted tweet appear. It does seem odd that only one performance has attracted such tweets. They were asking if it was an acting choice, why have people at other performances not asked that? As for putting the understudy on. Who knows? Maybe they thought by saying technical issues and cancelling the whole thing, no one would've noticed and they would've got away with it. If they put the understudy on they would've drawn more attention to Sheridan's performance pre-stoppage.
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Post by kathryn on Apr 30, 2016 20:57:11 GMT
Don't be daft. Nothing draws more attention than having to cancel mid-performance. An understudy having to go on due to the indisposition of Sheridan wouldn't draw more attention and would cost a lot less.
Indisposition would also provide a much better excuse for her, if there was a problem with her, than technical difficulties.
People are pretty rubbish at interpreting behaviour, and very good at jumping to conclusions. Normally the performance isn't stopped after 15 minutes, which is the young Fanny bit, so people don't start tweeting until the interval, by which time they are used to the accent and the performance has progressed.
I imagine the producers and Sheridan are taking legal advice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 20:57:57 GMT
Perhaps she was having her double chins smoothed out
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 21:46:24 GMT
Perhaps she was having her double chins smoothed out Speculating is bad enough. But personal insults are just plain rude.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 21:57:46 GMT
Two things don't quite add up: 1 - For the story to be false, people on Twitter would have to be making up their stories about seeing behaviour that appeared to indicate drunkardness - and I can see no reason for people to manufacture that sort of detail. 2 - Why haven't the producers or theatre-management provided full details of the 'technical' issues? That would have nipped this in the bud very rapidly. Exactly. Several people commented on it as soon as the unexpected break began. Only later did the since-deleted tweet appear. It does seem odd that only one performance has attracted such tweets. They were asking if it was an acting choice, why have people at other performances not asked that? As for putting the understudy on. Who knows? Maybe they thought by saying technical issues and cancelling the whole thing, no one would've noticed and they would've got away with it. If they put the understudy on they would've drawn more attention to Sheridan's performance pre-stoppage. Well that's a simple one to answer, because it was the only performance where the audience only saw the start of the character arc. Everyone else only commented after seeing the transfomation throughout the first act. EDIT: should have read ahead, as Kathryn said the same. if a performer was unable to perform then the understudy would have gone on, you don't turf an audience in situ out if at all avoidable.
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Post by d'James on Apr 30, 2016 22:12:38 GMT
But this is after the Menier debacle. They know a lot of the audience were there to see her and after the flack the producers got then, they may have wanted to avoid a similar situation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 22:27:16 GMT
But this is after the Menier debacle. They know a lot of the audience were there to see her and after the flack the producers got then, they may have wanted to avoid a similar situation. Barnes got good audience reviews and ENO had just done the same with Close. Now they have to compensate all the audience as opposed to the portion that might have left if seeing an understudy.
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Post by d'James on Apr 30, 2016 22:31:58 GMT
I know. I'm not saying I'm right, just putting alternatives out there. I do think an audience would be even more annoyed if the star they came to see pulled out mid performance, rather than knowing from the start they'd have someone else.
The fact they offer refunds/exchanges is already better for the patrons than the Coliseum situation.
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Post by shady23 on Apr 30, 2016 23:10:18 GMT
At the end of the day, sheridan fans are the new kerry ellis fans. She could go on stage and shoot half the audience and they will still adore her. Sheridan likes the celebrity party lifestyle, and if you are into that scene then the press comes with it (good and the bad). Lots of other well respected and famous actors don't get the tabloid treatment because they don't crave the attention People get the tabloid treatment whether they crave it or not, although lazy journalists now trawl through twitter and the Internet now rather than going out and looking for real stories. I saw Funny Girl tonight and Sheridan wad incredible. She is a real talent and plays the role perfectly.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 1, 2016 0:10:42 GMT
Perhaps she was having her double chins smoothed out That's unnecessary, not to mention being irrelevant to the discussion and more than a bit nasty. Well done Parsley, you got the triple.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 5:27:19 GMT
I know. I'm not saying I'm right, just putting alternatives out there. I do think an audience would be even more annoyed if the star they came to see pulled out mid performance, rather than knowing from the start they'd have someone else. In my experience audiences often love it when someone has to take over mid-show. There's the disappointment of breaking the suspension of disbelief by being unexpectedly dropped into reality for a while, but there's also the appreciation that it's not easy to switch roles with no notice and there's the whole the-show-must-go-on feeling of being there for something special that other audiences won't have experienced. People are there for live theatre, and it doesn't get more live than something going wrong and someone stepping in to fix it. In contrast, having the show cancelled a short way in means the audience is left with a wasted journey and an empty evening. I doubt anyone's going to be hanging around twiddling their thumbs and saying "Well, this may be boring as hell but at least we're not watching a show where someone in the cast had to be replaced part way through. That would be the worst."
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Post by jaqs on May 1, 2016 6:20:37 GMT
I'd be super annoyed if I'd spent £50 on the train for hardly any show and it being too late to go to something else.
When the revolve broke at Joseph a few years ago the cast stood at the front of the stage and sang the show. The audience didn't get exactly what they came for but they got a good story.
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Post by ali973 on May 1, 2016 9:14:44 GMT
Set problems hardly stop shows. The revolve occasionally breaks at Les Miz, and the cherry picker does malfunction at Wicked. And these are very vital technical mechanics that have a huge impact on the shows story telling. Elphaba needs to fly, and the revolve at Les Miz helps the transition of scenes. And yet both shows have clear contingency plans for these malfunctions.
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Post by steve10086 on May 1, 2016 9:42:13 GMT
I'd be super annoyed if I'd spent £50 on the train for hardly any show and it being too late to go to something else. When the revolve broke at Joseph a few years ago the cast stood at the front of the stage and sang the show. The audience didn't get exactly what they came for but they got a good story. Do you mean Joseph at the Adelphi, very early in the run? Because the night that happened, the audience got Act II as a "concert" but also got their tickets refunded or exchanged.
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