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Post by loureviews on Jul 11, 2017 13:03:54 GMT
Do we think we'll get a CD cast recording of this production? Have most of the NT musicals received cast albums…? I hope so! I have ALNM and South Pacific from back in the day and I think Carousel got one too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 13:09:35 GMT
Yeah well I have Guys and Dolls, Carousel, Oklahoma!, My Fair Lady, South Pacific, Anything Goes… there are many more I'm sure, so hopefully they record Follies!
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Post by Deal J on Jul 12, 2017 22:21:38 GMT
How about some product placement for cash like they have on the TV? Suggestions? 🎶 You're gonna love To-ble-rone 🎶
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 12, 2017 22:24:34 GMT
New dates released apparently.
I'm so damaged by my first ever booking experience with the NT that I'm tempted to suggest they stick their new dates up their arse.
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Post by orchestrator on Jul 12, 2017 23:31:07 GMT
How about some product placement for cash like they have on the TV? Suggestions? 🎶 You're gonna love To-ble-rone 🎶 Hats off, here they come those: Uber-filled girls.
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Post by nash16 on Jul 13, 2017 0:32:02 GMT
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jul 13, 2017 5:32:29 GMT
I still can't believe they wasted the opportunity to cast Haydn Gwynne as Phyllis
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Post by loureviews on Jul 13, 2017 15:45:08 GMT
Not good at all if they can't afford to stage it. Wonder what's going on?
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Post by SageStageMgr on Jul 13, 2017 15:56:19 GMT
Minimum £10 "donation"!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 16:15:47 GMT
Wasnt this funding issue mentioned a while back?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 16:51:18 GMT
I'm sure it was, this is definitely not new news. I couldn't be bothered going back through the thread to check though.
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Post by theatre-turtle on Jul 13, 2017 17:57:49 GMT
Could the shortfall be partly because of lower than expected receipts from Common, Salome and Ugly Lies The Bone etc etc?
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Post by theatremadness on Jul 13, 2017 18:05:23 GMT
Not sure, but I don't think so - I'm pretty sure this donation thing for Follies has been a thing even a while before those opened, it's definitely news but not "new" news. I don't particularly think they're in trouble, I think it's that Follies is an incredibly ambitious undertaking for the National, with it being one of the biggest productions they've ever done (actual words from the NT website: "The production is set to be one of our biggest; a cast of 37, 21 live musicians, huge choreographed numbers and over 200 staff and apprentices working to create this spectacular production. Creating a musical of this magnitude is a significant undertaking and your support is crucial to ensure the play is successfully brought to the stage. We would love you to help us make this happen.") and especially with it being a musical, costs are bound to be higher than the National would probably be normally used to. I don't think it means that they're moments away from cancelling the show and shutting down the theatre, but that if anyone is able to donate, as I'm sure a sizable chunk of the National Theatre demographic are more than willing and able to do, then they'd gratefully receive it. They're being quite transparent and definitely not trying to hide it, so I'd say nothing to worry about.....just yet.
EDIT: Just checked, and it seems the first mention of asking for donations was middle of April, so around 3 months ago.
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Post by showgirl on Jul 13, 2017 18:46:49 GMT
Were I to donate any more money to the NT this year, I'd want it ring-fenced for fixing their online booking system. But I'd still prefer any support I could afford to go to a smaller venue where it would have greater impact.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 8:10:43 GMT
If you see La Staunton wearing a feathered headdress the size of a small principality in 'Follies'. I paid for that. And you're welcome. Seriously though, if I donated more to the Nash I'd want it spent on someone walking around the Kitchen tables in the foyer kicking out every single person who is just taking up a table to use the free wifi or to hog seats with their coats and bags and a bottle of water that THEY DIDN'T EVEN BUY AT THE NASH!
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Post by richleeds on Jul 14, 2017 8:20:55 GMT
I was at the National on Wednesday to see Angels and popped to the high level walkway from the Dorfman. The Follies set is currently being built in the workshop if anyone wants to go have a sneak preview. Looks like it will be a big production.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 9:54:34 GMT
This looks awful already… Yes, I'm judging a 2 and a half hour NT Sondheim revival solely on a 30 second behind-the-scenes-of-a-photo-shoot video.
They obviously told Imelda to just wear her 2005 Oscar gown and hairdo.
Already, I can spy what appears to be a major physical age difference between Janie and Imelda. Definitely should've been Haydn Gwynne instead of Dee, or two younger ladies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 10:11:24 GMT
Already, I can spy what appears to be a major physical age difference between Janie and Imelda. Definitely should've been Haydn Gwynne instead of Dee, or two younger ladies. They're only 6 years apart though, Janie is 55 and Imelda is 61. I don't think they look that much different in age.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 10:16:33 GMT
Never mind that, look how handsome Philip Quast looks!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 10:24:31 GMT
This looks awful already… Yes, I'm judging a 2 and a half hour NT Sondheim revival solely on a 30 second behind-the-scenes-of-a-photo-shoot video. They obviously told Imelda to just wear her 2005 Oscar gown and hairdo. Already, I can spy what appears to be a major physical age difference between Janie and Imelda. Definitely should've been Haydn Gwynne instead of Dee, or two younger ladies. Just think about why Phyllis should read younger, her lifestyle and her public face, she even states that she doesn"t want to get old and chases younger men. This looks like perfect casting based on the actual text. Sally being frumpier, having lost the sleekness that she would have had is exactly right, too. Follies, in the end, is a show about the ravages of time. Not glitz and glamour, not surviving (despite Carlotta's overemphatic insistence), just the way that what could be gives way to what is. Set in Nixonian America, the cracks in the edifice are both political and personal. The original London production fell into the glitz trap, so I am hoping we get something a bit darker this time. Lyn Gardner praised the last NY revival (Warchus?) for being 'bleak and spectral', which is what it should be, yet Broadway cognoscenti didn't appear to want that, they wanted the comfort of lots of old stars being trotted out amidst fabulous set and costumes (paraphrasing, but not inaccurate).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 11:35:14 GMT
Thanks for that thesis on Follies. Just give me a moment while I grade it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 12:08:28 GMT
Thanks for that thesis on Follies. Just give me a moment while I grade it. Well your reply fails on all counts! This is a thread about the show and, at the moment, it hasn't opened yet, so what we expect from this production is fair game. Do you disagree that it is about time? Do you think it should be glitzy? There's an interesting conversation to be had. Through the non committal snark I sense you disagree in some part. I'm interested to know.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Jul 14, 2017 16:57:59 GMT
Thanks for that thesis on Follies. Just give me a moment while I grade it. How needlessly sarcastic.
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Post by crabtree on Jul 14, 2017 17:05:32 GMT
I too am all for the darkness of Follies - there's a clue in the title. The actual Follies numbers have to be so painfully ironic and cruel, now we know the characters' history, whilst at the same time being a tribute / homage to the Follies themselves. It is a very dark, tragic, painful piece.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 17:12:36 GMT
I too am all for the darkness of Follies - there's a clue in the title. The actual Follies numbers have to be so painfully ironic and cruel, now we know the characters' history, whilst at the same time being a tribute / homage to the Follies themselves. It is a very dark, tragic, painful piece. Apparently Sondheim privately called the Cam Mack production 'Hello, Follies'. Ouch.... * reported by the nasty piece of work that is Mark Steyn but it rings true and he wasn't rebutted.
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