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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 22:57:13 GMT
You don’t need a public audience for a premiere - a premiere is about letting the people who worked on your movie see the final version and to get celebs to attend for press. As cinemas are reopening, I think the red carpets and premieres will continue, but in an adjusted way that doesn’t encourage spectators. As for travelling and doing promo, I don’t see a problem. Studios will probably just buy the full first class or just use a private jet - there’s too much money involved for them not to really promote. But wouldn't the press junkets be able to be done via Zoom/Satellite rather than cart an A Lister halfway around the world to have a lod of journalists wheeled in to talk to them? In theory of course, but that isn’t really going to work in the long run - we’ve already god Boris telling us to get back to work, so governments are going to presumably want TV shows to stop relying on technology to do interviews n stuff, and if I’m honest - I’m over the whole ‘look at me on my laptop’ thing. Studios are going to want their stars to start promoting in person too - if it’s safe enough for the movie star to travel, maybe it’s safe enough to go see the movie... that kinda thing. Premieres are appearances are mostly about visuals and headlines to promote a release - I don’t know how much interest their is in a screenshot of an actor promoting via zoom. Who knows. Most actors are based in LA anyway so we will probably see a load of stuff on Ellen, The Late Show, The Late Late Show etc. To be honest if we don’t find a way out of this mess I don’t even know what the future of TV and film is really. It’s okay to say you’ll use camera trickery but that doesn’t work a lot of the time - shows like Call The Midwife (which hasn’t even shot their Xmas special yet, let alone the new series due to start January) need to... get in there, so to speak. So for a lot of people promo is probably the least of their worries. Except for Graham Norton, who needs the guests. |
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Post by dippy on Jul 12, 2020 23:29:42 GMT
a premiere is about letting the people who worked on your movie see the final version Premieres definitely aren't for letting people who worked on it see it, that would be crew screenings, usually early (10am) on a Sunday morning typically the weekend before or after (depending on the secrecy of the film) it's released. Of course some crew do get to go to premieres but I don't think it's many, most likely heads of departments but I don't really know. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 0:46:19 GMT
a premiere is about letting the people who worked on your movie see the final version Premieres definitely aren't for letting people who worked on it see it, that would be crew screenings, usually early (10am) on a Sunday morning typically the weekend before or after (depending on the secrecy of the film) it's released. Of course some crew do get to go to premieres but I don't think it's many, most likely heads of departments but I don't really know. Well I didn’t mean everyone, that would be silly considering the amount involved, and it depends which premiere it is in the cycle - many movies use people based all over the world nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 2:16:31 GMT
I don’t think stage door will happen at Sleepless. If they’re not allowing it on the Six tour to protect the cast, then surely that should be the same for Sleepless which is being put on at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 10:18:51 GMT
But wouldn't the press junkets be able to be done via Zoom/Satellite rather than cart an A Lister halfway around the world to have a lod of journalists wheeled in to talk to them? In theory of course, but that isn’t really going to work in the long run - we’ve already god Boris telling us to get back to work, so governments are going to presumably want TV shows to stop relying on technology to do interviews n stuff, and if I’m honest - I’m over the whole ‘look at me on my laptop’ thing. Studios are going to want their stars to start promoting in person too - if it’s safe enough for the movie star to travel, maybe it’s safe enough to go see the movie... that kinda thing. Premieres are appearances are mostly about visuals and headlines to promote a release - I don’t know how much interest their is in a screenshot of an actor promoting via zoom. Who knows. Most actors are based in LA anyway so we will probably see a load of stuff on Ellen, The Late Show, The Late Late Show etc. To be honest if we don’t find a way out of this mess I don’t even know what the future of TV and film is really. It’s okay to say you’ll use camera trickery but that doesn’t work a lot of the time - shows like Call The Midwife (which hasn’t even shot their Xmas special yet, let alone the new series due to start January) need to... get in there, so to speak. So for a lot of people promo is probably the least of their worries. Except for Graham Norton, who needs the guests. On things like The Graham Norton Show you can get around it by just having guests on one at a time or booking "more substantial guests" who you could chat to for 40 minutes like Parkinson would do on occasion. You then have the issue of older stars in the studio but if the likes of Sir Ian are prepared to go back on stage get people of his standing with the stories to effectively be a solo guest. Book performer or band to do a number or two. Maybe have a link up interview with a US guest and you've got your show. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 10:25:56 GMT
I don’t think stage door will happen at Sleepless. If they’re not allowing it on the Six tour to protect the cast, then surely that should be the same for Sleepless which is being put on at the same time. They cannot stop people gathering at an SD but if they put barriers up or performers leave different ways or there are notices up "People will not stop/engage with fans so please don't ask" etc. It can effectively kill it dead.
I have no idea what the outside layout of the Troubadour Theatre is as regards exit points. The Six Drive Ins are at Arenas/Farms/Concert Venues so there would be cordoned off exit points. Plus if the ladies are effectively on tour I'd figure they may form a "Social Bubble" and might be driven to the venues and hotels in a tour bus/van. You'd not get the girls rocking up one by one. They would likely need to drive/be driven there to reach some venues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 11:03:54 GMT
I don’t think stage door will happen at Sleepless. If they’re not allowing it on the Six tour to protect the cast, then surely that should be the same for Sleepless which is being put on at the same time. They cannot stop people gathering at an SD but if they put barriers up or performers leave different ways or there are notices up "People will not stop/engage with fans so please don't ask" etc. It can effectively kill it dead.
I have no idea what the outside layout of the Troubadour Theatre is as regards exit points. The Six Drive Ins are at Arenas/Farms/Concert Venues so there would be cordoned off exit points. Plus if the ladies are effectively on tour I'd figure they may form a "Social Bubble" and might be driven to the venues and hotels in a tour bus/van. You'd not get the girls rocking up one by one. They would likely need to drive/be driven there to reach some venues.
I was on a Zoom Q&A with one of the Six cast yesterday and she said they will be hiring a tour bus that will take them between cities and they’ll have to stay together in their apartments in each city |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 13:12:18 GMT
Literally one of the best things that could come out of corona would be an end to stage dooring. And I hope, by extrapolation, a reduction in the more extremes of ‘fan’ behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 14:54:41 GMT
Literally one of the best things that could come out of corona would be an end to stage dooring. And I hope, by extrapolation, a reduction in the more extremes of ‘fan’ behaviour. I wonder how many "Autograph Dealers" have gone out of business. I know a coupe of guys who deal in Memorabilia and this includes some autographs. They actually furloughed themselves or claimed under self employment help available. One had bought up a lot of memorabilia that people were selling as they needed the money in Lockdown.
In person autographing is dead at the moment and Through the Mail stuff would be as Artist Agencies have likely furloughed staff or they are WFH.
I'd imagine that performers who sell signed photos have been looking to push that line of their business. If conventions are cancelled then the postal demand would be greater.
Also I could see dealers looking to transactions with performers by offering them a certain amount to sign a set number of photos. If stars don't have websites I could imagine a far few doing this. They effectively use a middle man and everyone profits.
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Post by eliza on Jul 14, 2020 21:08:08 GMT
Literally one of the best things that could come out of corona would be an end to stage dooring. And I hope, by extrapolation, a reduction in the more extremes of ‘fan’ behaviour. I wonder how many "Autograph Dealers" have gone out of business. I know a coupe of guys who deal in Memorabilia and this includes some autographs. They actually furloughed themselves or claimed under self employment help available. One had bought up a lot of memorabilia that people were selling as they needed the money in Lockdown.
In person autographing is dead at the moment and Through the Mail stuff would be as Artist Agencies have likely furloughed staff or they are WFH.
I'd imagine that performers who sell signed photos have been looking to push that line of their business. If conventions are cancelled then the postal demand would be greater.
Also I could see dealers looking to transactions with performers by offering them a certain amount to sign a set number of photos. If stars don't have websites I could imagine a far few doing this. They effectively use a middle man and everyone profits.
This will sound silly but do people make a full time living out of the autograph thing? I always assumed it was just a side hustle, like when my dad was convinced he was going to discover the next Harry Potter so filled our house with boxes of random kids books to sell on eBay in 10 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 21:17:03 GMT
I wonder how many "Autograph Dealers" have gone out of business. I know a coupe of guys who deal in Memorabilia and this includes some autographs. They actually furloughed themselves or claimed under self employment help available. One had bought up a lot of memorabilia that people were selling as they needed the money in Lockdown.
In person autographing is dead at the moment and Through the Mail stuff would be as Artist Agencies have likely furloughed staff or they are WFH.
I'd imagine that performers who sell signed photos have been looking to push that line of their business. If conventions are cancelled then the postal demand would be greater.
Also I could see dealers looking to transactions with performers by offering them a certain amount to sign a set number of photos. If stars don't have websites I could imagine a far few doing this. They effectively use a middle man and everyone profits.
This will sound silly but do people make a full time living out of the autograph thing? I always assumed it was just a side hustle, like when my dad was convinced he was going to discover the next Harry Potter so filled our house with boxes of random kids books to sell on eBay in 10 years. A lot of people do and are registered as a Company and run it as such. I've actually been to shows with a couple of guys who do this. They were going mainly as fans but at the pre-show meal they kept all the receipts as there were some things they could put down to expenses. Others will do it as a sideline and not pay the taxes/vat etc. But they tend to be lower key and will only sell online. Then you have people who are mostly fans and collectors who sell an add item or spares on E-Bay if they cannot find a swap with another collector. |
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Post by eliza on Jul 14, 2020 21:29:39 GMT
This will sound silly but do people make a full time living out of the autograph thing? I always assumed it was just a side hustle, like when my dad was convinced he was going to discover the next Harry Potter so filled our house with boxes of random kids books to sell on eBay in 10 years. A lot of people do and are registered as a Company and run it as such. I've actually been to shows with a couple of guys who do this. They were going mainly as fans but at the pre-show meal they kept all the receipts as there were some things they could put down to expenses. Others will do it as a sideline and not pay the taxes/vat etc. But they tend to be lower key and will only sell online. Then you have people who are mostly fans and collectors who sell an add item or spares on E-Bay if they cannot find a swap with another collector. I feel bad for being a bit dismissive about it above, I honestly didn't think there would be enough money in that for a full time gig! I suppose my main attraction for having an autograph would be as proof that I met them but I can see how perhaps the memorabilia side might bring in more. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 8:46:34 GMT
Sometimes I do sell on a programme or something on Depop but it isn’t really to profit from it, it’s usually just if I have a duplicate programme with that cast or whatever. I do like to keep my signed stuff for the memories so if there’s ever anything signed on my Depop it’s just purely because I’m trying to free up space.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 13:41:18 GMT
A lot of people do and are registered as a Company and run it as such. I've actually been to shows with a couple of guys who do this. They were going mainly as fans but at the pre-show meal they kept all the receipts as there were some things they could put down to expenses. Others will do it as a sideline and not pay the taxes/vat etc. But they tend to be lower key and will only sell online. Then you have people who are mostly fans and collectors who sell an add item or spares on E-Bay if they cannot find a swap with another collector. I feel bad for being a bit dismissive about it above, I honestly didn't think there would be enough money in that for a full time gig! I suppose my main attraction for having an autograph would be as proof that I met them but I can see how perhaps the memorabilia side might bring in more. There can be money to be made but it also includes buying up collections from sellers or specializing in a niche market. A couple of the guys I know specialize in sports stuff and do theatre stuff on the side. Like me they are Midlands based but a London based deal would have the theatres/TV studios/Radio stations/ all the openings/premieres plus sporting events to do. So they would in normal times have a lot on. Some will look to go after the A-Listers whilst others do quantity over quality. One guy I know did a lot of the Strictly stars when they were going to and from It Takes Two recordings and he sold a lot of stuff like signed photos of Anton for a fiver which people bought for Secret Santa type gifts. Sometimes I've heard that performers have liked an image and asked for a copy or one to be sent to them as they may not have seen it before. |
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Post by Kim_Bahorel on Jun 30, 2021 22:19:21 GMT
I know a lot of people here hate and I am not debating that. But I do love a bit of "stage dooring".
Saying that I follow the general musical facebook groups and I don't know why but a fair few posts crop up from time to time with people asking if they can still do that. As if everything has magically returned to normal. I personally wouldn't even go when I had a cold risk of spreading that around to performers let alone in current situation.
A lot of people have posted usually that they aren't allowed to at the moment. I just keep seeing these posts and think is common sense not a thing anymore.
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Post by marob on Jun 30, 2021 22:44:54 GMT
No, common sense is not at all common. Too many people think that the various safety rules are for other people and that they are somehow immune from spreading anything.
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Post by sph on Jun 30, 2021 22:58:42 GMT
I know a lot of shows are saying that there is strictly no stage-dooring currently, but it isn't stopping people from going and trying their luck.
It really does annoy me.
Theatres need to have strict rules in place so they can remain open, if customers don't follow the rules, theatres will be forced to close again. Whether you agree with the rules or not, just follow them so that people can keep their jobs. I'm sick of seeing people roll their eyes or snap at ushers because they've been told to wear their mask or social-distance in the toilet queue.
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Post by alexandrafromoxford on Jul 4, 2021 8:59:09 GMT
I used to really enjoy the stage door. Though I respect the times that we are in and its far too soon to do this right now.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 10, 2021 18:06:05 GMT
Can we just all agree that hanging about outside a stage door is totally not a good idea right now (if it ever was). And can we also take this opportunity to knock it on the head FOREVER?
If you want to interact with your idol, tweet them.
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Post by Jonnyboy on Aug 10, 2021 21:29:04 GMT
Can we just all agree that hanging about outside a stage door is totally not a good idea right now (if it ever was). And can we also take this opportunity to knock it on the head FOREVER? If you want to interact with your idol, tweet them. Can’t get a quick programme autograph or pic on Twitter! Agree not a good idea right now, of course. |
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Post by sfsusan on Aug 11, 2021 16:23:44 GMT
When Benedict Cumberbatch was doing Hamlet at the Barbican, he announced he wasn't doing the stage door. The night I went, there were people clustered around anyway, hoping. I was walking back to where I was staying, got just about to Beech Street and suddenly heard an immense roar of screaming and cheering behind me. He had obviously changed his mind about appearing.
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Post by andrew on Aug 12, 2021 12:08:00 GMT
Actually an outdoors, socially distant stage door is way safer than a full capacity, poorly ventilated auditorium, full of unmasked audience members eating and drinking. However, for shows with big fanbases like Heathers or Six, social distancing would be hard to monitor so it is easier to cancel the whole thing until things get better. But there have been quite a few performers quietly doing stage door for months now with no issues, so it looks like people have missed it and it will come back for sure eventually.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Aug 12, 2021 12:16:16 GMT
The current stage door ban in place at a lot of theatres is to protect the actors from the audience, not the audience from each other, though. Handing over of programmes, pens to sign with, or gifts, or people requesting hugs or unmasked photos all raises the risk of a cast member getting ill. And as we've all seen, that currently brings down an entire show. Stage doors are also unregulated from a covid check perspective. Audience members seeing the show might have tested negative to get in, but anyone can go to stage door without proving a thing. I don't doubt it'll be back, but for now it's really not wise.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 12, 2021 13:37:01 GMT
The current stage door ban in place at a lot of theatres is to protect the actors from the audience, not the audience from each other, though. Handing over of programmes, pens to sign with, or gifts, or people requesting hugs or unmasked photos all raises the risk of a cast member getting ill. And as we've all seen, that currently brings down an entire show. Stage doors are also unregulated from a covid check perspective. Audience members seeing the show might have tested negative to get in, but anyone can go to stage door without proving a thing. I don't doubt it'll be back, but for now it's really not wise. Stage door ban must be to protect everyone?? In my mind I am still thinking it was a decision with everyone's safety in mind |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Aug 12, 2021 13:42:32 GMT
The current stage door ban in place at a lot of theatres is to protect the actors from the audience, not the audience from each other, though. Handing over of programmes, pens to sign with, or gifts, or people requesting hugs or unmasked photos all raises the risk of a cast member getting ill. And as we've all seen, that currently brings down an entire show. Stage doors are also unregulated from a covid check perspective. Audience members seeing the show might have tested negative to get in, but anyone can go to stage door without proving a thing. I don't doubt it'll be back, but for now it's really not wise. Stage door ban must be to protect everyone?? In my mind I am still thinking it was a decision with everyone's safety in mind The audience are sitting right next to each other inside, queueing in small spaces to get to the bar, etc. If someone in the audience is going to catch covid from someone else there, it won't be at stage door. But the actors and crew are tested far more strictly, and don't come into contact with the audience (FoH do, but right now they don't come into contact with the actors in most venues), so yeah I'd say the stage door ban is to protect them from the audience, rather than anything else. (To be clear: I'm not arguing with the ban at all. I completely agree with it.) |
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