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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 9:40:29 GMT
If you still update that list TM, you can add basically the whole main cast of Hamilton (with the exception of Rachel John), Clare Halse, Nic Rouleau, Andy Karl, Matthew Lewis and Victoria Hamilton-Barritt to the "happy to sign and pose for pics" list, based on my experience. Oh, and Sheena Easton used to escape immediately from the theatre to avoid fans, which I respect; their job ends after curtain call. Why not Rachel John?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 9:50:29 GMT
If you still update that list TM, you can add basically the whole main cast of Hamilton (with the exception of Rachel John), Clare Halse, Nic Rouleau, Andy Karl, Matthew Lewis and Victoria Hamilton-Barritt to the "happy to sign and pose for pics" list, based on my experience. Oh, and Sheena Easton used to escape immediately from the theatre to avoid fans, which I respect; their job ends after curtain call. Why not Rachel John? Apparently she used other exit when I stagedoored as no one there saw her, and by what I've been reading she usually does this.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 9:57:23 GMT
It is still updated. Can't add the Hamilton lot as it would need to be specific, but will do the rest, thanks @eldermillan. Jamael Westman, Tarinn Callender (super nice!), Michael Jibson, Jason Pennycooke, Cleve September, Giles Terera and Marsha Songcome. And also Rachelle Ann Go (got a pic when she was in Les Mis).
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Post by daisy24601 on May 23, 2018 9:58:47 GMT
Apparently she used other exit when I stagedoored as no one there saw her, and by what I've been reading she usually does this. Odd, she was always very chatty at Memphis.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 10:02:24 GMT
You've put the entire cast of Wicked under the W section, why is Hamilton different (apart from it starting with an H rather than a W)?
(I hate to be the person to raise this point but perhaps Alan Rickman is no longer a relevant inclusion?)
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 10:06:19 GMT
Apparently she used other exit when I stagedoored as no one there saw her, and by what I've been reading she usually does this. Odd, she was always very chatty at Memphis. I guess stage door at the Victoria Palace is too crazy at the moment and she just wants to go home. Totally understandable.
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Post by shady23 on May 23, 2018 19:37:04 GMT
If you still update that list TM, you can add basically the whole main cast of Hamilton (with the exception of Rachel John), Clare Halse, Nic Rouleau, Andy Karl, Matthew Lewis and Victoria Hamilton-Barritt to the "happy to sign and pose for pics" list, based on my experience. Oh, and Sheena Easton used to escape immediately from the theatre to avoid fans, which I respect; their job ends after curtain call. To be fair to Sheena, I met her at stage door once and she was happy to pose for photos and autographs, although she would only write "to..." on them to deter the eBay brigade. She was really nice although I had heard that she avoided stage door. Although Lulu was also happy to pose for photos and chat when I went and I had heard the same said about her!
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Post by Stephen on May 23, 2018 22:05:26 GMT
Interesting to hear that about Sheena. When I passed her after the show she completely ignored me and almost ran away!
My friendliest encounters have been with Billy Porter, Jim Parsons, James McAvoy and Alan Cumming!
Ewan McGregor wouldn't give my mum and I the time of day after his recent Broadway play. Even though we told him we were Scottish!
I completely understand that it's up to the performers though and wouldn't moan about it.
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Post by longinthetooth on May 23, 2018 23:03:15 GMT
Yes, but there's a difference between wanting a quick getaway (quite understandable) and being downright rude. A little courtesy doesn't go amiss, and if the 'star' is in a hurry, a smile and a 'sorry, but I have to rush' is so much more polite than totally blanking someone. I have frequented the Stage Door on many occasions, and have only encountered downright rudeness and blanking twice (sorry, no names!). Everyone else has been really friendly.
I hasten to add that my Stage Door visitations are purely to thank 'whoever' for a great performance, with possibly a request to sign the programme - I do not bombard them with gifts, or, heaven forbid, the dreaded Nutella!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 7:20:40 GMT
The problem with a wave and a smile is the people who, when given the inch, will take as much of the mile as they possibly can. It's like if your boss asks you to work at the weekend, you should just (politely and professionally) refuse and nothing else. If you explain *why* you can't work, you open things up for negotiation in their eyes and they'll use that knowledge to come up with "solutions" for you and wear you down. I know that the wave-and-smile probably seems like the stage door equivalent of politely refusing with no explanation, but people at the stage door are not necessarily going to be as restrained as your boss and could take even the merest eye contact as an invitation to engage. Let them blank you, and don't take it personally. They don't know you, they don't owe you anything, and they're doing what they need to do for themselves.
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Post by wickedgrin on May 24, 2018 10:53:29 GMT
Agree with Baemax above.
It is simply that some actors genuinely enjoy the hoopla of the stage door, meeting fans, media, selfies, chatting etc. and some actors don't - they are shy or just don't enjoy chit chat with strangers and would just rather go home after work and show 104.
As stated many times, the stage door is not part of the ticket price.
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Post by daisy24601 on May 24, 2018 11:38:02 GMT
Just had a read back through this thread, what an insight. I go to stage door if I have a particular favourite in the show (and ignore the rest of the cast!) but I do always worry if I'm bothering them or what they really think of me. I can't be as bad a some though based on this thread, I rarely ask for anything, occasionally a photo, and I always let them go when they want to leave or are in a hurry. And I never buy gifts! I have a certain fave in a certain show at the moment but when I see his beautiful face the ability to speak becomes a real struggle. I try to believe he thinks it's endearing rather than "Omg her again."
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 12:20:05 GMT
I think in all honesty unless you are a TOTAL ...well one of THOSE fans even if you are there a few times in a run very few actors will think badly of it, most will just appreciate the support.
(especially the more 'theatre actors' type rather than 'celebrities')
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Post by stagebyte on May 24, 2018 13:34:22 GMT
I often wonder how a non performer would react to a random person turning up outside work (let’s say Tesco for a little context) expecting scintillating conversation as they try to get home after a long day or to being approached with flowers or homemade cake or microwaves. Or finding a stranger standing in the same spot night after night in the car park just silently watching you or people getting cross personally or on social media if they are ignored. I have stage doored with my young son for autographs on occasion and even I find the whole thing odd. You could say it ‘goes with the territory’ but I don’t think any actor actively asks for post show attention just by turning up to work?
I knew a woman who was ‘obsessed’ with a certain young ensemble RSC actor and over the course of a season had spent 1000s going to see the plays he was in and stage doored him every time. Our coffee mornings would be filled with tales of their conversations at these stage door encounters. A group of us went to see the play for her birthday (her suggestion) and she insisted we all went to stage door after to ‘meet him’ The look of abject fear in the guy’s eyes as 4 women of a certain age walked towards him through the crowd was mortifying. She didn’t notice of course. She stood there completely tongue tied in his presence as we filled the awkward silence. I couldn’t get out of there fast enough. He was very professional and polite but we could see he was uncomfortable about her presence (again?) it was uncomfortable for us to watch too.
When the admiration for a performer turns to obvious crush probably best to leave it in the theatre rather than stage door however ‘cute’ the performer. This actor was in a relationship (we knew this as she had stalked his twitter!) and while he may well have been flattered the first few times by this woman’s attention and gifts the actor had clearly reached saturation point by the time we her mortified colleagues rocked up to the RSC. The next few times after our visit she remarked he hadn’t been at stage door when she waited... I wonder why? Don’t be ‘that person’ theatreboard friends
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 14:26:48 GMT
I can't work out if I know exactly who you mean, or if this is something that happens semi-regularly to a number of young RSC actors. The first one who instantly sprang to mind looks absolutely dead behind the eyes in the stage door photos I've been unfortunate enough to see, it's quite horrendous. If stage-dooring (v. the act of visiting the stage-door after a show) had been one of my hobbies, I would absolutely have dropped it once 40 stopped being a distant dream, I'd haaaaate to lose my perspective and be the cause of that look myself.
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Post by daisy24601 on May 24, 2018 16:20:39 GMT
Dont worry, I'm not that bad...
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Post by basi1faw1ty on May 24, 2018 16:51:08 GMT
Just had a read back through this thread, what an insight. I go to stage door if I have a particular favourite in the show (and ignore the rest of the cast!) but I do always worry if I'm bothering them or what they really think of me. I can't be as bad a some though based on this thread, I rarely ask for anything, occasionally a photo, and I always let them go when they want to leave or are in a hurry. And I never buy gifts! I have a certain fave in a certain show at the moment but when I see his beautiful face the ability to speak becomes a real struggle. I try to believe he thinks it's endearing rather than "Omg her again." I have the exact same reservations, you're not alone. I've done it quite a bit and still now, every single time I've felt like when they see me they'll remember me then will be all like "Dammit, not you again" and try to get away. But then I remember a moment that happened a few years ago that helps reassure me a lot: At the end of a show at the NT, I went to round to the SD for one particular actor (mentioning no names but I don't really need to cos I think most of you can probably guess who). When he came out and saw me, he was like "Oh hello you! Lovely to see you again!" but he could tell I was very embarrassed about the fact I had come to see him for like the 500th time and to stage door him again, and I was thinking he didn't want me there bombarding him with my ugly presence every chance I got (even though he gave me such a kind welcome), and I even said something like "Oh hey, I'm sorry, it's me again," and I kept on apologising and laughing awkwardly. So after we talked (technically I stammered) for a couple minutes, he got hold of my programme and signed "Always great to see you", and I burst into (happy, relieved) tears on the train home. NB: TM, you can add my mysterious NT actor to your list if you wish (PS. I started with no gifts, but then gradually I started giving out fan art and truffles as presents *blushes* Handmade stuff goes down really well, I've found.)
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Post by profquatermass on May 24, 2018 19:29:19 GMT
I work in a job where we quite often get presents from the grateful public. Anything home-made gets binned. That might just be us being paranoid though because of the nature of our particular public.
I feel sorry for actors who have to spend ages at the stage door. If anyone hung around my workplace at closing time every night waiting for a particular member of staff, we would eventually report them to the police (yes we have done this). Why are actors the only workers who aren't allowed to have downtime ? Yes, I realise this is an Unpopular Opinion
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Post by Phantom of London on May 24, 2018 20:04:05 GMT
See both sides of the argument, I agree it’s not in an actor’s contract, but can also appreciate that actors can also deliberately cultivate a fan base, naming no names here but would say Carrie Hope Fletcher, would be a prime example - so they should accept the rough with the smooth and spending 20 minutes chatting at the stage door does no harm, as ultimately what they do, you wouldn’t exactly describe it as work.
Also there is a definite line in the sand, between a fan appreciating someone’s work and want to share their appreciation and stalking someone.
From a personal perspective you can get too old to stage door and I fall squarely in this category, hence why I am on the closest train to the end of the performance!!!
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Post by 49thand8th on May 24, 2018 21:21:03 GMT
I venture to say there are plenty of actors who enjoy the attention at the stage door (for better or for worse), but I also feel like those who want to avoid the stage door can — more often than not it's easier if you're in the ensemble, of course.
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Post by daisy24601 on May 24, 2018 21:34:57 GMT
Just had a read back through this thread, what an insight. I go to stage door if I have a particular favourite in the show (and ignore the rest of the cast!) but I do always worry if I'm bothering them or what they really think of me. I can't be as bad a some though based on this thread, I rarely ask for anything, occasionally a photo, and I always let them go when they want to leave or are in a hurry. And I never buy gifts! I have a certain fave in a certain show at the moment but when I see his beautiful face the ability to speak becomes a real struggle. I try to believe he thinks it's endearing rather than "Omg her again." I have the exact same reservations, you're not alone. I've done it quite a bit and still now, every single time I've felt like when they see me they'll remember me then will be all like "Dammit, not you again" and try to get away. But then I remember a moment that happened a few years ago that helps reassure me a lot: At the end of a show at the NT, I went to round to the SD for one particular actor (mentioning no names but I don't really need to cos I think most of you can probably guess who). When he came out and saw me, he was like "Oh hello you! Lovely to see you again!" but he could tell I was very embarrassed about the fact I had come to see him for like the 500th time and to stage door him again, and I was thinking he didn't want me there bombarding him with my ugly presence every chance I got (even though he gave me such a kind welcome), and I even said something like "Oh hey, I'm sorry, it's me again," and I kept on apologising and laughing awkwardly. So after we talked (technically I stammered) for a couple minutes, he got hold of my programme and signed "Always great to see you", and I burst into (happy, relieved) tears on the train home. NB: TM, you can add my mysterious NT actor to your list if you wish (PS. I started with no gifts, but then gradually I started giving out fan art and truffles as presents *blushes* Handmade stuff goes down really well, I've found.) Aw, that was very sweet of him! I'm sure they can see when you're a genuine fan and are polite and sweet, that's not the people they're going to have a problem with. I understand why people see it as an odd offshoot of a job, but the fact is people admire singers and actors, always have, and if they have a chance to go and meet them that's a very exciting prospect. As someone who has seen a fair amount of it (more so at music concerts than theatre) I have definitely seen the difference between the people who have a polite, quick chat and photo then move on, and the people who are more over the top, shall we say. Also for the few people I am a fan of, I've often heard them say in interviews that it means a lot to them that people talk to them at stage door and tell them how much they enjoyed or were moved by the show etc. So that's sort of encouraging it? If they didn't want it they wouldn't mention it. Anyway the people I see rarely stop for more than 5 minutes but I can imagine it's longer for bigger stars.
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Post by wickedgrin on May 24, 2018 22:33:28 GMT
I am on the closest train to the end of the performance!!! Yes - me too, and so are a few actors!! I have often done a double take on a platform to see an actor I have just seen in a show and thought "my goodness, they must have legged it after the performance like me"
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Post by basi1faw1ty on May 25, 2018 5:37:45 GMT
Of course I'm not speaking for every actor out there, mine's just an example. Maybe a rare example of an actor who loves the stage door, but alas.
If he can't stop to chat, which he has done from time to time and is very polite about it, I will let him go. He and any other actor is not obliged to do anything out of work hours.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 6:20:40 GMT
A couple of these posts are reading like some of those brilliant Alan Bennett talking heads: you’re telling us a story, seemingly unaware of the other story that’s hiding just below the surface... but we hear both.
If I were an actor, and I spotted the same person waiting for me time and time (and time) again, I’d be worried... I’m not sure how I’d deal with it. We often hear of well intentioned, complimentary, enthusiastic fans who don’t know where and when to draw the line. So the line eventually gets drawn for them.
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Post by peggs on May 25, 2018 8:39:35 GMT
I am on the closest train to the end of the performance!!! Yes - me too, and so are a few actors!! I have often done a double take on a platform to see an actor I have just seen in a show and thought "my goodness, they must have legged it after the performance like me" It's when I'm on the same train as them going in that I'm really surprised, obviously not all actors need to deeply immerse themselves in their character for hours before 😊
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