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Post by lonlad on Oct 9, 2017 22:38:36 GMT
Jesus, sounds like something out of THE PLAY THAT GOES WRONG.
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Post by dannypc on Oct 9, 2017 23:06:31 GMT
I didn't notice the costume falling apart of the missed one? Where was that? The light is a gag - he's a blind man....yes the show stopped briefly with that cloth
Show just gets better - loved it. As did the audience. I think the Garrick has a whopping hit here
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Post by HereForTheatre on Oct 10, 2017 8:52:51 GMT
Oh it was a gag that spot "fail"? Well I did wonder about it being one when I saw it a few days ago but to be honest it's not that clear and feels like something going wrong rather than part of the joke.
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Post by stuart on Oct 10, 2017 15:29:20 GMT
I didn't notice the costume falling apart of the missed one? Where was that? The light is a gag - he's a blind man....yes the show stopped briefly with that cloth Show just gets better - loved it. As did the audience. I think the Garrick has a whopping hit here One of Elizabeth’s earring fell apart as she walked to the front of the stage for Surprise One of the ensemble was on stage as a villager after Puttin on the Ritz but still had their tails and green make up on.
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Post by stuart on Oct 10, 2017 20:28:33 GMT
Press night tonight. I’d expect strong reviews but can’t help but think a few critics might not like it. Word of mouth should be good though.
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Post by barbra99 on Oct 10, 2017 21:54:38 GMT
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Post by stevej678 on Oct 10, 2017 22:04:38 GMT
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Post by shady23 on Oct 10, 2017 22:47:47 GMT
Mark Shenton liked it as well
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Post by CG on the loose on Oct 10, 2017 23:20:52 GMT
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Post by theatremadness on Oct 10, 2017 23:32:20 GMT
I have never seen a reviewer miss the mark on a show so much as Natasha Tripney's 2* review in The Stage has done for Young Frankenstein.
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Post by dannypc on Oct 11, 2017 0:33:39 GMT
Yes they're wonderful reviews so far save for Natasha Tripney who probably shouldn't have been sent to review it. A 2 star show it ain't. She's never been a great reviewer anyway. 4 stars in the times!!
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Post by musicalmarge on Oct 11, 2017 5:54:10 GMT
I have never seen a reviewer miss the mark on a show so much as Natasha Tripney's 2* review in The Stage has done for Young Frankenstein. Her review is an utter disgrace. Men in power? Blah blah. I loved the show and 99 percent of others will too. I don’t think people will take much notice other than she’s made a fool of herself by writing that nonsense.
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Post by viserys on Oct 11, 2017 6:46:48 GMT
Interesting to note that the negative comments on Tripney's review here are coming from men.
While I would agree that her review is a bit too serious for what's essentially a silly comedy, perhaps men are just not aware of how sick and tired women are of this kind of stuff, where women can be carried off "to have his way with her" and it was okay and fun that Victor "knocked her around a bit" - I'm putting this in quotes, as it's from the review and admittedly I don't know how exactly it comes across on stage. But she certainly doesn't make a fool of herself by pointing out things that just didn't sit well with her - it's absolutely her right to feel unamused and uncomfortable by this kind of outdated humour.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 11, 2017 6:59:59 GMT
I have never seen a reviewer miss the mark on a show so much as Natasha Tripney's 2* review in The Stage has done for Young Frankenstein. Her review is an utter disgrace. Men in power? Blah blah. I loved the show and 99 percent of others will too. I don’t think people will take much notice other than she’s made a fool of herself by writing that nonsense. The stage is a naff newspaper anyway
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Post by stevej678 on Oct 11, 2017 7:30:59 GMT
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Post by shady23 on Oct 11, 2017 7:57:44 GMT
The Stage comments are ridiculous, she is completely unable to be objective because of her personal opinions. The scenes she describes are so far apart from modern "real" life they cannot be seen to be supporting domestic abuse, objectifying women or anything else. I work with domestic abuse victims, her comments do not help.
More damaging I find are the idylic love stories with the oh so perfect relationships that always turn out wonderful in the end.
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Post by dannypc on Oct 11, 2017 8:17:43 GMT
5 stars Daily Mail!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 9:24:48 GMT
I have never seen a reviewer miss the mark on a show so much as Natasha Tripney's 2* review in The Stage has done for Young Frankenstein. Obviously the Weinstein scandal is still a bit raw and effecting for her... "It contributes to a culture in which men in positions of power, movie producers say, can treat women like they exist solely for their titillation and amusement."
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Post by showgirl on Oct 11, 2017 9:58:31 GMT
5 from Theatrecat (Libby Purves) too, but blogger Ian Foster not keen.
Anyway, I've been dying to see this & was amazed - but delighted - to get a day seat at 10.40 am!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 10:12:17 GMT
I have never seen a reviewer miss the mark on a show so much as Natasha Tripney's 2* review in The Stage has done for Young Frankenstein. Obviously the Weinstein scandal is still a bit raw and effecting for her... "It contributes to a culture in which men in positions of power, movie producers say, can treat women like they exist solely for their titillation and amusement." Just because there's a specific example in the news right now that can be referred to in an interview doesn't mean lots of women haven't been feeling this way for years. Once you're aware of a social imbalance, you can't just overlook it in a way you would have done once, and perfectly otherwise-innocuous shows can easily rub an audience member the wrong way if it ties in with their awareness. I remember everyone else loving My Night With Reg at the Donmar, but for me it was just one in another long string of plays with no female cast members, and sometimes I can overlook that, but on the day I saw Reg, I couldn't. If Tripney finds the show tired and female-unfriendly and just another straw on the camel's back, then that's perfectly valid and her opinion doesn't need to be excused or explained away.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 10:17:14 GMT
I'm looking forward to seeing it, it looks and sounds fantastic!
I wonder if this could potentially garner several nominations next year at the Oliviers? I never saw it as competition really prior to the tryout, but now I'm not so sure!
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Post by dani on Oct 11, 2017 10:22:54 GMT
I'm sympathetic to the general concerns that Natasha Tripney is raising, but I think this is a strange place to dwell on them. I've only seen the film, not this adaptation, but everything that's in bad taste in Young Frankenstein is knowingly and overtly in bad taste. It's unconsidered misogyny or the stealthy abuse wreaked by the powerful that needs exposing. Exposing the not PC values of Mel Brooks is like complaining that there's blood in a steak.
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Post by showgirl on Oct 11, 2017 11:00:52 GMT
Sod's Law: bagged a day seat, then won the lottery, but if I hadn't entered...
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Post by jadnoop on Oct 11, 2017 12:48:30 GMT
The Stage comments are ridiculous, she is completely unable to be objective because of her personal opinions. It's not uncommon for people to call out reviewers for not being 'objective' enough, but I never really understand what that means. By definition any review of an artistic or cultural thing is going to be subjective. Sure, we each have our own concious and unconcious biases, but these will colour every aspect of a review: The way that we take in a story, or the subtexts that we do or don't see, whether we think something is faithful enough to the source material, whether it's funny or not (and whether or not we feel the humour to be intentional, or in good taste, or outdated), what we think of the music and the lighting and acting and whatnot are all going to be a reflection of our personal views and tastes. The fact that someone might view a work as an allegory for something, or in poor taste, or badly executed, or whatever doesn't make it more or less subjective than someone who views those things differently; it's just that their biases are slightly different. Indeed, the idea that a reviewer would try to curtail their subjective opinion seems to me to be entirely counter to the point of a review: Over the course of several articles the audience is able to get some idea of how a reviewer's tastes tally with their own. If reviewers started deliberately holding back on their thoughts to somehow be more representative of some unnamed everyman, then why bother having them in the first place? In the extreme, I suppose a truly objective review might be a dispassionate list of the technical specifications of each play.
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Post by stuart on Oct 11, 2017 14:43:07 GMT
This must be the best set of reviews a new West End show has got for a while?!
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