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Post by avenueqresident on Sept 6, 2016 20:42:33 GMT
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Post by ali973 on Sept 6, 2016 20:48:00 GMT
Good. I was very disappointed that this was buried. Is Lilly Allen still relevant though? And will La Smith be allowed to touch anything musical-related anytime in the next decade?
I honestly don't think the show really requires a star or a name. It's a popular enough franchise to sustain healthy box office sale.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 21:58:13 GMT
I think Lily Allen quit because Helen Fielding wanted to change the story, even though she said that all the songs are complete didn't she? Sheridan Smith also walked out on it.
I wonder if this would go straight to the West End or somewhere like the Old Vic for a tryout first?
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Post by ali973 on Sept 6, 2016 22:12:36 GMT
I had no idea Allen quit. She is quite talented and has a specific tone that I think would have worked well for this. If replaced, I think it would be a crime to give this to a male composer. There's absolutely a huge gap in the male to female composers (and generally, creatives) in musical theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 23:56:00 GMT
I had no idea Allen quit. She is quite talented and has a specific tone that I think would have worked well for this. If replaced, I think it would be a crime to give this to a male composer. There's absolutely a huge gap in the male to female composers (and generally, creatives) in musical theatre. Here's the article from 2 years ago here... www.whatsonstage.com/london-theatre/news/07-2014/lily-allen-leaves-bridget-jones-musical_35228.htmlI've got no particular interest in seeing this musical nor the books or films (unless I was dragged by a girlfriend!), but I agree it would be a total shame if Allen's work went to waste and she was replaced, especially by a male composer. Also I have always thought that Allen has been very clever with her lyrics and songwriting. But if the project looked like it was going nowhere, with the author making changes, then I don't blame her for leaving, after all development began in 2009! But at the same time (and correct me if I'm wrong as I mean this with no offence whatsoever), as far as I'm aware she isn't up to THAT much now is she (personal affairs aside)? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 7:16:45 GMT
Yes!! Great! It will tie in well with the third movie being released too.
It will probably try and get a star name but I don't think it needs one, it's a great movie anyway! However, I can only see Renee Zellwegger as Bridget anyway!!
Looking forward to seeing where this goes and how it develops
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 18:01:54 GMT
I'm not being funny but Sheridan Smith would make an AMAZING Bridget! The role needs lots of natural comedic timing and Smith certainly has that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 9:39:09 GMT
I wonder if they'll be able to get Bertie Carvel back to play Mark Darcy again.
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Post by MusicalTalk on Sept 9, 2016 12:19:40 GMT
I am glad Lilly Allen has left the project; this needs a real musical theatre composer and lyricist. Writing cute pop songs is one thing but - as we see time and time again - pop song writers merely cannot produce strong musical theatre scores. It'd be full of half rhymes and 4 chord ballads.
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Post by JJShaw on Sept 9, 2016 12:34:30 GMT
i don't know about that ^, with sara barreilles' score from waitress being such a hit, both commercially and with MT fans, i thought Lily Allen was a good fit for the project
agreed that Sheridan was a perfect fit for the project, i thought she was great in legally blonde and funny girl but neither role (for me) fit her as much as bright jones would (in my head..!)
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 9, 2016 13:39:40 GMT
I am glad Lilly Allen has left the project; this needs a real musical theatre composer and lyricist. Writing cute pop songs is one thing but - as we see time and time again - pop song writers merely cannot produce strong musical theatre scores. It'd be full of half rhymes and 4 chord ballads. Um.... Cyndi Lauper? |
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Post by Michael on Sept 9, 2016 13:50:27 GMT
I am glad Lilly Allen has left the project; this needs a real musical theatre composer and lyricist. Writing cute pop songs is one thing but - as we see time and time again - pop song writers merely cannot produce strong musical theatre scores. It'd be full of half rhymes and 4 chord ballads. Um.... Cyndi Lauper? Kinky Boots' score is awful. As is Finding Neverland's. And Waitress'. I fully agree with MusicalTalk that they should get a proper theatre composer. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 9, 2016 14:21:33 GMT
It's seems to be doing ok without your blessing Michael !  |
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Post by Michael on Sept 9, 2016 14:25:25 GMT
I know  completely beyond my understanding though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 14:59:05 GMT
I'm not being funny but Sheridan Smith would make an AMAZING Bridget! The role needs lots of natural comedic timing and Smith certainly has that. I'd imagine she's after a long break from the stage after Funny Girl. Maybe if it takes Bridget 2 years or so she might return to the project? Yeah I totally agree she probably won't do stage work for a few years as she's really in demand with film and TV too. I presume it will be a few more years until the show opens, as didn't Helen say it is being workshopped but she has written the book? |
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Post by daniel on Sept 9, 2016 15:43:52 GMT
Kinky Boots' score is awful. As is Finding Neverland's. And Waitress'. In your opinion Michael I loved Kinky Boots' score (live and CD), enjoyed most of Finding Neverland's (haven't seen it live)....listened to Waitress' cast recording and almost fell asleep, not my cup of tea at all, so I agree on that one! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 18:12:22 GMT
Although it's technically old news, it may not be to some. One of the scrapped demos Allen wrote for the show. Bridget's "love song to her fridge"
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Post by Jon on Sept 9, 2016 18:23:31 GMT
I really liked the scores for both Kinky Boots and Waitress and don't forget Elton John has had success with musicals like The Lion King, Billy Elliot and Aida. I do wonder what composers would be good for Bridget Jones.
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Post by Michael on Sept 9, 2016 18:33:20 GMT
I do wonder what composers would be good for Bridget Jones. Laurence O'Keefe? He composed the scores for Legally Blonde and Heathers (and Bat Boy). |
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Post by Jon on Sept 9, 2016 18:46:57 GMT
I do wonder what composers would be good for Bridget Jones. Laurence O'Keefe? He composed the scores for Legally Blonde and Heathers (and Bat Boy). I personally think they should have a British composer but O'Keefe isn't a bad shout. As someone who liked Loserville, I've always thought James Bourne and Elliot Davis should tackle another musical. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 19:45:47 GMT
I do hope this doesn't take too long to come to the stage - I hope it goes straight to West End too. I'm hoping around the end of next year (around Christmas time?), I know that is pushing it in terms of development but maybe things are going on behind closed doors? I mean the book is written so then it's just the music and if they are happy with the workshops, they can bring a director on board then the cast. I've been waiting so long for this!!  |
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Post by Jon on Sept 9, 2016 19:52:19 GMT
I do hope this doesn't take too long to come to the stage - I hope it goes straight to West End too. I'm hoping around the end of next year (around Christmas time?), I know that is pushing it in terms of development but maybe things are going on behind closed doors? I mean the book is written so then it's just the music and if they are happy with the workshops, they can bring a director on board then the cast. I've been waiting so long for this!! End of next year would be pushing it, especially as the book will probably be rewritten and music and lyrics probably will take a long time to get going once they find a composer and they need to find a creative team. I'm not expecting it to 2018 or 2019 at the earliest if it does get back off the ground. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 9, 2016 20:03:52 GMT
Lots of pop stars have had musicals to varying results, the reason they become pop stars, is because they were first class composers in the first place, think U2, Phil Collins, Boy George, ELO, ABBA etc. I thought the score to Waitress is top draw.
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Post by Jon on Sept 9, 2016 20:13:34 GMT
Lots of pop stars have had musicals to varying results, the reason they become pop stars, is because they were first class composers in the first place, think U2, Phil Collins, Boy George, ELO, ABBA etc. I thought the score to Waitress is top draw. ABBA's a great example because their songs are like mini stories and Benny and Bjorn have proven with Chess and Kristina that they can write great scores. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 20:21:46 GMT
I do hope this doesn't take too long to come to the stage - I hope it goes straight to West End too. I'm hoping around the end of next year (around Christmas time?), I know that is pushing it in terms of development but maybe things are going on behind closed doors? I mean the book is written so then it's just the music and if they are happy with the workshops, they can bring a director on board then the cast. I've been waiting so long for this!! End of next year would be pushing it, especially as the book will probably be rewritten and music and lyrics probably will take a long time to get going once they find a composer and they need to find a creative team. I'm not expecting it to 2018 or 2019 at the earliest if it does get back off the ground. Yeah I agree 2017 would be pushing it but hopefully 2018. I think 2019 might be abit too late for them if they've already started it and Helen said they are looking for an ideal theatre so hopefully 2018!  |
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completely beyond my understanding though.
