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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 10:32:58 GMT
I have never before noticed such a neck.
Otherwise, yawn.
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Post by wickedgrin on Sept 14, 2016 15:01:06 GMT
Caught this on catch up due to the good reviews and I found it very slow and completely unconvincing at every level. It seems just like a fancy dress party. The CGI looks like something from a Disney cartoon. I expected Mary Poppins to fly over London at any moment!
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Post by lynette on Sept 14, 2016 15:32:18 GMT
Just been told about a book on Victoria by Roland Perry in which he says he has found letters from Victoria to her daughter ( ma of the nasty Kaiser) that prove Victoria was in love with a guy way before Albert and went on loving him. Her mother got him out the way so she could marry Albert but this guy came back to court and so on...anyone know about this?
In light of the fact that V's other daughter destroyed loads of letters, I'm wondering how she missed these.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 15:49:42 GMT
"Roland Perry"?
Must be a fictional comedy character, surely?
Probably a fat boy in Grange Hill, played by Kathy Burke in the longlost pilot episode.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 21:06:26 GMT
Looking good again this week... I am enjoying this. We'll have to wait until next week to see whether Gretchen's notes were comprehensive enough. (Slightly worried that the teaser had Albert complaining that he'd been depicted in a cartoon as a sausage!)
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Post by rumbledoll on Sept 20, 2016 8:23:46 GMT
HG, if you are immune to the combined charms of Jenna Coleman and Rufus Sewell, there is truly no hope for you. ;-) And on that subject, having just caught up with episode 4: poor Lord M. I'll have your gardenias any day, Rufus, love.
Guess our poor heartbroken Lord M will have less and less screen time as the story unfolds.. Amazes me how much you can say with so little, just a slight change of facial expression. I have no idea what the real one was like but I'm utterly in love with Rufus Sewell's portrayal of this character. Incredibly poignant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 8:33:56 GMT
I haven't caught up with this week's episode yet but have read what happens. And also - before anyone says it - I have a vague grasp of history! ;-)
Perhaps when Mr Sewell is done playing a conflicted Nazi (guessing that was his next project, as Amazon seem to be promising season 2 of The Man in the High Castle around Christmas), ITV can lure him back for a series entitled 'The Further Adventures of Lord M'. Frankly, the writers wouldn't have to exert themselves - he could just be riding a horse, wearing lovely shirts and staring moodily into the candlelight for 60 minutes every week. I'd watch.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 8:49:30 GMT
I haven't caught up with this week's episode yet but have read what happens. And also - before anyone says it - I have a vague grasp of history! ;-) Perhaps when Mr Sewell is done playing a conflicted Nazi (guessing that was his next project, as Amazon seem to be promising season 2 of The Man in the High Castle around Christmas), ITV can lure him back for a series entitled 'The Further Adventures of Lord M'. Frankly, the writers wouldn't have to exert themselves - he could just be riding a horse, wearing lovely shirts and staring moodily into the candlelight for 60 minutes every week. I'd watch. Careful, jean. This thread is objectivication free. There'll be no phwoaring of anyone. Male, female or Lord M's horse. We watch it only for the history. And the pretty dresses, of course...  |
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Post by viserys on Sept 20, 2016 11:21:21 GMT
HG, if you are immune to the combined charms of Jenna Coleman and Rufus Sewell, there is truly no hope for you. ;-) And on that subject, having just caught up with episode 4: poor Lord M. I'll have your gardenias any day, Rufus, love.
Guess our poor heartbroken Lord M will have less and less screen time as the story unfolds.. Amazes me how much you can say with so little, just a slight change of facial expression. I have no idea what the real one was like but I'm utterly in love with Rufus Sewell's portrayal of this character. Incredibly poignant.
Maybe I lack a grasp of British politics, but I didn't really get why Lord M was having to say an elaborate goodbye to Victoria just because she's getting married? I mean isn't he still prime minister and as such likely to meet the queen very often? Why would he suddenly cease to function as an advisor to a very young queen? I mean, Albert, coming over from Germany, has no idea of British politics and who's who anyway, so he could never replace him. |
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Post by rumbledoll on Sept 20, 2016 12:33:12 GMT
I believe at this point Queen does not require an advisor anymore.. As she now older and married she can manage without. As for the Parliment he thinks it's time for him to resign. And considering his feelings to Victoria he's be better off not seeing her with Albert and such. Moreover, Albert is clearly very irritated by someone watching over. Lord M knew this coming right from the start and make the decisions he had too. But it doesn't make it less painful.
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Post by wickedgrin on Sept 20, 2016 12:39:52 GMT
Oh it's really all a bit of soap opera isn't it! I am sure most of what is scripted didn't actually happen. Are we really meant to believe Albert really cut his shirt open on the dance floor to place her flowers on his heart?
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Post by rumbledoll on Sept 20, 2016 12:43:14 GMT
I also think Lord M is not gone for good |
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Post by viserys on Sept 20, 2016 13:01:41 GMT
Ah, that makes sense, thanks. I didn't consider the fact that months (if not years) are meant to be passing between episodes.
I haven't looked up Lord M on wikipedia or something, but isn't he the chap who had a little place in Australia named after him?
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Post by bellboard27 on Sept 20, 2016 13:17:29 GMT
Ah, that makes sense, thanks. I didn't consider the fact that months (if not years) are meant to be passing between episodes. I haven't looked up Lord M on wikipedia or something, but isn't he the chap who had a little place in Australia named after him?
Melbourne is in Victoria.
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Post by viserys on Sept 20, 2016 13:50:29 GMT
now you made me splutter tea into my laptop keyboard
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Post by Stasia on Sept 20, 2016 13:50:34 GMT
HG, if you are immune to the combined charms of Jenna Coleman and Rufus Sewell, there is truly no hope for you. ;-) And on that subject, having just caught up with episode 4: poor Lord M. I'll have your gardenias any day, Rufus, love.
Guess our poor heartbroken Lord M will have less and less screen time as the story unfolds.. Amazes me how much you can say with so little, just a slight change of facial expression. I have no idea what the real one was like but I'm utterly in love with Rufus Sewell's portrayal of this character. Incredibly poignant.
The real one was 40 years older than Victoria so I doubt he was just as handsome as Sewell's M is  Also from what I've read, I got an impression that in her letters Victoria sees Melbourne as a father figure. But it would be much less interesting to watch, I guess |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 21:10:31 GMT
I haven't caught up with this week's episode yet but have read what happens. And also - before anyone says it - I have a vague grasp of history! ;-) Perhaps when Mr Sewell is done playing a conflicted Nazi (guessing that was his next project, as Amazon seem to be promising season 2 of The Man in the High Castle around Christmas), ITV can lure him back for a series entitled 'The Further Adventures of Lord M'. Frankly, the writers wouldn't have to exert themselves - he could just be riding a horse, wearing lovely shirts and staring moodily into the candlelight for 60 minutes every week. I'd watch. Careful, jean. This thread is objectivication free. There'll be no phwoaring of anyone. Male, female or Lord M's horse. We watch it only for the history. And the pretty dresses, of course... That's entirely your interpretation, caiaphas. I simply meant that Mr S needs no words to connect emotionally with his audience. And that the wardrobe department have a canny eye for male fashion. Obviously. ;-) I mean, if I were to objectify him, I'd have to say something like: 'Lord M can raise a quizzical eyebrow in my direction any time!' Which, of course, I would never say .* Poor Aidan Turner must be baffled. He has to take his shirt off in Poldark to drive the women mad. Sewell's got us falling at his feet while remaining fully clothed. (It's in the eyes, Aidan, it's all in the eyes.) *Thinking it, on the other hand... |
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Post by rumbledoll on Sept 20, 2016 21:45:28 GMT
Haha, Jean, please don't stop, I'm looking forward to your every comment in this post )))
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 13:32:36 GMT
Victoria II is on her way...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 16:53:34 GMT
Thought you'd be pleased, Trekkie!
I wonder if there will ever be a Victoria II? (I don't think the name has been used again by the modern Royals, has it? Margaret, Elizabeth, Charlotte, Zara, Eugenie, Beatrice, Sophie... Why no Victoria, I wonder?)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 17:15:05 GMT
Thought you'd be pleased, Trekkie! I wonder if there will ever be a Victoria II? (I don't think the name has been used again by the modern Royals, has it? Margaret, Elizabeth, Charlotte, Zara, Eugenie, Beatrice, Sophie... Why no Victoria, I wonder?) Not in our life time. If the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have another girl maybe we could have at least Princess Victoria. So pleased we've got a second series. I genuinely love Sunday evenings. Poldark then Victoria. |
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Post by Musicality21 on Sept 23, 2016 19:50:01 GMT
I'm really enjoying this and glad it's hopefully getting another series. It's a period of history that I don't know a lot about apart from the basics that everyone knows. My interests usually fall further back in history so I'm actually on the lookout for a good book about Victoria as I really want to learn more about her and the period.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 20:33:18 GMT
Just caught up with last night's Gogglebox. They're watching Victoria.
Scene: Victoria and Albert's wedding night. Victoria is looking coy, in nightie. Albert enters, looking very nervous.
Victoria: Would you like some Madeira?
Albert: (looks more nervous)
Mr Malone, a none too gifted Goggleboxer: Cake?
Mrs Malone, his long suffering wife: WINE!
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Post by rumbledoll on Sept 27, 2016 8:51:20 GMT
Expected the latest Ep to be a complete waste without Lord M and his charms but I must admit I'm still very much enjoying it. Glad it got Series 2 and probably more so we might get the glimpse of the entire reign of Victoria.
All the things I know about this period came from watching Horrible Hisrtories ))) So I'm aware of the fun stuff and major spoilers, but not the details in between. Even though I guess I cannot believe every single word they say as this dramatisation seems to take some liberties so far. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 21:58:16 GMT
KevinUK may be glad we've seen the back of Lord M, but I'm not.
Albert's such a drip! I found myself doing an Ann Widdecombe impersonation at that 'going in to dinner' scene: "Come on, assert yourself, Albert!"
But no, he just hung back and looked like a kicked puppy.
Can you imagine Lord M in that situation? He'd send the 'sticklers for the rules' packing with just the hint of an insolent smile.
I miss Lord M.
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