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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 0:19:35 GMT
See, I never really understood why so many people thought or got confused that that song alluded to the parents dying? I always took it as a song about how each of the parents are there, but never at the same time because thay worked different jobs to try and provide for the family? I thought this from the first time I saw it in 2013.  |
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Post by westendwendy on Dec 21, 2016 1:39:36 GMT
The show works much better with Charlie's father dead.
As does the song Cheer Up Charlie is better than the rubbish songs of the stage show.
I can't wait to see the new version. I hope they continue to make drastic changes. It's what the show, story, set, music and cast needs.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 21, 2016 6:55:22 GMT
That's the point- it IS going to be vastly different- hence the almost entirely new creative team. I know for a fact they were never satisfied with how London turned out- like most people on here!.. so let's hope this new approach to it delivers the goods. I really love Jackie Hoffman too... but the Mrs. Tevee portrayal in London is easily, in my opinion, the best part of the whole show! I have a feeling it is going to be vastly different with La Hoffman at the helm but hopefully some of that comedy value from the London portrayal isn't lost. |
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Post by CG on the loose on Dec 21, 2016 7:32:54 GMT
Well I can't say I'm disappointed it's going to be significantly different from the London production and having seen a (small in stature) adult ensemble member cover Jemima Potts in Chitty a few months ago, I can absolutely see how well it could work. Having only Charlie played by a child seems slightly odd but I can see that may serve to emphasise his otherness. Intrigued.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 21:35:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 22:09:50 GMT
Now why couldn't they have given the theatre Royal Drury Lane the factory treatment?
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Post by firefingers on Jan 7, 2017 23:49:34 GMT
Now why couldn't they have given the theatre Royal Drury Lane the factory treatment? Listed building, init. Andy got his arse handed to him when he painted the Adelphi black for Love Never Dies so he knows not to mess with his theatres' exteriors. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 2:55:29 GMT
No idea what this thing is, but it looks cool. http://instagram.com/p/BRENMeQgkON Not long now until it opens! REALLY curious now how this will differ to the West End. Hopefully for the better. |
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Post by cheesy116 on Mar 6, 2017 22:37:27 GMT
I have been keeping an eye on this production during rehearsals, by looking at various social medias. As we know, the kids other than Charlie are played by adults but I have now seen pictures of all the 'kid' characters and 2 of them are taller than the actors/actresses playing their parents  I hope they've thought of an excuse because that will look completely wrong. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 10, 2017 16:57:10 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 10, 2017 17:45:18 GMT
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Post by Jon on Mar 10, 2017 21:35:21 GMT
I assume he's going to wearing a wig that in the Wilder vein
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 0:51:29 GMT
Good move - if it tanks, they can revert to "The King and I" overnight. Or "Annie"! |
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Post by westendwendy on Mar 14, 2017 23:35:48 GMT
Thank goodness they are putting Candy Man for the start of the show and I've Got a Golden Ticket into the show. Sad Cheer Up Charlie never made it. The set is completely different too. Exciting what they will do with it, the adults playing the kids seems to work! As its a completely different production they really should have designed new artwork and logo in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 19:45:10 GMT
First preview on Broadway tonight! But looks like there was an invited dress rehearsal last night. Here's the new pre-show curtain on someone's instagram. Guess it's a tiny improvement from plain black at Drury Lane! http://instagram.com/p/BSMVje0lLtl |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 12:45:49 GMT
http://instagr.am/p/BSNQEzlgv0b Urgh. Dont like. I really like the framing of the stage/set on the London production. This Clouds thing looks pants. Also its kinda cool to include 'The Candy Man' but curtain call material? Feels a bit lifeless to me. |
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Post by stuartmcd on Mar 29, 2017 13:35:54 GMT
Ewww look at that tiny factory in the background. Please don't tell me that's what they use throughout the show. The one thing the London production had going for it was it's design so it's a shame that they have changed it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 13:48:47 GMT
Ewww look at that tiny factory in the background. Please don't tell me that's what they use throughout the show. The one thing the London had going for it was it's design so it's a shame that they have changed it Agree. The design for the London production was brilliant, with the exception of the great glass anomaly. For me, the design really made the show. The scale and perspective of it really had a 'Dahl' feel to it. This looks overly Warner Brothers-ed. |
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Post by westendwendy on Mar 29, 2017 13:56:11 GMT
The set is completely different and glad they have added new songs. The West End set has completely gone and changed. No one seems impressed from the people I know who even work on it. I don't see this as a long runner - no one seems to have got the show right yet.
The West End version looked great but was bad with many flaws (many music in my opinion), the new Broadway production looks cheap sadly but had solved some (but not all of the original issues) with the original piece.
I'm sorry but they should have just had the film onstage with some extra melodic songs to pad it out aka Mary Poppins style. I feel this show will evolve and one day it will become what it always should have been, recreating some of the magic of the film on stage.
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Post by stuartmcd on Mar 29, 2017 14:10:07 GMT
Reading that they have removed the television set pieces for when each child wins a ticket and it is just done at the back of the stage with a projection. Set is minimalistic. They have also changed the design of the Oompa Loompas and Willy Wonka is introduced right at the beginning of the show singing Candy Man
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 14:50:18 GMT
Reading that they have removed the television set pieces for when each child wins a ticket and it is just done at the back of the stage with a projection. Set is minimalistic. They have also changed the design of the Oompa Loompas and Willy Wonka is introduced right at the beginning of the show singing Candy Man Sounds gash. I really liked that interaction between Charlie and the 'Hobo' at the start of the show which turns around right at the end to reveal Wonka is that character. It adds to the suggestion that Wonka picked Charlie to win before he'd even entered the factory. I really liked the songs in the London show. I think the problem with this show is people will always compare it to the Gene Wilder movie. For me, the London production was a standalone piece, and if you view it as that you get more out of it. No-one sits there comparing the stage version of Matilda to the screen version, or the stage version of Phantom to the Lon Chaney movie and I think its wrong to do the same to Charlie. This NY production seems a bit of an insult to the original though. I do hope they tour the original through the UK, not this updated version. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 21:30:16 GMT
Reading that they have removed the television set pieces for when each child wins a ticket and it is just done at the back of the stage with a projection. Set is minimalistic. They have also changed the design of the Oompa Loompas and Willy Wonka is introduced right at the beginning of the show singing Candy Man Sounds gash. I really liked that interaction between Charlie and the 'Hobo' at the start of the show which turns around right at the end to reveal Wonka is that character. It adds to the suggestion that Wonka picked Charlie to win before he'd even entered the factory. I really liked the songs in the London show. I think the problem with this show is people will always compare it to the Gene Wilder movie. For me, the London production was a standalone piece, and if you view it as that you get more out of it. No-one sits there comparing the stage version of Matilda to the screen version, or the stage version of Phantom to the Lon Chaney movie and I think its wrong to do the same to Charlie. This NY production seems a bit of an insult to the original though. I do hope they tour the original through the UK, not this updated version. I think the Broadway one will probably be the one they tour as it is probably scaled down a bit from Drury Lane. I personally wasn't a fan of having the hobo in at the beginning, to me it just seemed too obvious and cliched that it was Wonka. But I think people are comparing it to the Gene Wilder movie because it was already a musical, so they'd expect songs from that in the stage version, despite it technically being an adaptation of the BOOK rather than the FILM (after all, they are technically different titles!). I like most of the songs from the London version and don't think including "Candy Man" or the old Oompa Loompa songs would hurt too much, maybe even "Cheer Up Charlie" as I wasn't a huge fan of "If Your Mother Were Here". I actually now prefer "Don't Ya Pinch Me Charlie" more than "I've Got A Golden Ticket" which I think I read somewhere has been put in now. |
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Post by westendwendy on Mar 30, 2017 0:33:16 GMT
Cheer up Charlie isn't in the Broadway show..
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Post by daniel on Mar 30, 2017 0:53:49 GMT
This is the version due to Tour the UK in a couple of years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 2:57:45 GMT
Complete new song list, for those wanting it (copied exactly from the Playbill):
Act I
01. "The Candy Man" – Willy Wonka & Ensemble
02. "Willy Wonka! Willy Wonka!" – Charlie & Ensemble
03. "The Candy Man" – Charlie
04. "Tales of Wonka" – Grandpa Joe
05. "A Letter from Charlie Bucket" – Charlie, Mr. Bucket & The Grandparents
06. "More of Him to Love" - Augustus, Mrs. Gloop & Ensemble
07. "When Veruca Says" - Mr. Salt, Veruca
08. "The Queen of Pop" - Violet Beauregarde, Mr. Beauregarde & Ensemble
09. "What Could Possibly Go Wrong?" - Mike Teavee, Mrs. Teave & Ensemble
10. "If Your Father Were Here" - Mrs. Bucket
11. "I’ve Got a Golden Ticket"/"Grandpa Joe" - Charlie Grandpa Joe, Mrs. Bucket & The Grandparents
12. "It Must Be Believed to Be Seen" - Willy Wonka & Ensemble
Act II
13. "Strike That! Reverse It!" - Willy Wonka & The Golden Ticket Winners
14. "Pure Imagination"/"Grandpa Joe" (Reprise) - Willy Wonka, Charlie, Grandpa Joe & The Golden Ticket Winners
15. "The Oompa Loompa Song" – The Oompa Loompas
16. "Auf Wiedersehen Augustus Gloop" - Willy Wonka & The Oompa Loompas
17. "When Willy Met Oompa" - Willy Wonka & The Oompa-Loompas,
18. "Veruca's Nutcracker Sweet" – Veruca & The Oompa-Loompas
19. "Vidiots" – Willy Wonka, Mike, Mrs. Teavee & The Oompa-Loompas
20. "The View From Here" - Willy Wonka & Charlie
21. "Strike That! Reverse It!" (Charlie’s Reprise) – Charlie & The Company
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I hope they've thought of an excuse because that will look completely wrong. 
