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Post by Jan on Aug 6, 2016 16:21:15 GMT
My advice is to see these at Chichester. For stalls seats even factoring in the train fare it is half the price of seeing them at the rotten old Haymarket, you could even stay the night down there and it would still be cheaper.
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Post by Jan on Aug 6, 2016 16:29:20 GMT
..... I booked to see both in a day front stalls for £45, equivalent Haymarket price £134
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 19:57:41 GMT
I'd have to see them with Lisa Dillon though. I'll pass, and hold onto my memories of seeing them in Stratford with Michelle Terry.
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Post by crabtree on Aug 6, 2016 20:29:25 GMT
They are staging them in Manchester as well. I wonder how they will redesign without the lifts.
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Post by danielwhit on Aug 7, 2016 9:23:16 GMT
Alternatively, if you're not sure about seeing them at all.. buy the DVD or BluRay  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 17:12:14 GMT
I'd have to see them with Lisa Dillon though. I'll pass, and hold onto my memories of seeing them in Stratford with Michelle Terry. I LOVED these productions in Stratford! I was lucky enough to manage to go twice too, that's how much I loved them. I'm really torn - I loved the music and the sets and Edward Bennett is wonderful, so I'd love to see them again. But I don't think I'd want to see it with someone in Michelle Terry's place. Her chemistry was so good with Ed Bennett, I'm scared it would feel like he's cheating to see him with someone else. |
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Post by Peach on Aug 8, 2016 10:56:49 GMT
I'd have to see them with Lisa Dillon though. I'll pass, and hold onto my memories of seeing them in Stratford with Michelle Terry. I LOVED these productions in Stratford! I was lucky enough to manage to go twice too, that's how much I loved them. I'm really torn - I loved the music and the sets and Edward Bennett is wonderful, so I'd love to see them again. But I don't think I'd want to see it with someone in Michelle Terry's place. Her chemistry was so good with Ed Bennett, I'm scared it would feel like he's cheating to see him with someone else. I had to laugh when I read this - I adore Michelle Terry. I would feel I was cheating on her to watch this version with someone else other than her! |
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Post by Distant Dreamer... on Aug 9, 2016 7:33:02 GMT
I love Lisa so I can't wait for these productions, but I agree that Terry is fab too!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 17:05:05 GMT
Does anyone know why Michelle Terry isn't in these? Is she about to open in something else really fantastic, perhaps in rep at my local, the Sheffield Crucible? *hopeful*
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 18:12:02 GMT
Going by her "Henry V," she may be covering for Josh Widdicombe on a TV panel show somewhere. Haha! |
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Post by CG on the loose on Oct 1, 2016 18:25:01 GMT
Missed these when they were just down the road in Stratford but currently half way through the 'double' and loving it. Hadn't realised I was here so early in the run - explains Christopher Luscombe's presence in the audience this afternoon.
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 1, 2016 20:33:41 GMT
Saw these as a doublebill one saturday in sua, thought they were both excellent and was bit surprised they didnt go to west end there an then! Highly recommended😂
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Post by crabtree on Oct 1, 2016 22:58:00 GMT
I hope the sets are still as lavish as they were in stratford, though there will have to be considerable restaging. Does the LLL turret slide on, rather than rising up through the floor. And the billiard table?
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Post by CG on the loose on Oct 1, 2016 23:35:49 GMT
Two turrets, either side and static, other pieces sliding in and out. Only thing that came up through the floor was the LLW tomb. Honestly don't remember a billiard table... there was a billiard table? Maybe not any more (smaller stage in Chichester?)!
The main sets were pretty elaborate, sliding forward as a complete room on a truck (is that the technical term?) and very effective, I thought. Hard to say if as lavish as Stratford as I didn't see it there.
Thoroughly enjoyed the second half of the double bill too. Excellent cast. Excellent production.
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Post by crabtree on Oct 2, 2016 10:22:52 GMT
thanks CG. Yep in LLW, I think, the grass rolled back and a huge billiard table rose out of the floor., as did the huge turret in LLL. A great pair of productions with ravishing music, and LLL is my favourite Shakespeare comedy for that ghastly sting in the tail.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 8, 2016 16:37:09 GMT
Just LLL and thought it was great. Can't wait for the next instalment
(Nothing rises out of the floor in Chichester)
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Post by Jan on Oct 22, 2016 8:07:01 GMT
These are the best RSC Shakespeares I have seen for quite a while. The staging and music are excellent, the acting is uniformly good though the two leads are a tad uncharismatic and lacking in chemistry.
Glad to see Nigel Hess back at the RSC with a brilliant score. He worked a lot with them in the 1980s (including a great score for the dazzling Terry Hands/Jacobi Much Ado).
LLL is the lesser play and production, it is almost a cliche to set it just prior to WW-1, I am struggling to think of a production I have seen which wasn't set then, but it is justified here by the interesting juxtaposition with Much Ado.
Acting honours taken by Nick Haverson with a quite unique, funny, unsettling (almost disturbing) turn as Dogberry. Honourable mention for Stephen Pacey for getting laughs with Holofernes - a great rarity.
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Post by David J on Oct 22, 2016 9:00:19 GMT
Edward Bennett and Michelle Terry worked so well together when this was in Stratford. I thought I heard that they know each other from Drama School, so it wouldn't be surprising
Lisa Dillon isnt bad but she doesn't have the zeal that Terry always gives. Perhaps she'll get better but it felt like she was playing catch-up with Edward Bennett
What other LLL productions were set in a pre-WW1 setting. I only know the David Tennant and Globe productions, and the Kenneth Branagh film.
I thought this production made the play the perfect pre-WW1 play. The death of a political figure bringing shock to Europe felt apt to the change of tone in the play. And for an ending that is usually bitter-sweet, it became Love's Labour's Lost Never to be Found Again for me. It brought tears to my eyes
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Post by David J on Oct 22, 2016 9:12:15 GMT
Oh and I can't stop listening to Nigel Hess' music on my iphone.
Especially the "When Daisies pied"/"If love make me forsworn" at the end of Love's Labour's Lost.
Shame they cut out a song at the beginning of the 2nd act of Much Ado. I suppose it doesn't add anything but was basically the cast onstage as the locals singing "In the Bleak Midwinter"
A pretty sombre moment which made me wonder how many of those people have lost someone they knew. I don't think Much Ado stands well as a post-WW1 play but that and the way Dogberry is portrayed was pretty heart-rendering
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Post by Jan on Oct 22, 2016 9:44:59 GMT
Edward Bennett and Michelle Terry worked so well together when this was in Stratford. I thought I heard that they know each other from Drama School, so it wouldn't be surprising Lisa Dillon isnt bad but she doesn't have the zeal that Terry always gives. Perhaps she'll get better but it felt like she was playing catch-up with Edward Bennett What other LLL productions were set in a pre-WW1 setting. I only know the David Tennant and Globe productions, and the Kenneth Branagh film. I thought this production made the play the perfect pre-WW1 play. The death of a political figure bringing shock to Europe felt apt to the change of tone in the play. And for an ending that is usually bitter-sweet, it became Love's Labour's Lost Never to be Found Again for me. It brought tears to my eyes Pre-WW-I is a good setting for LLL - normally (and I was expecting it here) the last thing you hear are the distant explosions from the Somme (which of course in reality could be heard from Southern England). Best production I have seen was the Trevor Nunn NT one where he explicitly had WW-I battle scenes at the beginning and end - he also turned it into even more of a musical comedy by having all four of the suitor's poems set as songs (it was cross-cast with the Cole Porter musical Anything Goes). From what I recall at least 2 of the other 3 RSC productions I have seen were set in the same period, maybe all 3 were(1984 Kenneth Branagh/Roger Rees, 1991 Simon Russell-Beale/Ralph Fiennes, 1994 Dan Massey). |
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Post by Jan on Oct 22, 2016 10:38:17 GMT
These are the best RSC Shakespeares I have seen for quite a while. Thank goodness, janbrock. I spent more than I intended to catch them at the Haymarket. I warned you to see them in Chichester ! Front row seats for both + travel for < £50 in total. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 10:55:53 GMT
I loved these so much in Stratford! It was particularly interesting to see them with their Christmas production that year, The Christmas Truce, which had most of the same cast and covered the period in between the two plays. Different characters obviously, but it made a link between the two, so that with LLW you had direct knowledge and imagery of what they'd just been through.
There are dvds of the cinema versions, with Michelle Terry (I loved her chemistry with Ed Bennett so much!) and there's a cd of the gorgeous music.
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Post by emsworthian on Oct 22, 2016 11:56:13 GMT
I saw LLL last week and loved it. Sadly I can't get to Much Ado but I'll try to get hold of the DVD.
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 22, 2016 19:28:27 GMT
warned you to see them in Chichester ! Front row seats for both + travel for < £50 in total. If I had the time to get all the way to Chichester, and could rely on there being a train service, I would, LOL. Maybe its me but i have travelled to Chichester from Birmingham and never had probs! Glad these productions are getting recognition😅 |
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 22, 2016 19:30:48 GMT
Edward Bennett and Michelle Terry worked so well together when this was in Stratford. I thought I heard that they know each other from Drama School, so it wouldn't be surprising Lisa Dillon isnt bad but she doesn't have the zeal that Terry always gives. Perhaps she'll get better but it felt like she was playing catch-up with Edward Bennett What other LLL productions were set in a pre-WW1 setting. I only know the David Tennant and Globe productions, and the Kenneth Branagh film. I thought this production made the play the perfect pre-WW1 play. The death of a political figure bringing shock to Europe felt apt to the change of tone in the play. And for an ending that is usually bitter-sweet, it became Love's Labour's Lost Never to be Found Again for me. It brought tears to my eyes Pre-WW-I is a good setting for LLL - normally (and I was expecting it here) the last thing you hear are the distant explosions from the Somme (which of course in reality could be heard from Southern England). Best production I have seen was the Trevor Nunn NT one where he explicitly had WW-I battle scenes at the beginning and end - he also turned it into even more of a musical comedy by having all four of the suitor's poems set as songs (it was cross-cast with the Cole Porter musical Anything Goes). From what I recall at least 2 of the other 3 RSC productions I have seen were set in the same period, maybe all 3 were(1984 Kenneth Branagh/Roger Rees, 1991 Simon Russell-Beale/Ralph Fiennes, 1994 Dan Massey). Only saw the 1990 Terry Hands production of those three and it had a victorian setting as i recall. |
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