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Post by Flim Flam on Jun 28, 2016 10:17:35 GMT
I came across this strange ruling about backpacks a couple of years ago whilst visiting a museum abroad. I had a leather backpack style handbag. Not large, and most definitely my handbag. The museum staff stopped me and told me it had to be taken to the cloakroom. I was wearing summer clothes with no substantial pockets, so it left me with nowhere to carry my money, credit cards, water, and passport. I certainly was not going to leave them with the bag, and in any case needed money etc with me.
I protested but they were having none of it. In the end I seem to remember I managed to find a small bag in my handbag from where I had purchased something earlier in the day, and had to wander the museum with my valuables very insecurely held in this flimsy bag. Totally ridiculous situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 10:57:52 GMT
I can understand this in museums as they're worried about you damaging things as you can't see where the bag is. A lot of them will let small backpacks in if you carry them in front
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Post by Flim Flam on Jun 28, 2016 11:22:42 GMT
I agree about that. I'm always being attacked on the tube by people swinging their large backpacks into my face. However, this was basically a smallish handbag, which I had on one shoulder. I could have caused far more destruction with a larger handbag than I could have done with that bag.
I realise that they have to make rules, but I see many female tourists in London with this type of handbag, and I wonder if they are going to be in the same situation now if they visit the NT. Surely some rule about the size of bag would be more appropriate?
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Post by theatremiss on Jun 28, 2016 11:24:42 GMT
I was once at Phantom at Her Maj and all through the first act i could hear a kind of scraping/grinding noise coming from the seats behind me. At the interval I got up to stretch my legs and there were about 4 Japanese tourists with large hard sided, clam shell type suitcases IN FRONT of them and balancing their cameras on. Everytime someone shifted the camera scraped across the top of the case. I was in UC and I have no idea how they got 4 suitcases up the stairs let alone without being seen!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 28, 2016 13:18:52 GMT
What on earth are you boys all carrying around in these backpacks?
I bet 90% of whatever it is is totally superfluous.
Leave the bag at home. Liberate yourselves.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 28, 2016 13:21:21 GMT
I agree about that. I'm always being attacked on the tube by people swinging their large backpacks into my face. God that really grinds my gears. Even worse on trains where the aisle is narrower and they're bashing me on the head as they turn around looking for seats. And wheelie suitcases. Dragged along behind people in crowded stations at arms length as if there was all the space in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 13:27:58 GMT
Worst I've seen was a young lady dragging a wheelie case behind her and holding a selfie stick in front of her at arms length while striding through the streets of Manhattan
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Post by lynette on Jun 28, 2016 13:33:38 GMT
I once was asked to put a rather small backpack into the cloakroom, which I did. Then as I walked into the theatre there was a woman with a handbag twice the size of my backpack strolling in with no-one batting an eyelid. At this point in time I should point out that I'd had a very bad day and was not in the greatest of moods. This really bugged me because her bag was twice the size of mine (literally). Off I went back to the cloakroom and asked for my backpack to be returned as I was taking it in with me. I was told I couldn't so I politely asked if we could talk about the NT's equal opportunities policy and the fact that they appear to have a policy but don't apply it fairly and equally. I suggested they go into the auditorium and ask the lady with the large handbag to put it into the cloakroom or they could return my bag. Backpack was returned. Well done you. Bags: don't get me started. On planes big as elephants stuffed into the over lockers crushing coats, delicate stuff especially carried on board cos delicate, theatres stuffed in space where legs should go making it an Olympic sport to have to walk past to the aisle, museums, ha! a glance inside a handbag in which I could secret Semtex and a small axe but you just couldn't see it ( or smell if no dogs ) while men, it is men, walk through a check cos they don't carry bags! What they have stuffed in the puffy jackets or down the loose trousers is anyone's guess ( restrain yourself from rudery please) so what's the point of the bag check? On the tube, huge bags on backs taking up space of Sumi wrestler and on floor in front of doors of course. People have to take stuff round of course they do and most people are considerate but then the bag checks are inconsistent and cloakrooms in theatres a pain.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 13:40:33 GMT
I'll carry a backpack sometimes, if I'm out for the day and have got to the point with my preparations where my cardigan and book and umbrella and packed lunch really do call for the additional carry space. I have a rather handy cloth backpack that doesn't take up any more space than it needs to, and I don't swing it around like an over-excited gibbon, so just make sure you buy a sensible backpack to begin with, then behave with consideration once you're out and about.
Wheelie suitcases really are the devil's work though. My "favourite" is people who start walking then, as they are walking, let the suitcase drop behind them, so anyone who was behind the walking person suddenly has a suitcase tripping them up. If you need to wheel it through the crowded underground, then step out of everyone's way while you pull up the handle so there are no nasty surprises for anyone else.
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 28, 2016 15:07:30 GMT
the woman in front of me at Guys and Dolls was texting throughout the show. And 5 times leant forward to get a better focus on her camera to take a picture. I mean BEYOND distracting.
Had a word at half time that consisted of 'please stop. Its driving me mad'. She laughed and proceeded to just text Act 2. Why even go to a show?!
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Post by stuartmcd on Jun 28, 2016 18:23:47 GMT
What on earth are you boys all carrying around in these backpacks? I bet 90% of whatever it is is totally superfluous. Leave the bag at home. Liberate yourselves. Haha I do try and leave it when I can but having to get an hour and a half train to London means I like to take a book. It's a handy place to keep my glasses, ticket and a bottle of water. Also if I buy a programme of brochure then I can keep it in their rather than carry it around. It's annoying that you have to stand and have a stranger go through your stuff before you can go into the theatre but it's definitely handy to have a bag.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 28, 2016 21:08:06 GMT
The NT cloakroom once let me store two huge suitcases, so I feel slightly indebted to defend them. Cheaper than a locker for the day in London, sound advice Duchess
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Post by CG on the loose on Jun 28, 2016 21:50:34 GMT
What on earth are you boys all carrying around in these backpacks? I bet 90% of whatever it is is totally superfluous. Leave the bag at home. Liberate yourselves. Girl... and laptop, cables, work papers, bottle of water, corkscrew (doesn't everyone?). I alternate working in London and working from home 100 miles away, so invariably have my 'commuting' backpack with me when I'm at the theatre in London mid-week. At weekends, I am indeed liberated
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 29, 2016 4:10:35 GMT
What on earth are you boys all carrying around in these backpacks? I bet 90% of whatever it is is totally superfluous. Leave the bag at home. Liberate yourselves. Haha I do try and leave it when I can but having to get an hour and a half train to London means I like to take a book. It's a handy place to keep my glasses, ticket and a bottle of water. Also if I buy a programme of brochure then I can keep it in their rather than carry it around. It's annoying that you have to stand and have a stranger go through your stuff before you can go into the theatre but it's definitely handy to have a bag. Yep! Not a boy, but... my backpack (or tote bag, depending on the day) that I bring to the theatre is good for holding: * water bottle * program, as mentioned above * solar-powered phone charger, depending how long I'm out * well-sealed leftovers, if applicable * jacket * umbrella, if needed * miniature folding stool if I'm going to be out in a line for a while None of this except for the charger would normally fit in my purse. And oftentimes I'll do some grocery shopping on the way home after a matinee, and I hate plastic bags, so I'll use my backpack for that as well.
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Post by greenswan on Jun 29, 2016 6:34:47 GMT
I mentioned this in another thread but I've been blocked by ushers twice now from taking my very reasonably sized backpack in while other women can take in huge handbags. One of the ushers was quite rude to me as well, so I'm taking a bit of a break from the National now.
They should either install an Easyjet Style bag size checker or get over it. No other theatre in London discriminates against people with a certain type of bag.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 22:32:17 GMT
Some of us come straight from work and that means carrying around a whole load of papers and notebooks and general crap! I have a dedicated weekend bag that is much lighter and smaller. But I've also found through trial and error that I can get my work bag through the NT's strict checks by carrying it on the opposite shoulder that the ushers see. So not really that secure...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 7:24:01 GMT
I have before now had an usher at the NT express doubt about the size of my handbag, but explaining very early on in the exchange that you're planning to keep it on your lap for the entire duration of the show can allay their concerns. Obviously if you get a super strict/stern/rude usher there's no guarantee it'll work, but if you want to take your dubiously-sized bag in, it's worth a try.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 7:26:31 GMT
What they have stuffed in the puffy jackets or down the loose trousers Wallet, cards, keys, oyster card, phone, torch, first aid kit, notebook, carrier bags (cheers, greens!), cuddly toy, fondue set...
... oh, and quite often all the stuff any accompanying lady doesn't wish to carry herself
As the lady with a handbag it is usually me who carries the water and any other items that Mr can't fit in his pockets. That's why I can never be an unencumbered theatregoer!
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 30, 2016 16:25:47 GMT
I've almost always had male friends ask me if I could hold their stuff. No, get your own bag!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 17:01:03 GMT
It's not a gender thing, I'm a lady and I've given things to my lady friend to put in her bag before, and vice versa. It's just whoever's got the most storage space, nothing more profound than that really.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 30, 2016 19:33:05 GMT
A common one i assume but at Curious Incident last night there was a large school party. Giggling after every swear word or mention of sex or Christopher did something a bit not 'cool'. Drove me mad, especially when it was something quite serious and immersive piece. Not all of them of course, a lot were into it and behaved but you always get some who don't.
Oh and not bad behaviour as such but at Aladdin today...i had someone around me who really seemed to think they were a theatre expert, critiquing every little thing about the show in the interval, discussing the show/performers and also other shows/performers like a complete theatre know it all...which is fine if you are a theatre know it all....but nearly everything she said was wrong! Even i knew that and i don't pretend to be any type of theatre expert!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 9:34:50 GMT
At the matinee yesterday for Midsummer Night's Dream at Stratford upon Avon. Lots of schoolchildren in the audience who were mainly well behaved. The problem was the family sitting next to me with 2 small children. The youngest of the 2 whinged and whined most of the way through the first half which of course was very distracting. A theatre attendant came a couple of times to ask them to be quiet but obviously to no effect. I must admit I had thought of saying something before the second act had begun but the offender and one of the adults were nowhere to be seen. While I feel for the parents I don't think they understood their responsibility in this scenario. Really up there with mobile phone use and talking over the overture. By the way I loved the production and it brought tears to my sister's eyes at the end.
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Post by longinthetooth on Jul 1, 2016 17:52:03 GMT
Absolute corker at Les Mis the other night. Upper Circle, and a man calmly walked to the front of the circle, stood by the rail and began filming the final scene. He was told to return to his seat, which he did with only seconds remaining of the show. As we were leaving, the lady usher called him over and read him the riot act, explaining about copyright etc, but she was foreign, he was foreign but a different nationality, and communication between them was proving a bit difficult. Short of loitering to eavesdrop, I didn't hear the final outcome.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 1, 2016 19:51:04 GMT
I've almost always had male friends ask me if I could hold their stuff. No, get your own bag!
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