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Post by toomasj on Aug 27, 2023 18:05:59 GMT
“Theatre-goers held up their phones and filmed as around eight police officers and Dominion Theatre staff lined the stairway of the balcony where seats cost from £59.50 to as much as £150.” You what? 🤣
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Post by alece10 on Aug 27, 2023 18:12:46 GMT
Plus the Dominion doesn't have a balcony.
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Post by theatreghost on Aug 27, 2023 19:19:52 GMT
Yep the two couples removed from Grease must have been very disruptive as the audience were like a baying mob wanting them gone! Hopefully we can get some first hand details on here. As far as I can tell they weren’t much worse than the usual but refused to leave and so it escalated to the point it took several police to convince them to leave. By the time they left I think the interval had hit 45 minutes so I think that was why the crowd were turning ugly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2023 20:22:18 GMT
Yep the two couples removed from Grease must have been very disruptive as the audience were like a baying mob wanting them gone! Hopefully we can get some first hand details on here. As far as I can tell they weren’t much worse than the usual but refused to leave and so it escalated to the point it took several police to convince them to leave. By the time they left I think the interval had hit 45 minutes so I think that was why the crowd were turning ugly Can't the police use "reasonable" force or are they too scared to do that now.
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Post by theatreghost on Aug 27, 2023 22:23:23 GMT
As far as I can tell they weren’t much worse than the usual but refused to leave and so it escalated to the point it took several police to convince them to leave. By the time they left I think the interval had hit 45 minutes so I think that was why the crowd were turning ugly Can't the police use "reasonable" force or are they too scared to do that now. Good question. From what I can tell, when they finally decided to use reasonable force the two couples realised the jig was up and got up. I don’t know what took the police quite so long
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Post by richey on Aug 28, 2023 10:45:17 GMT
I would have expected it at Grease... but not at The Crucible!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2023 15:32:12 GMT
Some patron trying to lay down the law to a Kings Council could have been interesting. Fights at classic plays now that is a new one. What next riot police called to the Scottish play?
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Post by NorthernAlien on Aug 28, 2023 18:01:39 GMT
I would have expected it at Grease... but not at The Crucible! "Do people not know how to behave socially anymore" I think the problem is... that they don't, actually. I'm no expert on this, but I suspect that the forced 12+months of everything 'social' being closed has actually resulted in people losing those social interaction skills that were otherwise learnt, and then refreshed on a regular basis, through interactions with others. The year or so when we had to sit in our houses, and only had zoom, or whatever, has led to us not knowing how to behave when in the presence of real, live, human beings, rather than people on the other side of a screen.
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Post by londonmzfitz on Aug 28, 2023 18:31:39 GMT
Jeremy Brier further tweeted = The couple who refused to get up ultimately had to - but proceeded to shower abuse at the people passing, yelling they'd fight one of them outside later & trying to trip them - & this was at The Crucible which (sorry if presumptuous!) one assumes might be a thoughtful crowd?!
I've said earlier in this thread I think it's a TikTok thing, a Twitter thing, where the go-to emotion is confrontation/anger. I don't think it's going to be long before tickets come with a "Rules of Behaviour" - which, honestly, I'd welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2023 19:47:55 GMT
ATG already send out a reminder on behaviour, but in all honesty the ones that need to read and abide by it are the ones that will ignore them and think the rules don't apply to them.
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Post by BVM on Aug 29, 2023 10:47:30 GMT
God this country is grotty. This simply does-not-happen at musicals in Germany and Austria. Even in the USA, which heaven knows has it’s own problems this would be vanishingly rare. I actually wanted to see this production of Grease but decided not to owing to the endless stories of bottom barrel binge Britain audiences. Grim!
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Post by Jon on Aug 29, 2023 11:04:55 GMT
God this country is grotty. This simply does-not-happen at musicals in Germany and Austria. Even in the USA, which heaven knows has it’s own problems this would be vanishingly rare. I actually wanted to see this production of Grease but decided not to owing to the endless stories of bottom barrel binge Britain audiences. Grim! TBH I don't think it's true that all British audiences are louts and the rest of the world is impeccably behaved, I'm sure there have been incidents around the world with bad behaving audiences.
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Post by BVM on Aug 29, 2023 11:13:17 GMT
God this country is grotty. This simply does-not-happen at musicals in Germany and Austria. Even in the USA, which heaven knows has it’s own problems this would be vanishingly rare. I actually wanted to see this production of Grease but decided not to owing to the endless stories of bottom barrel binge Britain audiences. Grim! TBH I don't think it's true that all British audiences are louts and the rest of the world is impeccably behaved, I'm sure there have been incidents around the world with bad behaving audiences. Of course there are always exceptions to general trends. Of course most audiences are fine in UK. But on the balance of probabilities. Your experience is FAR more likely to be ruined by bad audience behaviour in UK than the other countries I mention. Sometimes I get kids talking through Starlight in Bochum. That’s the worst I personally have experienced abroad.
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Post by sfsusan on Aug 29, 2023 20:53:45 GMT
The year or so when we had to sit in our houses, and only had zoom, or whatever, has led to us not knowing how to behave when in the presence of real, live, human beings, rather than people on the other side of a screen. I would accept that for the first 6 months or so after coming out of lockdown. But for anyone who knew/abided by the rules of behavior before... what's their excuse for not doing so after more than a year of normality? Personally, I think the lockdowns gave some folks the excuse to become entitled/self-absorbed, and people who have embraced that aren't going back to being considerate. I also think some of the things on social media that are meant to be self-affirming are being taken as license to "be your authentic self" even if that means being a jerk to everyone around you. Like people being rude and justifying it with "I calls 'em likes I sees 'em" or "sorry/not sorry".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2023 1:19:10 GMT
Very perceptive points Sfsusan - the worrying thing if everyone was their authentic self is that those with a "hatred" agenda may somehow feel justified.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 30, 2023 6:39:24 GMT
I blame Vanessa Feltz.
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Post by max on Aug 30, 2023 12:15:31 GMT
God this country is grotty. This simply does-not-happen at musicals in Germany and Austria. Even in the USA, which heaven knows has it’s own problems this would be vanishingly rare. I actually wanted to see this production of Grease but decided not to owing to the endless stories of bottom barrel binge Britain audiences. Grim! "Bottom Barrel Binge Britain" - Love it, there's a job for you as a headline writer (sadly for The Sun, but it would keep you in theatre tickets). Interesting points from others about Zoom during lockdown. I guess going to the Theatre may hold over that strange mix of people seeming to be professional and respectable on Zoom screen, but there's that snarky secret that they enjoy holding, that really they're sitting in their underpants. We're getting a lot of that 'wait til I stand up' behaviour.
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Post by mkb on Aug 30, 2023 12:34:27 GMT
Name any tv programme or film where the characters go to the cinema or theatre and are NOT shown having a conversation in the audience during the show. There is none.
This is what people take their cues from. Some can't separate fiction from real life, and they think this is acceptable behaviour.
Programmes like X-Factor are even worse. They actively encourage and show audience interaction mid-performance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2023 12:47:39 GMT
Shows like X-Factor, BGT, Strictly have been on our TVs for the best part of 20 years. THe audience sometimes applaude when the singer hits the first note or they vaguely recognise the song being butchered. A lot of the rowdiness is reacting to the judges comments and scores. THe likes of CRH and Simon Cowell to a lesser extent play up to the part of "the pantomine villian" but the late great Len Goodman would get annoyed when he was giving constructive feedback and was getting booed.
The same thing with Torvill and Dean on Dancing On Ice like Len they know way more about the performance aspects than the people "disagreeing" with their feedback. Maybe we see this in the rawest sense on BGT and X Factor when some deluded starlet has a meltdown when they hear a few home truths about their supposed "talent".
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Post by sph on Aug 30, 2023 13:00:28 GMT
Name any tv programme or film where the characters go to the cinema or theatre and are NOT shown having a conversation in the audience during the show. There is none. This is what people take their cues from. Some can't separate fiction from real life, and they think this is acceptable behaviour. Programmes like X-Factor are even worse. They actively encourage and show audience interaction mid-performance. That's a good point actually - characters in TV shows and movies are always talking in the theatre or cinema! There is definitely more of a focus on the rights and feelings of the individual nowadays, which is fine, but people seem to believe that this overrides the rules and etiquette of being part of a larger group. It sort of relates to the TV/movie example above. People believe that they are the "main character" and that everyone else in the room is a less important supporting player.
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Post by intoanewlife on Aug 30, 2023 14:59:28 GMT
Name any tv programme or film where the characters go to the cinema or theatre and are NOT shown having a conversation in the audience during the show. There is none. This is what people take their cues from. Some can't separate fiction from real life, and they think this is acceptable behaviour. Programmes like X-Factor are even worse. They actively encourage and show audience interaction mid-performance. There is definitely more of a focus on the rights and feelings of the individual nowadays, which is fine. Except it ISN'T fine. It's fine if what they are doing is only affecting 'them' they can do what they like, but when it effects others it most certainly isn't 'fine'.
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Post by marob on Aug 30, 2023 15:33:52 GMT
Puts me in mind of that Adele fan who went viral the other day. Filming himself and his frankly ridiculous reactions to seeing her (and in the process disrupting everyone around him.) Since seen a thing saying he doesn’t care because it’s his only chance to see her. Entitled little💩.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 30, 2023 17:23:05 GMT
Puts me in mind of that Adele fan who went viral the other day. Filming himself and his frankly ridiculous reactions to seeing her (and in the process disrupting everyone around him.) Since seen a thing saying he doesn’t care because it’s his only chance to see her. Entitled little💩. I read lots of comments about letting him stand and dance if he wanted to but I'm curious as to what Adele songs you would dance to? Aren't all her songs dreary ballads? On a similar note, years ago I went to see Glee in concert at the o2. Don't judge me! Anyway this very camp lad, probably about 16 years old and 2 female friends were in front of me and stood the whole time. If that wasn't bad enough he just screamed at the top of his voice for the whole show. I nearly resorted to violence.
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Post by intoanewlife on Aug 30, 2023 17:38:45 GMT
Puts me in mind of that Adele fan who went viral the other day. Filming himself and his frankly ridiculous reactions to seeing her (and in the process disrupting everyone around him.) Since seen a thing saying he doesn’t care because it’s his only chance to see her. Entitled little💩. He apparently had a 360 camera on a selfie stick which he was waving about. Her reaction was really stupid as well considering the amount of times she has thrown a tasty at people filming her instead of enjoying the show.
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Post by Jon on Aug 30, 2023 17:39:47 GMT
It does amuse me when people slag off the country they live in, if you hate it so much, why not move abroad? The grass isn’t always greener.
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