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Post by inthenose on Oct 22, 2022 23:33:47 GMT
Atrocious behaviour at Jersey Boys Manchester opera House tonight. Show stopped due to fights, drunken antics etc. Company manager had to take to the stage mid performance to appeal for good behaviour so that the show could continue. What is wrong with people!?! How soul destroying must this be for the cast? Astonishing!! Can you give any more details? What did you see?
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Post by dm913 on Oct 23, 2022 5:43:06 GMT
Last night at Dear Evan Hansen, lady near me whips out a nail file and starts filing away, rather ironically during Words Fail
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Post by crabtree on Oct 23, 2022 11:22:02 GMT
having lived in Manchester for five decades, that incident sadly doesn't surprise me, and why of late I've lost the Manchester theatre going habit.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 30, 2022 6:31:07 GMT
Interesting incident at the Bridge Theatre yesterday. Mid performance a lady mid/rear stalls gets up and says ‘you are the most despicable couple I have ever met’ to the couple behind and leaves. She got really close to their faces whilst saying this.
Wasn’t close enough to know why she was so upset with the middle aged couple who was sitting behind her. After the show all in the vicinity were sharing the ‘what was all that about’ shrug.
Simon Russell Beale’s performance on stage was uninterrupted.
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Post by andrew on Oct 30, 2022 11:06:51 GMT
I saw a new one for me, the lady next to me in stalls row E at Blues For An Alabama Sky chatting away for 20 minutes to her friend, then at 1435 the lights go down. Suddenly she goes for her handbag, gets her iPhone, and spends 2 minutes trying to do something with it. Then, the reason I'm posting this, because I was so appalled, she turned the TORCH ON, held her phone right up to her face so she could find the silence switch, flips it, then casually spends a few more seconds closing some apps before turning the torch off and putting the phone in her bag. She was literally lighting up the heads of the people in front, it was insane. THE TORCH!!!
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Post by Jane Parfitt on Oct 30, 2022 14:36:28 GMT
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Post by ptwest on Nov 6, 2022 17:17:38 GMT
Mamma Mia at Sheffield last night: proof that gangs of middle aged women + lots of alcohol + theatre are not a good mix. Full marks to the team at the theatre for dealing with it as well as they did but they had their work cut out. Special mention to the classy lady who stuck fingers up at the team when everyone did get up out of their seats towards the end. Classy.
I should also report one or two of the cast for the damage inflicted to the Abba songs too.
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Post by nick on Nov 7, 2022 9:27:46 GMT
I get nervous doing a standing ovation if very few others around me are (I have anxiety and the idea of someone behind me snapping at me that they can’t see I would make me want to die) - but I’d probably get the opposite in this situation. Being the only person to NOT stand up would make me more self conscious even if I didn’t enjoy the show! I can’t imagine the lack of self awareness / care these two audience members had. I wont defend the stony faces and lack of applause but, self aware or not, there are people who cannot stand for an ovation. My wife is one and I stay sat with her. It can be embarrassing but necessary and we will applaud albeit gently.
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Post by mkb on Nov 7, 2022 12:01:17 GMT
Is it seriously being suggested that you should feel obliged to applaud something that was unremittingly awful? I certainly wouldn't, and have done so. Similarly, if you've had a bad meal in a restaurant, should you simply feign contentment?
Clapping something you don't actually like, far from being polite, is hypocrisy and devalues genuine praise. It reminds me of that complaining couple in Fawlty Towers who, when asked by Basil, lie that everything is fine.
I've been at some shows so bad that I thought that everyone involved owed me an apology for wasting my time and taking my money. Of course, if a show is merely poor, and the cast have tried their hardest, then I'll clap where it's due.
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Post by inthenose on Nov 7, 2022 12:07:20 GMT
Is it seriously being suggested that you should feel obliged to applaud something that was unremittingly awful? I certainly wouldn't, and have done so. Similarly, if you've had a bad meal in a restaurant, should you simply feign contentment? Clapping something you don't actually like, far from being polite, is hypocrisy and devalues genuine praise. It reminds me of that complaining couple in Fawlty Towers who, when asked by Basil, lie that everything is fine. I've been at some shows so bad that I thought that everyone involved owed me an apology for wasting my time and taking my money. Of course, if a show is merely poor, and the cast have tried their hardest, then I'll clap where it's due. I didn’t clap at Legally Blonde at the OAT. In fact I got up and left. Genuinely wanted an apology, and I was there on a complimentary ticket.
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Post by mkb on Nov 7, 2022 12:14:23 GMT
At the Garrick yesterday, I was in the last (fifth) row of the Dress Circle next to a gentleman in a wheelchair in the central space reserved for that. I thought it was poor that he missed the finale of the show because of people ovating in the rows in front.
I see the problem though. If the people in row D had remained seated, they would have missed it too. It required all four rows in front to be aware of the situation and show some self-restraint. Perhaps some notices on those seats from the theatre when the wheelchair position is in use would not go amiss?
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 7, 2022 14:57:30 GMT
The easiest thing is if theatres just put wheelchair spaces at the front, which okay is a challenge with older theatres, but in cases like the Bridge that was custom built as new yet the wheelchair spaces are right at the back in the circle, it’s just not good enough.
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Post by sph on Nov 7, 2022 15:56:02 GMT
At the Garrick yesterday, I was in the last (fifth) row of the Dress Circle next to a gentleman in a wheelchair in the central space reserved for that. I thought it was poor that he missed the finale of the show because of people ovating in the rows in front. I see the problem though. If the people in row D had remained seated, they would have missed it too. It required all four rows in front to be aware of the situation and show some self-restraint. Perhaps some notices on those seats from the theatre when the wheelchair position is in use would not go amiss? I think it's a bit impractical to tell audiences that they have to stay seated during a standing ovation because of who may be sat behind them. It's an unfortunate circumstance but we can't police everything I'm afraid. I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Nov 7, 2022 17:17:01 GMT
At the Garrick yesterday, I was in the last (fifth) row of the Dress Circle next to a gentleman in a wheelchair in the central space reserved for that. I thought it was poor that he missed the finale of the show because of people ovating in the rows in front. I see the problem though. If the people in row D had remained seated, they would have missed it too. It required all four rows in front to be aware of the situation and show some self-restraint. Perhaps some notices on those seats from the theatre when the wheelchair position is in use would not go amiss? I'm afraid that standing ovations are part of the modern selfishness. *I* want to leap to my feet and imagine I'm participating in something with those folk on the stage, and I don't give a d*** about the folk behind me, whether they want to stand or not, whether they can stand or not. I am so very, very special, you see.
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Post by n1david on Nov 7, 2022 17:22:17 GMT
I'm afraid that standing ovations are part of the modern selfishness. Given that the first recorded standing ovation happened at the premiere of Handel's Messiah in 1743, calling it modern selfishness is pushing it a bit..
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Post by nick on Nov 7, 2022 17:24:41 GMT
I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation. This is true. It's bad enough not being able to stand - preventing other people would be worse. It's a mild inconvenience not being able to see but it rarely happens until the very end so not a big deal.
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Post by inthenose on Nov 7, 2022 20:18:56 GMT
I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation. This is true. It's bad enough not being able to stand - preventing other people would be worse. It's a mild inconvenience not being able to see but it rarely happens until the very end so not a big deal. My best friend was a wheelchair user and we had one issue across about 40 shows in town and fringe. The trains, on the other hand, despite booking assistance in advance - shameful. Issues more than half of the time. We saw one show and had such a bad time of it*, they invited us back and gave us VIP treatment. I’d say most venues (in my own experience, not everybody’s before people start crowing) are very disability aware in recent years and the service is generally excellent. *this was a long runner at a top show in town, it turned out two of their four dedicated staff for people needing additional assistance were off. A mix up meant we had nobody helping us and had a miserable time, were brought in late at the rear of the stalls and she (under 4ft) couldn’t see anything. Left after 30 minutes. They couldn’t have been more apologetic, free tickets, travel, drinks, programme, brochure and voucher for the merchandise stand, plus a dedicated “butler” for the night and was offered to meet the cast. She declined the backstage thing, as all she wanted was the same experience as everyone else in the first place. I’m not naming as the venue as they recognised a huge flaw in their processes and how upset she was, and did everything in their power to fix it - and did.
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Post by Jan on Nov 7, 2022 21:00:34 GMT
I accidentally sat in row AA then after the show realised my ticket was for row A the other week. The theatre was pretty empty to it was fine. I’ve gone and sat in the right seat but in the wrong theatre. Had an Olivier ticket and gone and sat in the Lyttelton. The ushers let me in no problem, didn’t notice at all. I sat there for quite a while till I noticed that the set didn’t really make much sense for what I was supposed to be seeing.
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Post by Dawnstar on Nov 7, 2022 22:42:13 GMT
I've just seen this retweeted by the POTO Twitter account. I can't decide if it's bad behaviour or amusing enough to get away with it.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Nov 8, 2022 9:13:39 GMT
I'm afraid that standing ovations are part of the modern selfishness. Given that the first recorded standing ovation happened at the premiere of Handel's Messiah in 1743, calling it modern selfishness is pushing it a bit.. Really? Wasn't that something different, nanmely, standing for the Hallelujah! Chorus? Yes, there have always been standing ovations for the truly, truly exceptional. But the modern fad for them, where people go to the theatre looking forward to participating in standing ovations, regarding their own applause as part of the show, seems to owe a lot to those TV talent shows, where producers get audiences to stand because it looks awfully good on TV, a whole audience rising to its feet. I think some people are nowe getting the idea that if yuou applaud, you've got to stand to do it. Really, though, there is precious little moral difference between people rising to their feet to applaud, thus blocking the view of the finale and bows for the people behind, and (to mention something that annoys a lot of people on this board) a drunken hen party singing along and waving their arms and so forth.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Nov 8, 2022 9:20:44 GMT
At the Garrick yesterday, I was in the last (fifth) row of the Dress Circle next to a gentleman in a wheelchair in the central space reserved for that. I thought it was poor that he missed the finale of the show because of people ovating in the rows in front. I see the problem though. If the people in row D had remained seated, they would have missed it too. It required all four rows in front to be aware of the situation and show some self-restraint. Perhaps some notices on those seats from the theatre when the wheelchair position is in use would not go amiss? I think it's a bit impractical to tell audiences that they have to stay seated during a standing ovation because of who may be sat behind them. It's an unfortunate circumstance but we can't police everything I'm afraid. I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation. "I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation." In fact, I am sure that all wheelchair-users absolutely hate it when any consideration at all is shown for them and would be much happier if, for instance, if organisations didn't feel they had to provide ramps or lifts for access, dedicated parking facilities, and so forth. They are much more comfortable being disadvantaged. So that's all right, then.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Nov 8, 2022 15:25:36 GMT
My gentleman friend was very pleased there wasn't a standing ovation at South Pacific. We were at the front of the circle, and he really doesn't like heights, just getting to the seats and out again was a bit touch and go!
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Post by stevemar on Nov 8, 2022 17:41:49 GMT
I’ve gone and sat in the right seat but in the wrong theatre. Had an Olivier ticket and gone and sat in the Lyttelton. The ushers let me in no problem, didn’t notice at all. I sat there for quite a while till I noticed that the set didn’t really make much sense for what I was supposed to be seeing. Oops, the best example I’ve seen of this was also at the Lyttelton where two audience members were chatting away until the show started. Once it started and 5 minutes passed, there was an exclamation of surprise as they realised they were at the wrong show. Quite a struggle for them to get out from the narrow stalls seats at the front. If I recall correctly, the clue as to the show was there all along as before the show there was a safety curtain with huge words “Wuthering Heights” all across it.
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Post by sph on Nov 9, 2022 2:33:40 GMT
I think it's a bit impractical to tell audiences that they have to stay seated during a standing ovation because of who may be sat behind them. It's an unfortunate circumstance but we can't police everything I'm afraid. I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation. "I also suspect that many theatregoers who use wheelchairs would feel terribly uncomfortable if it was made to seem that their presence was preventing a standing ovation." In fact, I am sure that all wheelchair-users absolutely hate it when any consideration at all is shown for them and would be much happier if, for instance, if organisations didn't feel they had to provide ramps or lifts for access, dedicated parking facilities, and so forth. They are much more comfortable being disadvantaged. So that's all right, then. My goodness! What an awful amount of effort you put into twisting my words there! No doubt a day well spent. There is, of course, a great difference between providing lifts and ramps to accommodate a theatregoer in a wheelchair, and instructing other audience members that they must not stand in the event of a standing ovation just in case they block someone's view. Not only that, it is also impossible to police. In the middle of a loud standing ovation at the end of a particularly lively show I would not like to be the usher in charge of telling everyone to sit down.
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Post by steve10086 on Nov 9, 2022 7:08:07 GMT
Really, though, there is precious little moral difference between people rising to their feet to applaud, thus blocking the view of the finale and bows for the people behind, and (to mention something that annoys a lot of people on this board) a drunken hen party singing along and waving their arms and so forth. What a ridiculous statement.
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