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Post by stuartmcd on Jul 23, 2022 22:16:03 GMT
Seems like things got a bit wild at We Will Rock You tonight
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jul 24, 2022 3:14:35 GMT
I feel rather sorry for her. Putting on an entertainment event is a lot of work, licences, insurance, health and safety provision, rehearsals, accompanying band etc. We can all make a list. She clearly has no idea and thinks if you book a room and some musicians, you have a concert. Probably her dream concert, but she doesn't seem to have considered such little things as where the performers will change (well, she may expect them to sit in the audience with her) or that they might like to be paid. The event obviously can't go ahead, but I hope people can let her down gently. She seems to have taken it really well.... I honestly feel really sad for people like that. There are a lot of people who dedicate their lives to trying to meet or get close to celebrities, I guess for attention or validation or because there’s something lacking in their lives. There are a few infamous fans in the theatre world who seem to spend every waking moment chasing celebs or hanging around stage doors (more than regular stage door-ers), or pulling crazy stunts to pretend they’re well-connected. I looked at this woman’s Twitter and her most recent tweet was about trying to sign up to some service where for £30 a month you get news on celeb film screenings and red carpet access. That’s a heck of a lot of money just for the chance to see celebs. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 24, 2022 8:26:55 GMT
This woman sounds vulnerable if I'm to be honest.
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Post by Rozzi Rainbow on Jul 25, 2022 12:41:15 GMT
Seems like things got a bit wild at We Will Rock You tonight Yes, I've just come here to post about this. I haven't been reading this thread lately, but I remember before the pandemic it was mostly audiences talking or playing on their phones etc. Well on Saturday night at WWRY in Birmingham we had a show stop about halfway into the second half because a fight broke out at the back of the stalls!! Ironically, it was just after Don't Stop Me Now! Before I realised what was happening the cast had all walked off stage and the house lights had come on. I didn't know at the time what was happening as I was safely away from it all at the end of the front row. Apparently one of the people involved was very intoxicated, and at one point had crashed into the sound booth! The show director, I think it was, was talking to us at the stage door afterwards, and he said that since the pandemic they'd noticed a change in audiences being more rowdy. It's like they've lost all notion of how to interact with each other!! The show stopped for about five minutes while it got sorted, and then the announcement said "The Show Must Go On" and it did! |
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Post by sarahnewington on Jul 25, 2022 18:18:41 GMT
I had a family behind me at Pretty Woman on Friday with who I presume were their two young daughters - around 5 and 7. The mother spent the first half loudly telling them both to close their eyes every time there was any kissing/changing etc, with both the girls shouting “EWWWW!” throughout. The parents then spent a good chunk of time discussing how inappropriate and unnecessary it all was. I mean, surely when you chose to to see Pretty Woman, you had a vague idea of the storyline?! I was quite glad they didn’t return after the interval.
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Post by lynette on Jul 25, 2022 22:37:44 GMT
I had a family behind me at Pretty Woman on Friday with who I presume were their two young daughters - around 5 and 7. The mother spent the first half loudly telling them both to close their eyes every time there was any kissing/changing etc, with both the girls shouting “EWWWW!” throughout. The parents then spent a good chunk of time discussing how inappropriate and unnecessary it all was. I mean, surely when you chose to to see Pretty Woman, you had a vague idea of the storyline?! I was quite glad they didn’t return after the interval. How odd people are. Do you think they thought it was about pretty women? ( repeat of anecdote about my OH’s grandma and auntie who thought they were going to see travelogue about Scotland : Bonnie and Clyde. |
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Post by sph on Jul 25, 2022 22:50:29 GMT
I had a family behind me at Pretty Woman on Friday with who I presume were their two young daughters - around 5 and 7. The mother spent the first half loudly telling them both to close their eyes every time there was any kissing/changing etc, with both the girls shouting “EWWWW!” throughout. The parents then spent a good chunk of time discussing how inappropriate and unnecessary it all was. I mean, surely when you chose to to see Pretty Woman, you had a vague idea of the storyline?! I was quite glad they didn’t return after the interval. I do think there's a subset of tourists who go to the theatre thinking that the word "musical" basically means all-round family entertainment. They arrive in London and shows look like Disneyland attractions to an outsider. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 25, 2022 23:02:21 GMT
I can't believe they didn't do a shred of research, just a quick look at Wikipedia would give him an idea what Pretty Woman was about.
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Post by sweets7 on Jul 27, 2022 10:25:02 GMT
She seems to have taken it really well.... I honestly feel really sad for people like that. There are a lot of people who dedicate their lives to trying to meet or get close to celebrities, I guess for attention or validation or because there’s something lacking in their lives. There are a few infamous fans in the theatre world who seem to spend every waking moment chasing celebs or hanging around stage doors (more than regular stage door-ers), or pulling crazy stunts to pretend they’re well-connected. I looked at this woman’s Twitter and her most recent tweet was about trying to sign up to some service where for £30 a month you get news on celeb film screenings and red carpet access. That’s a heck of a lot of money just for the chance to see celebs. It makes me really sad too and I really feel for her. And then you think of yourself because I once was early for some show or other and I think that I randomly hung out in a pub with a clear view of stage door. I was so excited to see some of the performers arriving. Probably better then the show. We all get excited by things like this but even to be a stage door goer for me would be too much. I would lurk in the shadows like some oddity because way to shy to ask for autograph or anything. Always pretend not to recognise any celebrities when I encounter them. Once sat next to Hattie Morahan at the theatre…frozen to the spot and then she got up to chat to Juliet Rylance in the aisle and I wanted to dig a hole. That isn’t strictly normal either. Don’t get me started on when Murpurgo was at War Horse when I was there and kept coming back to chat to people he knew in row behind me. My name dropping is stopping. But yes I feel for this lady immensely. Life is so tough and we all have our ways of escaping…some healthier than others. And with the internet these days it is so easy to traverse boundaries. I mean you have to feel for people. I have read numerous stalking issues in papers recently. I mean two seconds and you could find where they live. Must be very scary at times. |
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Post by frappuccino on Jul 28, 2022 9:40:08 GMT
I honestly feel really sad for people like that. There are a lot of people who dedicate their lives to trying to meet or get close to celebrities, I guess for attention or validation or because there’s something lacking in their lives. There are a few infamous fans in the theatre world who seem to spend every waking moment chasing celebs or hanging around stage doors (more than regular stage door-ers), or pulling crazy stunts to pretend they’re well-connected. I looked at this woman’s Twitter and her most recent tweet was about trying to sign up to some service where for £30 a month you get news on celeb film screenings and red carpet access. That’s a heck of a lot of money just for the chance to see celebs. It makes me really sad too and I really feel for her. And then you think of yourself because I once was early for some show or other and I think that I randomly hung out in a pub with a clear view of stage door. I was so excited to see some of the performers arriving. Probably better then the show. We all get excited by things like this but even to be a stage door goer for me would be too much. I would lurk in the shadows like some oddity because way to shy to ask for autograph or anything. Always pretend not to recognise any celebrities when I encounter them. Once sat next to Hattie Morahan at the theatre…frozen to the spot and then she got up to chat to Juliet Rylance in the aisle and I wanted to dig a hole. That isn’t strictly normal either. Don’t get me started on when Murpurgo was at War Horse when I was there and kept coming back to chat to people he knew in row behind me. My name dropping is stopping. But yes I feel for this lady immensely. Life is so tough and we all have our ways of escaping…some healthier than others. And with the internet these days it is so easy to traverse boundaries. I mean you have to feel for people. I have read numerous stalking issues in papers recently. I mean two seconds and you could find where they live. Must be very scary at times. Yes, many people know Alan Rickman's house address (before and after his death). But none of the fans I know would ever knock on his door. He told Kevin Smith that him and Ralph Fiennes lived in the same apartment block in NY and he was scared if the Harry Potter fans find out-they would storm the building. Kevin Smith only disclosed this after Alan died, and since then his widow has sold the property. |
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Post by digne on Jul 28, 2022 16:12:34 GMT
She seems to have taken it really well.... I honestly feel really sad for people like that. There are a lot of people who dedicate their lives to trying to meet or get close to celebrities, I guess for attention or validation or because there’s something lacking in their lives. There are a few infamous fans in the theatre world who seem to spend every waking moment chasing celebs or hanging around stage doors (more than regular stage door-ers), or pulling crazy stunts to pretend they’re well-connected. I looked at this woman’s Twitter and her most recent tweet was about trying to sign up to some service where for £30 a month you get news on celeb film screenings and red carpet access. That’s a heck of a lot of money just for the chance to see celebs. Oh dear, I actually know her... A few years ago she was always at all events and shows of one of my favourite actors and had befriended a friend of mine, so we got talking in a queue and she added me on Facebook. From all of her talk and her photos on Facebook I genuinely thought she was good friends with Michael Ball, Ramin Karimloo etc... She'd constantly talk about talking to them, gifts she'd given them, go talk to their wives and friends and she'd post photos on Facebook of having met one of them at an event at least 3 or 4 times a week.
I remember that after that first encounter I told my friend that I'm always a bit leary of people who believe they are friends with actors they like, and she assured me that Lesley really is close with all those people. From all of this, I now think that people like Ramin, Michael Ball etc must have simply been very, very polite...
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 28, 2022 17:24:50 GMT
I honestly feel really sad for people like that. There are a lot of people who dedicate their lives to trying to meet or get close to celebrities, I guess for attention or validation or because there’s something lacking in their lives. There are a few infamous fans in the theatre world who seem to spend every waking moment chasing celebs or hanging around stage doors (more than regular stage door-ers), or pulling crazy stunts to pretend they’re well-connected. I looked at this woman’s Twitter and her most recent tweet was about trying to sign up to some service where for £30 a month you get news on celeb film screenings and red carpet access. That’s a heck of a lot of money just for the chance to see celebs. Oh dear, I actually know her... A few years ago she was always at all events and shows of one of my favourite actors and had befriended a friend of mine, so we got talking in a queue and she added me on Facebook. From all of her talk and her photos on Facebook I genuinely thought she was good friends with Michael Ball, Ramin Karimloo etc... She'd constantly talk about talking to them, gifts she'd given them, go talk to their wives and friends and she'd post photos on Facebook of having met one of them at an event at least 3 or 4 times a week.
I remember that after that first encounter I told my friend that I'm always a bit leary of people who believe they are friends with actors they like, and she assured me that Lesley really is close with all those people. From all of this, I now think that people like Ramin, Michael Ball etc must have simply been very, very polite...
I saw a repeat of Michael Ball on room 101 recently. He was putting cuddly toy gifts into room 101 given by fans. He was talking to Lesley wasn’t he. Similar note a girl pin my school advertised a Chesney Hawks fan club in smash hits when you are the one and only was at the top of the hit parade. Chesney’s management company were all for taking her to court but I think they backed out when there was no takers for this official fans club |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jul 28, 2022 18:37:18 GMT
I don’t really know why it’s so common for fans to give cuddly toys to adult male celebs. How many grown men want cuddly toys?
Yes, mistaking politeness for friendship is common. I read a beautiful story recently about a young man with Down Syndrome who had a close friendship with a photo of Chris Eccleston that meant a lot to him and clearly enriched his life, and when he met Chris in person, Chris was very kind and treated him as a friend. That’s the wholesome end of parasocial relationships.
It’s hard to judge because often you see fans behaving in a way where maybe there’s mental health or neurodivergence, or just not grasping boundaries. On the flipside, fans who show off on social media about how many celebs they’ve met clearly know what they’re doing. I know one infamous stage doorer who convinced everyone she’s good friends with a theatre “name” who in reality tried to get a restraining order against her, and the same fan previously stalked Tom Hiddleston to the point he snapped and called her a stalker in front of a huge group of fans. I believe there’s video of it on Tumblr.
The downside of live theatre is fans knowing when and where you’ll be!
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Post by Jon on Jul 28, 2022 18:43:53 GMT
I don’t really know why it’s so common for fans to give cuddly toys to adult male celebs. How many grown men want cuddly toys? Yes, mistaking politeness for friendship is common. I read a beautiful story recently about a young man with Down Syndrome who had a close friendship with a photo of Chris Eccleston that meant a lot to him and clearly enriched his life, and when he met Chris in person, Chris was very kind and treated him as a friend. That’s the wholesome end of parasocial relationships. It’s hard to judge because often you see fans behaving in a way where maybe there’s mental health or neurodivergence, or just not grasping boundaries. On the flipside, fans who show off on social media about how many celebs they’ve met clearly know what they’re doing. I know one infamous stage doorer who convinced everyone she’s good friends with a theatre “name” who in reality tried to get a restraining order against her, and the same fan previously stalked Tom Hiddleston to the point he snapped and called her a stalker in front of a huge group of fans. I believe there’s video of it on Tumblr. The downside of live theatre is fans knowing when and where you’ll be! There's a very thin line between fan and stalker as many people in the public eye have found to their discomfort. Daniel Radcliffe and James McAvoy told various stories on Graham Norton about not so polite fans: |
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Post by longinthetooth on Jul 28, 2022 20:23:54 GMT
I once knew a fan of Ramin who joined his wife's Zumba class - on the opposite side of London - just because ...
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Post by sweets7 on Jul 28, 2022 22:56:38 GMT
I don’t really know why it’s so common for fans to give cuddly toys to adult male celebs. How many grown men want cuddly toys? Yes, mistaking politeness for friendship is common. I read a beautiful story recently about a young man with Down Syndrome who had a close friendship with a photo of Chris Eccleston that meant a lot to him and clearly enriched his life, and when he met Chris in person, Chris was very kind and treated him as a friend. That’s the wholesome end of parasocial relationships. It’s hard to judge because often you see fans behaving in a way where maybe there’s mental health or neurodivergence, or just not grasping boundaries. On the flipside, fans who show off on social media about how many celebs they’ve met clearly know what they’re doing. I know one infamous stage doorer who convinced everyone she’s good friends with a theatre “name” who in reality tried to get a restraining order against her, and the same fan previously stalked Tom Hiddleston to the point he snapped and called her a stalker in front of a huge group of fans. I believe there’s video of it on Tumblr. The downside of live theatre is fans knowing when and where you’ll be! There's a very thin line between fan and stalker as many people in the public eye have found to their discomfort. Daniel Radcliffe and James McAvoy told various stories on Graham Norton about not so polite fans: It’s that thing isn’t it that because people are on the radio, TV, cinema, stage people tend to think they know them. Like in anyones wildest dream you wouldn’t tell someone they were your free pass but because you ‘know’ them you just carry on a conversation with them like you’ve always known them and they are just a bit perplexed because you are a total stranger. You must have to have the thickest skin all the time. . |
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Post by sweets7 on Jul 28, 2022 22:57:00 GMT
longinthetooth Avatar Jul 28, 2022 21:23:54 GMT 1 longinthetooth said: I once knew a fan of Ramin who joined his wife's Zumba class - on the opposite side of London - just because ... Strangely I can see that kind of think, joining a class etc, happening a lot. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 29, 2022 14:18:23 GMT
I don’t really know why it’s so common for fans to give cuddly toys to adult male celebs. How many grown men want cuddly toys? Ask the Tour de France, who hand out cuddly toy lions to their (adult male) winners! Goodness knows what the cyclists who don't have kids are supposed to do with them. |
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Post by digne on Jul 29, 2022 15:46:58 GMT
I looked at her twitter and apparently the same thing happened in 2019, only back then the Theatre Cafe hadn't even been booked...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 29, 2022 16:57:28 GMT
Not sure I’m super comfortable about having an ongoing discussion about this individual and their motivations. Could we move the chat along now so something where individuals can’t be identified please?
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Post by sweets7 on Jul 29, 2022 20:16:15 GMT
I don’t really know why it’s so common for fans to give cuddly toys to adult male celebs. How many grown men want cuddly toys? Ask the Tour de France, who hand out cuddly toy lions to their (adult male) winners! Goodness knows what the cyclists who don't have kids are supposed to do with them. Auction them for charity. Give to hospitals. It’s what ice skaters used to do anyhow. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 29, 2022 20:56:57 GMT
Thinking back to Wicked, Rachel Tucker and that microwave…
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Post by LaLuPone on Jul 29, 2022 21:18:38 GMT
Not to mention Jacqueline “Jax” Hughes and her nutella.
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Post by sweets7 on Jul 29, 2022 22:42:26 GMT
Now I need to know both
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Post by inthenose on Jul 30, 2022 4:36:05 GMT
Middle-aged male Doctor Who fans in fedoras with neckbeards giving toy daleks and the like to Peter Davison at Spamalot. Must be a very common thing for people who work/worked in popular science fiction franchises. They usually smelled bad, too.
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