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Post by duncan on Oct 8, 2019 10:33:25 GMT
I don't clap because I physically cant without inflicting major pain on my hands.
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Post by tysilio2 on Oct 8, 2019 12:35:23 GMT
Do we need a separate thread about people who are too Cr+p to Clap? It's not just rude it goes against the whole Theatre tradition and even the purpose of going to a live event. Disagree. Twice in over 30 years I've not applauded at the end of a performance because they were, to quote you, "too Cr+p to Clap." Many seem to have moved on to "standing ovation" as the primary recognition of a performance, but some of us are still traditionalists. A light round of applause, enthusiastic applause, a slow-handclap, or leaving the stage to the sound of thier own footsteps still works for us. Out of interest, which two?
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Post by poster J on Oct 8, 2019 13:28:29 GMT
I sometimes don't applaud at the end of a musical number in a musical if I don't think it's merited.
If I really disliked the show but didnt leave at the interval I'll applaud a bit at the end out of politeness if I'm unable to make a quick escape without disturbing anyone. But I won't be enthusiastic about it.
Turning it the other way, I really hate when people applaud between movements of a symphony - you are not meant to, it ruins the immersion in the moment and it is hugely distracting. I wish they made an announcement at the Proms to tell people not to do it, as usually only about half of the audience knows not to.
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Post by Xanderl on Oct 8, 2019 14:04:29 GMT
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Post by vickyg on Oct 9, 2019 8:36:53 GMT
Last night at Waitress the couple next to me were texting throughout the second half and at one point the guy (next to me) TOOK A CALL. I leant around and said 'are you serious? can you put that away?' and he did but continued to text. There wasn't a single member of staff around and as we were the three people at the end of the row it would have been very easy to reach them. They must have been visible from the stage as they were lit up like beacons. I just don't understand how people think that's acceptable.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Oct 9, 2019 9:00:42 GMT
Do we need a separate thread about people who are too Cr+p to Clap? It's not just rude it goes against the whole Theatre tradition and even the purpose of going to a live event. (I've posted before about a special place in hell for those who move to the aisles as soon as the performance ends as they are too important to file out as they should. In my experience they are always non clappers) I'll start David Mellor Hackney Empire 07 10 2019. (I'm worried that if 'celebrities can get away with such treatment it will become increasingly fashionable) Perhaps some people don't clap because the show wasn't very good.
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Post by Mr Snow on Oct 9, 2019 10:56:50 GMT
Well I didn't expect this to be contentious at all.
Fully support your right not to clap if you don't think its worth it and I appreciate that there are people for whom it creates physical problems.
Perhaps I over simplified in my attempt to create a'punchline' but...
The incident that sparked this off was on a night where myself and another poster in the Opera section felt it deserved high praise. I can see that others might have found it a waste of of their time...but that was not the case of the vast majority....
Is it (only) me that sees an increasing no of rude theatre goes who the moment the performance finishes, start to make for the door. Doesn't matter where they sit they want out and you better let them. The rest of us mugs can be busy showing the traditional communal thanks and they can get a swift exit while disrupting others and killing the buzz.
Maybe I'm just unlucky, but it seems increasingly prevalent and just another example of selfish behaviour. I will now move my one man campaign to my sidebar.
Have a nice day everyone!
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Post by 49thand8th on Oct 9, 2019 14:03:10 GMT
I'm almost never going to get mad about a fellow audience member's LACK of noise.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Oct 9, 2019 15:48:12 GMT
Is it (only) me that sees an increasing no of rude theatre goes who the moment the performance finishes, start to make for the door. Doesn't matter where they sit they want out and you better let them ... it seems increasingly prevalent and just another example of selfish behaviour. Perhaps they have last buses or trains to catch. Half a century ago i used to live on the outskirts of Luton and go to theatre in London. It was often a problem, rushing to catch the last train that stopped at my local station.
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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 9, 2019 17:51:13 GMT
The incident that sparked this off was on a night where myself and another poster in the Opera section felt it deserved high praise. I can see that others might have found it a waste of of their time...but that was not the case of the vast majority.... Is it (only) me that sees an increasing no of rude theatre goes who the moment the performance finishes, start to make for the door. Doesn't matter where they sit they want out and you better let them. The rest of us mugs can be busy showing the traditional communal thanks and they can get a swift exit while disrupting others and killing the buzz. If the rapid exits were also witnessed at the opera then it might be because of late end times. I had to dash out at the start of the curtain calls twice at the ROH towards the end of the last season because both pieces, Billy Budd & Le Nozze di Figaro, didn't finish until about 10.45pm. I don't like having to skip curtain calls but it meant I got home at "only" about half past midnight rather than 1am. There was a fair amount of internet discussion at the time about the late end times - especially for Billy Budd where all performances were on weeknights - and people having to dash out in order to get trains home. If theatres want people to stay for the curtain calls then they need to get the curtain down at a reasonable time for non-Londoners who have to get home afterwards.
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Post by lynette on Oct 9, 2019 18:32:16 GMT
Even an opera, if it goes past 10.30 it is self indulgent. We all know that.
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Post by Dr Tom on Oct 10, 2019 7:50:49 GMT
Mountview last night on a paid ticket for Romeo and Juliet in their new theatre.
It was one of those minimalistic and stylised performances, almost all the parts played by men in white, many with broad regional accents. A group of people sat behind me decided to take it on themselves to liven up the performances by agreeing to laugh loudly at inappropriate places (I believe they held up a crucifix). This turned out to be the vast majority of Juliet's lines, as well as those by the Nurse and several other characters, but few of Romeo's. It must have happened 100 times, as if by clockwork.
Based on the discussion, I presume they were other Mountview students, almost certainly on musical theatre, as during the interval they decided to put down one of the students they were rehearsing with (who wasn't there).
This was all presumably some attempt to make those on stage corpse, but it was excruciating. The only person they succeeded in making laugh was the Friar. Although some of the staging choices did deserve laughter, such as having Juliet appear on the balcony with a toothbrush in her mouth.
The second half, the laughing largely stopped, so I presume someone quite rightly complained and the students were told about their behaviour. The only continued bad behaviour was one of them kicking my chair hard and, I presume, resting their feet on the top of the seat (I could either feel toes or fingers). Had it been a less intimate and obvious setting, I would have turned around.
I've been to a lot of students productions and never had an experience like that. Totally ruined the show; Romeo and Juliet is not usually thought of as a comedy. Presumably, the people involved don't want a career in acting, as it's just the type of behaviour that would get them blacklisted from the industry. I'm all for people enjoying themselves, but I hope Mountview has a good look at how it communicates professional expectations to students.
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Post by hitmewithurbethshot on Oct 10, 2019 8:31:30 GMT
Granted I've never been at a performance of Grease where the audience have behaved well but this takes the cake Talking, singing along, texting with their phone screens at full brightness, one baby crying on and off (who brings a baby to the theatre?), one man shouted "we love you Peter!" while Peter Andre was singing Beauty School Dropout, and 2 women started having a loud argument mid act 2.
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Post by firefingers on Oct 10, 2019 13:46:13 GMT
I hope Mountview has a good look at how it communicates professional expectations to students I'd report them to the school. No doubt the school already knows who they are, but a public complaint may well provide an extra kick to the one they are going to give anyway. Yes do report it back. They probably won't discipline people directly if they aren't repeat offenders but with certainly notify students how to behave. I've worked with Mountview and they are pretty on it on what is expected of their students in my experience.
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Post by longinthetooth on Oct 10, 2019 20:31:07 GMT
Oh boy, they were at it at the matinee of Priscilla at Wimbledon. Four loud people (two couples) sitting behind me - declared their intent the moment they sat down. They were going to sing and dance and they did. One woman was up dancing in the aisle before the interval. Fortunately the music drowned out most of their off key singing (why do people who insist on singing at shows always have terrible voices?), but I glimpsed plenty of arm waving. They started dancing in the second half, but thankfully FOH told them to sit down. As there were four of them and only one of me, I'm afraid chickened out of saying anything. I felt sorry for the people sitting behind them.
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Post by lynette on Oct 11, 2019 9:21:29 GMT
What we need is a wall. A fourth wall 🤪
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 9:51:12 GMT
Not really bad behaviour but a slightly funny moment in Prism at Birmingham Rep last night. When Robert Lindsay first appeared a couple broke out into enthusiastic applause and then suddenly stopped when they realised they were the only ones clapping.
I've never known what is the etiquette to applaud a well known or acclaimed performer when they first appear. My thoughts are it should only really be in a comedy and it should not be if they are on stage at the start of the play. It would be when a Lady Bracknell or Madame Arcati type character enters.
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Post by Sam on Oct 11, 2019 10:02:11 GMT
Not really bad behaviour but a slightly funny moment in Prism at Birmingham Rep last night. When Robert Lindsay first appeared a couple broke out into enthusiastic applause and then suddenly stopped when they realised they were the only ones clapping. I've never known what is the etiquette to applaud a well known or acclaimed performer when they first appear. My thoughts are it should only really be in a comedy and it should not be if they are on stage at the start of the play. It would be when a Lady Bracknell or Madame Arcati type character enters. From what I've heard its an American thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 14:12:27 GMT
The American sitcoms have it going back to when Fonz appeared on Happy Days. But there has often been polite applause in UK Theatres along these lines for several years. I can recall it for James Bolam as far back as 1998.
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Post by longinthetooth on Oct 11, 2019 16:14:16 GMT
I don't know if this happens every time, but at the Les Mis Concert last Saturday afternoon, half the audience went mental with cheering and clapping, as soon as Ball and Boe walked on. Quite a few leapt to their feet too - all this without a single note having been sung.
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Post by Mark on Oct 11, 2019 22:45:07 GMT
It was honestly like watching someone stumble out of spoons after an all day drinking sesh. But like.... across the stage in the middle of the show.
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Post by Xanderl on Oct 11, 2019 22:57:37 GMT
Wow. Obvious question is why they let her in!
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Post by kimbahorel on Oct 11, 2019 23:07:12 GMT
I don't know if this happens every time, but at the Les Mis Concert last Saturday afternoon, half the audience went mental with cheering and clapping, as soon as Ball and Boe walked on. Quite a few leapt to their feet too - all this without a single note having been sung. They do it for Boe Ball and Lucas... so when I went Wednesday matinee JOJ was on and he got no claps. In one respect I am glad they didnt because its not a panto but also felt bad that no one was bothered that JOJ (who is way better than Alfie) doesn't get a look in. Same with Matt Lucas he was off everyone usually goes nuts when he turns up and i think the orchestra time themselves to come in after a clap now so when Stephen covered Wednesday and enters the stage there was this moment of silence. I felt really bad for Stephen. That is the issue I have with this version. Concidering how much its drummed into vocabulary of theatre goers that you go to see the musical not the performers. There is in no way that anyone can deny this show is just a Boe Ball and Lucas does a weird version of Les Mis. So much so that they didnt even put a notice up to say that Katy Secombe was absent from the show they just put up a sign saying Matt Lucas was off. The posters outside there is 4 giant posters of Boe Ball Matt and Carrie but the rest of the leads looks the sort of fly poster you get stick on a random board somewhere.
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Post by richey on Oct 12, 2019 8:56:58 GMT
Another randy audience member (so to speak)
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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 12, 2019 11:12:00 GMT
It was honestly like watching someone stumble out of spoons after an all day drinking sesh. But like.... across the stage in the middle of the show. I've just read this a few minutes ago on Twitter in disbelief. I know audience members can get pretty drunk at the jukebox type musical but at a niche fringe show? I take it the second tweet means that the audience member then went & threw up all over the ladies' loos. I'm definitely not going to see Preludes this afternoon then!
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Post by Jon on Oct 12, 2019 17:56:35 GMT
I always wonder why some couples insist on getting it on in very public places like the theatre or cinema.
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Post by 49thand8th on Oct 13, 2019 3:55:02 GMT
Uhhh...
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Post by Penny on Oct 13, 2019 7:31:22 GMT
2 extremely drunk women at the matinee of Fame yesterday at the Peacock Theatre . They were drinking a bottle of wine that they kept getting out of their bag during the 2nd half , ( and a clear liquid out of a water bottle that I thought was actually water but it was probably vodka ! ) then they were swaying away to the songs and holding hands and waving them in the air ( they were 2nd row stalls )
Then one of them got up at the end of a song and started clapping and by the end they were sobbing and saying “ oh no she’s gone “ in a hysterical way . I was with my 14 yr old son who thought these women were badly behaved but he did say they were better than the show ! 😂
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Post by Kim on Oct 13, 2019 7:47:21 GMT
Granted I've never been at a performance of Grease where the audience have behaved well but this takes the cake Talking, singing along, texting with their phone screens at full brightness, one baby crying on and off (who brings a baby to the theatre?), one man shouted "we love you Peter!" while Peter Andre was singing Beauty School Dropout, and 2 women started having a loud argument mid act 2. I actually was at this show and next to said baby, i did go and ask at the box office if it was classed as a family show, and they said that they allowed the baby in as the babysitter had fallen through... funnily enough the story the mum gave was that she was breastfeeding. What annoyed me more was the box office staff askes if i'd prefer someone drunk or a baby next to me, funnily enough at todays prices neither
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 13, 2019 12:09:29 GMT
What a bizarre question. I hope it's not going to become part of the ticket buying process! "Would Madam prefer to sit next to a drunk, or a crying baby? We also have seat kickers and endless sweet eaters available."
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