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Post by MrBunbury on Jul 28, 2024 17:37:01 GMT
I saw it on Saturday night. I found it very good and already in good shape. There was a slight mistake (one speech on motherhood was started and then the actresses realised that it was not yet its moment so they quickly cleared the scene and the speech reappeared twenty minutes later) but it is understandable because the show requires coordination and synchronisation among the five actresses. I did not know the autobiography at the base of the adaptation but it is an interesting look at collective memory, telling the story of a woman born in 1940 in twelve moments of her life and linking that to what was happening in the world and how women's lives changed (or did not) over seventy years. Being from the continent, I also love the European feel of the play and the French songs that punctuate the scenes. I was sitting next to this guy who looked familiar but I could not put my finger on the feeling: only when I arrived home and did some research, I realised I was sitting next to Sacha Dhawan, who is the partner of Anjli Mohindra, who is in the play. My first time sitting next to one of the "History boys"!
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on Jul 28, 2024 17:41:38 GMT
Thanks for the review. Am keen to see this - and stupidly delayed booking, so now only the extreme sides downstairs are available. Do you think they'd be ok for this?
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Post by MrBunbury on Jul 28, 2024 21:45:40 GMT
Thanks for the review. Am keen to see this - and stupidly delayed booking, so now only the extreme sides downstairs are available. Do you think they'd be ok for this? Yes, I think being at the extreme side is fine. The set is minimal and just at the centre of the stage (and it is built and deconstructed by the same actresses for the different scenes) so from the side there should not be anything that is in your way. There is a scene that is quite strong and might be disturbing for some viewers.
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Post by prefab on Jul 30, 2024 21:52:15 GMT
I saw this tonight, and I thought that it was well-acted, but the 5 actresses could only do so much with a poor script. As MrBunbury said, this has big ambitions, "telling the story of a woman born in 1940 in twelve moments of her life and linking that to what was happening in the world and how women's lives changed (or did not) over seventy years." But for me at least, it failed miserably. Its look at the cultural history of the late 20th century was maddeningly superficial, and its references to politics and world events ranged from shallow to offensive (as, in the 1990s section, when Croats and Kosovars were described as "savages"). And then the personal narrative lacked specificity or curiosity about people other than Annie (the central figure). We learn that she largely defined herself through relationships with a series of men, but none of these men are given names or even rough characterizations. I ended up with the impression that Annie led a pretty charmed middle-class existence, and nothing really eventful ever happened in her 70+ years on earth, other than her abortion.
The 10 minute abortion monologue was the one point where the play actually worked for me (although it was also the moment when several audience members walked out). For just that scene, the action slowed down to describe a single moment in vivid, gruesome detail. It's too bad the rest of the play lacked that specificity and descriptive language. But I might be alone in my negative opinion; everyone else in my section immediately rose up to give the play a standing ovation.
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Post by aspieandy on Jul 31, 2024 0:39:29 GMT
tbh, I felt like it was by women, pretty much for women - not a criticism or judgement I just didn't find much relevant to moi.
I didn't feel like I knew much about her. A lot of life events, and occasions. More like a diary.
On first blush that architecture seemed ponderous but I came to like it; it's a memory play which jogs a lot of audience memories, often. In the end it has a melancholic quality, as perhaps life does.
Quite early I wondered if events were taking us down the road of male-bashing/bloody men! This is, though, distinctly Gallic - it wasn't ungenerous to men by todays Anglo standards, and she did take responsibility for her choices.
On the 43 bus home I was reminded a little of The Seven Ages of Man/As You Like It monologue. Also, I was reminded of, and must, must now re-read Any Human Heart by William Boyd.
An already polished production that many will likely find fresh and/or relevant, with a classy cast.
More European theatre, please.
Thanks to the Almeida for the Locals discount.
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Post by n1david on Jul 31, 2024 11:47:40 GMT
Apologies for the amount of spoiler tags in here, but it relates to the scene to which MrBunbury referred, however the Times talks about the nature of the scene, which some board members might prefer to be unaware of before going to the show... Abortion scene leaves theatregoers feeling faint Link in spoiler text because it divulges the plot point (the story is from the Times) Sounds like the Q&A on Monday could be lively... (edit. I see that prefab referred to it also above giving the topic, but I've put the tags in now and I'm not going to the effort of taking them out...)
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Post by Dave B on Jul 31, 2024 12:19:39 GMT
We were there last night, not really had time to type up thoughts yet but that particular scene is pretty harrowing. It is absolutely a play to read the trigger warnings about, two or three people left from the stalls during it and there were some people very impacted. You could hear a pin drop, there wasn't any coughing or rustling of bags or sweets etc, it was the most silent I can recall being in a theatre recently.
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Post by Rory on Jul 31, 2024 13:31:15 GMT
Who does the abortion monologue?
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Post by aspieandy on Jul 31, 2024 13:37:20 GMT
Romola Garai
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Post by jr on Jul 31, 2024 19:26:05 GMT
They could release heavily detailed triggers to make people aware of possible issues.
Of course, if they are too detailed then you might need less detailed triggers for the previous ones.
But these less detailed triggers might also trigger someone. So you might need... and so ad nauseuam.
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Post by lynette on Aug 1, 2024 17:16:57 GMT
Well, thanks for the heads up on this one.
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Post by harry on Aug 2, 2024 7:23:18 GMT
I found this utterly stunning. A whole life in 2 hours and everything that encompasses. Lots of humour, pathos, nostalgia and, yes, trauma. Yes *that* scene is a hard watch/listen, but also an essential part of this woman’s life (and many other lives). It’s also a very small section of a much larger tapestry and it would be a huge shame if that’s the only reason this play is spoken about.
All five actresses are brilliant and watching the story pass through them one at a time as she ages is beautifully moving. I found the play really worked a spell me, a little unsure at the start and then slowly realising quite how much I was loving it, building to a really simple but visually stunning finish.
Honestly I think it’s the best thing I’ve seen in 2024 so far, a very easy 5 stars from me.
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Post by parsley1 on Aug 2, 2024 9:54:45 GMT
5 stars Independent 5 stars The FT 5 stars The Stage 4 stars ES 4 stars Mail 4 stars The Times
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Post by dr on Aug 2, 2024 10:15:55 GMT
Very, very deserving. It's an outstanding masterpiece, adapted with great elegance and warmth by Eline Arbo, and fitting perfectly within the Almeida space. There are obvious connections in theme to Complicite's Mnemonic, but this reaches arguably greater levels of humanity and character, with the fast-paced but descriptive style lending itself well to the evocation of a person's life in its totality. The cast is stellar, synchronised and sophisticated - Gina McKee is a clear standout, utterly mesmerising in her section and throughout. And the overall visual concept - which I won't spoil - is marvellously executed where it could fall into cliché, alongside one of the best, most atmospheric lighting designs I've seen in a long time.
This feels like the kind of work the Almeida deserves - bold and fresh, bringing the innovation of the European stage to London, while maintaining the gravitas and pathos of the big, weighty classics that are so often staged there. Easy 5*.
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Post by alessia on Aug 2, 2024 15:06:40 GMT
This is almost sold out! Managed to grab a cheap-ish seat but they're almost all gone- sounds really amazing. Looking forward to it
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Post by Rory on Aug 2, 2024 15:50:55 GMT
This a big hit! Wonder if it will come back again given the relatively short run and rave reviews.
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Post by Jon on Aug 2, 2024 16:07:35 GMT
Romola Garai goes from this to Giant at the Royal Court which is also selling really well.
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Post by Rory on Aug 2, 2024 18:12:41 GMT
Romola Garai goes from this to Giant at the Royal Court which is also selling really well. Giant also has transfer potential.
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Post by jr on Aug 2, 2024 18:55:41 GMT
Going later this month. I read the book and liked it, though I wasn't crazy about it. There are brilliant passages but I found some of the writing repetitive. I like Annie Ernaux and bought the ticket without knowing the cast. I was quite happy when I knew of the great cast and even happier seeing the reviews now.
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Post by aspieandy on Aug 2, 2024 20:18:40 GMT
Romola Garai goes from this to Giant at the Royal Court which is also selling really well. Having pulled out of Nachtland at the Young Vic in Feb. Quite the year.
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Post by jr on Aug 2, 2024 21:20:17 GMT
Romola Garai goes from this to Giant at the Royal Court which is also selling really well. Having pulled out of Nachtland at the Young Vic in Feb. Quite the year.
And how clever she was to pull out of that rubbish.
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Post by Steve on Aug 6, 2024 11:14:27 GMT
Its look at the cultural history of the late 20th century was maddeningly superficial, and its references to politics and world events ranged from shallow to offensive (as, in the 1990s section, when Croats and Kosovars were described as "savages"). And then the personal narrative lacked specificity or curiosity about people other than Annie (the central figure). We learn that she largely defined herself through relationships with a series of men, but none of these men are given names or even rough characterizations. . . Some spoilers follow. . . I agree the description of people as "savages" did seem disturbing, but I think that describing the Croats and Kosovars as "behaving like savages" was, in context, a self-critique and confession by the author about how she/her character didn't care about history any more in the nineties (having previously been politically engaged in the sixties), becoming insular and complacent, and she was suggesting that her whole generation had become similarly insular and complacent, materialistic and obsessed with personal affairs, and no longer caring to inform themselves about stuff like whether the Hutus or the Tutsis were the good guys or the bad guys, considering themselves above it all. I agree that the author of the source material is incredibly self-involved (the funniest part, for me, was Gina McKee's portrayal of a woman who cares more about her married lover's bed than anything in the world - including her kids!), but, for me, that's what's great about the piece, that she's willing to describe negative traits about herself that most of us would keep to ourselves. I mean, her kids now know how low they were in her hierarchy of priorities in the nineties lol. Gina McKee does such an amazing job. She's so relaxed, which of course makes us relaxed, and is, for me, the funniest version of this woman (by a whisker, with Anjili Mohindra a very close second), where the woman has abandoned her previous "desire to please," now her kids are grown up, and McKee's commitment to be constantly smilingly shamelessly debauched is gloriously funny. By comparison, this show is nowhere near as endearing as Alistair McDowall's "All of It" at the Royal Court, where Kate O'Flynn portrayed an adorably shy and nervy ordinary woman from birth (babbling like in Joyce's "Portrait of the Artist") to death, and that's precisely because, in this show, this woman isn't as unrelentingly ordinary or nice. What she is is a talented author who wants to save herself from vanishing into "the vast anonymity of a distant generation" by documenting everything that has ever meant anything to her. She's like an analogue version of one of those people in a sci-fi movie who copies themselves onto a chip so they can live forever lol. What this play does SO well is split this woman into all the different people she has been through her life (we're never the same person over time), having 5 actors play 5 different versions of her, and since on stage these 5 voices persist from beginning to end, it's like the younger versions of the dancers in Sondheim's "Follies," interacting with their older selves, times 5! One striking image that you absolutely wouldn't get in the linear novel is when all five versions of this woman do exercises on stage at the same time. Poor funny flailing Deborah Findlay makes the scene! The reason, that Mohindra and McKee play the funniest versions of this woman, is that we are at our funniest when we care too much (our teen years) and couldn't care less (middle age), which are the funniest attitudes we can take. And Mohindra is marvellous at caring too much just as McKee is marvellous at caring too little. Suffering escalates as we get old, but also when we experiences traumas, which is why the experiences documented by Deborah Findlay (old age) and Romola Garai (illegal abortion) are the most moving. Garai, in particular, has to suffer such intense experiences, and really puts us through the grinder by feeling all of it. And Harmony Rose-Bremner is delightful as the bright bushy-eyed child self of the woman, when everything is happening for the first time! I really LOVED this show, as it really gets you thinking about all of life (and death) and how terrible you can be for large parts of it lol, so I feel it deserves the 5 stars that the critics have been giving it.
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Post by prefab on Aug 6, 2024 11:48:53 GMT
A very perceptive review, as always, Steve. Even though I would give it 2 stars rather than 5, I agree with a lot of your observations. I think one of the main sticking points for me was the play's conceit (in both senses of the word) of using "we" instead of "I" to describe the character's experiences. There was a moment where I was hopeful that the "we" was referring to the way that each individual contains multitudes (hence the 5 actresses playing the same character). But there was a speech at the end which I thought made clear that the author was presuming to speak for her generation (while blithely excluding large segments of her generation, such as French-Algerian women). Yes, there's a bit of gentle self-critique at her lack of political engagement or awareness, but it feels way too gentle and ultimately disconnected from anything else in the narrative.
And again, I wouldn't have been so bothered by this if I felt like the play was offering me any new insights--or even old cliches wrapped in memorable poetic language. But aside from the abortion scene, it all felt so shallow and trite. Maybe the fact that I'm a huge fan of authors who've covered similar territory like Doris Lessing made this look weak in comparison.
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Post by jr on Aug 6, 2024 15:35:03 GMT
I haven't seen the play yet. But having read the book, isn't the we implying that our personal experience is shared with our generation? If I remember well, different sections of the book begin with lists of things/facts that happen around the same time of the personal experiences that follow. Maybe they have got rid of that in the play.
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Post by Steve on Aug 6, 2024 16:50:25 GMT
I haven't seen the play yet. But having read the book, isn't the we implying that our personal experience is shared with our generation? If I remember well, different sections of the book begin with lists of things/facts that happen around the same time of the personal experiences that follow. Maybe they have got rid of that in the play. No. They have not got rid of that. Some spoilers follow. . . We get constant lists of cultural happenings throughout (with songs a big part of it, as well, something you wouldn't get from reading a book, particularly as the actors perform a lot of theese songs at least in part - I loved "The Great Pretender," for example). I wouldn't say she speaks for her whole generation though, as the "we" she describes is terrified of Le Pen and "the far right," so clearly, by defining them as villains, they are not part of the collective "we" she seeks to speak for. I'd say she feels part of a comfortable liberal middle class (she has a LOT of leisure time to devote to idling around having affairs, for example), and it's them who are the "we" she is speaking for. The Venn diagram of regular theatregoers and the politics and economics of her tribe, that she is speaking for, probably have some significant overlap.
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