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Post by thedrowsychaperone on May 23, 2024 9:34:21 GMT
I'm an avid listener of Richard Osman and Marina Hyde's podcast "The Rest is Entertainment", talking all this behind the scenes of showbiz.
In one of the first episodes, Richard mentions that he's recently been touring some West End houses for a secret upcoming project, with more news to come...
Then on this morning's new episode, he fairly casually announces that he's working on a stage adaptation of his hit novel, The Thursday Murder Club! He's writing it alongside Tom Basden, who I love (his sitcom Here We Go on the BBC is delightful, should be a classic IMO!) - but along with a very starry movie adaptation, I think this will be a huge smash (and will do WONDERS on the regional and amateur circuit in 10 years time)
He didn't have much else to say about it, except for Amblin are co-producing (as they are producing the film) and that they're just sitting down and working on it now, so likely there will be news next year.
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Post by jr on May 23, 2024 10:40:52 GMT
Not sure if play and film coming out roughly at the same time is a good strategy.
I was reading recently about the film adaptation. It will be on Netflix, not sure if with theatrical release or not. There is only 1 of the 4 main characters to cast. People seem to want Judi Dench to play Joyce. For me Celia Imrie would be a far better match for Joyce's personality. Plus I had a brief interaction with her some time ago and she is a very nice person.
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Post by jr on May 23, 2024 11:14:12 GMT
Confirmed casting - on this week's edition of The Rest is Entertainment - for movie is Celia Imrie (Joyce) Helen Mirren (Elizabeth) Ben Kinsley (Ibrahim) and "left of field" casting Pierce Brosnan (Ron) Great. I just finished the last book in the series and keep thinking of Celia Imrie as Joyce. |
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Post by parsley1 on May 23, 2024 11:19:40 GMT
I'm an avid listener of Richard Osman and Marina Hyde's podcast "The Rest is Entertainment", talking all this behind the scenes of showbiz. In one of the first episodes, Richard mentions that he's recently been touring some West End houses for a secret upcoming project, with more news to come... Then on this morning's new episode, he fairly casually announces that he's working on a stage adaptation of his hit novel, The Thursday Murder Club! He's writing it alongside Tom Basden, who I love (his sitcom Here We Go on the BBC is delightful, should be a classic IMO!) - but along with a very starry movie adaptation, I think this will be a huge smash (and will do WONDERS on the regional and amateur circuit in 10 years time) He didn't have much else to say about it, except for Amblin are co-producing (as they are producing the film) and that they're just sitting down and working on it now, so likely there will be news next year. Because it’s not enough to write a book The idea needs to be stretched and extrapolated into a franchise on stage, film and streaming It’s so depressing |
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Post by thedrowsychaperone on May 23, 2024 11:38:56 GMT
I do agree that the timing of a stage adaptation AND a film adaptation likely in the same 12 months will either bolster both or cancel each other out. My mind immediately just goes to the amateur circuit in 10 years time, it will be a brilliant vehicle for 4 older stalwarts who rarely get meaty roles!
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Post by Steve on May 23, 2024 11:41:45 GMT
Because it’s not enough to write a book The idea needs to be stretched and extrapolated into a franchise on stage, film and streaming It’s so depressing A great idea can work well in multiple formats, surely. "Romeo and Juliet" works well as a film and an opera, for example. Obviously, some ideas are especially literary, and wouldn't make a good play or film, like "Ulysses." But, not having read it, wouldn't "The Thursday Murder Club" be just as entertaining on stage as any number of murder mysteries, starting with "The Mousetrap?" As someone who sees more plays, than reads books, I think I'd rather devote a pleasurable cosy evening out to "4 old stalwarts" running rings round each other on stage than prowl through Richard Osman's prose for days upon days lol. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 23, 2024 15:57:50 GMT
Wolf Hall survived being a book, play and TV adaptation.
I am not comparing the two.
But there is no reason to immediately dismiss the idea of adaptations for multiple media forms.
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Post by Jan on May 23, 2024 17:28:20 GMT
Wolf Hall survived being a book, play and TV adaptation. I am not comparing the two. But there is no reason to immediately dismiss the idea of adaptations for multiple media forms. Correct. I’m looking forward to the video game, the board game (in time for Xmas), and the theme park too. |
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Post by princeton on May 23, 2024 17:43:38 GMT
I suspect he was using the word 'adaptation' in a very loose sense, not least because he also referenced Stranger Things: The First Shadow and Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, as well as Inside No 9: Stage Fright, which is going to be a mix of existing characters and stories alongside new material.
So it may not be a straight adaptation of the first 'Thursday Murder Club' book, rather a new story set in the 'Murderverse' (as Marina Hyde called it) with the main four characters in new situations. Time will tell.
Certainly involving Tom Basden, whose adaptation of Accidental Anarchist was a highlight of last year, is a very shrewd move.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 23, 2024 18:32:32 GMT
Is it a good novel? I haven’t read it.
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Post by Jon on May 23, 2024 22:07:28 GMT
If the Wolf Hall trilogy can be both plays and a TV series, I don't have an issue with The Thursday Murder Club becoming a play.
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Post by jr on May 24, 2024 5:28:34 GMT
Is it a good novel? I haven’t read it. Light entertainment, not bad. I found that as the series progresses, quality diminishes. Though the 4th book is better than the 3rd. He's got a new novel/series coming out this autumn. Look out for the tv/film/podcast/theatre adaptations. |
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Post by Cleo on May 25, 2024 16:58:24 GMT
First of all thank you for setting up The Thursday Murder Club discussion; I too listen to the podcast, and am delighted with the casting. I have enjoyed all the books and would be happy to see the book(s) adapted for stage, film and TV. I wonder if Ingrid Oliver (Richard’s wife) will be in the film version?
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Post by lynette on May 26, 2024 10:33:12 GMT
They are enjoyable books, the initial concept a good one and some neat surprises. I do think that these days the author (especially of anything crime related) writes with one ear and one eye on adaptation to the screen. This isn’t a criticism but it does affect the writing although I can’t give exact examples. I bet those of us who read these were casting them from the beginning and most of us got it right! The brilliant Shardlake books have taken ten years or more to come to the screen and a reasonable job was done, but they were not written for the screen and you can tell because the adaptation has a hard time conveying the inner life of the main character and his ruminations on the plot plus of course the ‘problem’ of casting a disabled actor and the fact that this has only just been resolved with the rise of young Arthur ( name?) as a star in the making. And stories based in the present must be cheaper to make, no historical costuming or covering the yellow street lines.
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Post by Jan on May 26, 2024 11:59:41 GMT
.... the ‘problem’ of casting a disabled actor and the fact that this has only just been resolved with the rise of young Arthur ( name?) as a star in the making. The main problem being the actor they cast portraying something totally different to the character (of the character) in the books and the fact he has made a point of saying it is totally deliberate and there was "no way" his portrayal would represent the character as written as he disapproves of it. Of course Kenneth Branagh optioned the books previously and that would have also been a bit of major mis-casting. The disabled actor casting itself is a separate issue but they were OK casting an Irish actor as a major Jewish-heritage character in an anti-Semitic era so lived experience apparently didn't count for anything there - if you go down that road at least be consistent. |
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Post by showgirl on May 26, 2024 13:50:33 GMT
Please could someone tell me where the TMC podcast lives? I only listen to R 4 - mainly via what they now call "Sounds" but was "Listen Again" or similar; I don't have Spotify or any Apple-related service etc, but both my sister and I like the books and we hadn't heard of any podcast. Thank you.
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Post by CG on the loose on May 26, 2024 21:14:56 GMT
Please could someone tell me where the TMC podcast lives? I only listen to R 4 - mainly via what they now call "Sounds" but was "Listen Again" or similar; I don't have Spotify or any Apple-related service etc, but both my sister and I like the books and we hadn't heard of any podcast. Thank you. The podcast occasionally touches on TMC but is much broader in scope. This is the blurb... "The Rest Is Entertainment pulls back the curtain on television, movies, journalism and more with Richard Osman and Marina Hyde using their years of knowledge, enviable contact book and wit to bring you what’s hot, and what’s not in the world of entertainment." It's available in all sorts of places, including: - Audible - www.audible.co.uk/podcast/The-Rest-Is-Entertainment/B0CNYC2VP9- YouTube - www.youtube.com/@therestisentertainment |
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Post by showgirl on May 27, 2024 2:19:11 GMT
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Post by thedrowsychaperone on May 28, 2024 9:29:12 GMT
Basically, put Gay Soper and Rosemary Ashe in this when it hits the stage and I'll be happy
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Post by jojo on May 28, 2024 14:19:28 GMT
I suspect he was using the word 'adaptation' in a very loose sense, not least because he also referenced Stranger Things: The First Shadow and Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, as well as Inside No 9: Stage Fright, which is going to be a mix of existing characters and stories alongside new material. So it may not be a straight adaptation of the first 'Thursday Murder Club' book, rather a new story set in the 'Murderverse' (as Marina Hyde called it) with the main four characters in new situations. Time will tell. Certainly involving Tom Basden, whose adaptation of Accidental Anarchist was a highlight of last year, is a very shrewd move. That would make more sense to me. I have read the first book with my book group, after resisting for a while. It was decent enough, but the characters were better than the plot. The dialogue would translate well, and I love the idea of four older stalwarts getting the chance to shine, but IMO it would take considerable adapting to turn that story into a play. Given there is now a popular series with established characters it would be better to have a fresh story with them, including some re-written extracts from the book(s). |
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Post by sfsusan on May 29, 2024 22:54:35 GMT
Is it a good novel? I haven’t read it. He writes old people really well. They're basically the same people as when they were young but with more regrets and less time to waste. |
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Post by anita on May 30, 2024 9:17:58 GMT
Is it a good novel? I haven’t read it. Robert Thorogood's Marlow books are better. |
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Post by danb on May 31, 2024 21:11:04 GMT
Is it a good novel? I haven’t read it. He writes old people really well. They're basically the same people as when they were young but with more regrets and less time to waste. A couple of the characters are excellently realised and wouldn’t be out of place in a Victoria Wood. |
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