Infected blood scandal

Damning reports of the past are all well and good, but if those that it has affected are no longer with us their relatives shouldn’t get a payout. Our economy is in enough trouble. A genuine written apology should be enough. I’m the first to hold the Tories to account for their greed & incompetence, but our flailing economy shouldn’t have to take the weight of this ball drop. Not unless the source of the infected products has already paid out to the NHS previously.

….and if it is my day job? 😂

If it is then I am concerned

Your logic is a bit weird

People who die in a plane crash have compensation paid to NOK

Your reasoning that because someone has died

There is no remuneration

Isn’t really one held by wider society nor is it practiced in any area of life in reality

I would read on the Treloar School

Children with haemophilia were infected deliberately with HIV and Hepatitis to effectively see what would happen

They were never informed and many of them have died

I am going to leave this discussion thread now from my perspective

Read this to yourself a few times

And have a think about what they deserve

Children living now will only thrive and flourish in a corruption free society

We can only do this by acknowledging and rectifying past errors and evil

Perhaps people should think if the current moral ethical and financial state of this society is one fit for children


Don’t kid yourself this sort of activity isn’t still going on in all public health services in this country

I don't 100% disagree with this logic.  After all, how much value to you put on someone's life?  If I lost a parent or a child to that scandal, would £100m be adequate compensation?  Probably not, as there wouldn't be enough money to replace a loved one.  Also, where does that money come from to pay for these scandals? 

Instead, I think criminal investigations need to happen, and those found guilty need to dealt with in the right way.

And where is the compensation coming from?
Us!
However you look at it we are paying once again for government scandals.
It's shameful isn't it and an absolute disgrace.

Its also (and to a significant extent) an NHS scandal, just like Mid-Staffs, so we’re paying for their incompetence too - who else can pay ?

There was a woman on the Welsh news who’d given her son injections to help his haemophilia. By 14 he was diagnosed with HIV, and he died at 33. I can’t begin to fathom the guilt she has lived with for decades.

I don’t care if the taxpayer is footing the bill. They absolutely should get compensation. Can’t believe that’s even up for debate.

Preemptive warning.

Depersonalise this please. Focus your comments on the subject matter, not on other members of this forum. 

Just more proof that politicians are useless per se and the system is broken.

Didn't they have to bring in the Army to sort out all the logistic issues with PPE when the pandemic started. All the non-exec board roles which go to Govt cronies are a waste of money IMO.

The underfunding by the Tories is deliberate to encourage the widespread belief -- a belief Wes Streeting seems to embrace -- that it's reform that's needed, and "reform" is code for more input from the private sector.

They did the same with railways in the 80s and early 90s.

But actually there *are* too many managers, many of whom have a complete disconnect from the real medical needs. I'm married to an NHS consultant and I hear horror stories weekly about how departments have to waste time rebidding for services, how funding for essential services won't be agreed without coming up with some programme for change. So pointless and often retrograde changes are instituted just to get the funding, when all that is really needed is an adequate provision of facilities and staff.

There is so much wastage. When patients reach the top of a waiting list, rather than let them select a convenient time from available appointment slots, they are issued a time, resulting in many no-shows or needless admin rearranging times. So much communication is still by snail mail, and it's common for letters to arrive after the event for which they were needed.

There are so many different IT systems in use across trusts and GPs, with no central database where everything related to each patient is kept. I've had GPs who can't access test results from hospitals and vice versa.

A relative on a two-week cancer treatment pathway has not started treatment six months after diagnosis, because the members of multi-disciplinary teams (MDT) fail to talk to one effectively and only seem to do so at irregular face-to-face meetings, and because there is such a backlog of cases. The MDT meetings and the constant fear of negligence accusations mean that, in complicated cases, consultants favour joint decisions with shared and documented responsibility if it goes wrong, rather than making a judgement on their own and getting on with treatment speedily.

The devolution of the care home system from councils to the private sector over the past few decades has resulted in severe delays in the discharge of many bed-blocking patients while funding is agreed, not to mention poorer standards of care at increased cost.

The NHS needs:
- less private sector involvement;
- a ban on its staff moonlighting for private-sector competitors (what other industry would allow that?);
- a ban on the use of agency staff;
- an end to internal departments having to rebid to provide their services;
- no more change for change's sake;
- a return of nursing bursaries;
- increased provision of university medical places, so that vacancies can actually be filled: there is absolutely no reason why the UK cannot be self-sufficient in provision of staff; there should be no need to raid human resources from poorer countries that may have greater needs than our own;
- a team in central government with IT expertise to get a grip on the myriad of systems in use: assess what there is, determine which systems meet best practice and roll those out, evolving only where strictly necessary, gradually across the NHS.