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Post by MoreLife on Aug 6, 2024 9:21:03 GMT
What a lovely fun evening at the theatre this was last night, there were maybe a few spots here and there where I'd have tweaked the sound balance to help voices over the wonderful LMTO's wall of sound, but aside from that you could definitely tell it's been rehearsed and handled with a lot of care.
Pretty much everyone in the cast brought their A game and was having a ball, the only one I really couldn't forgive for his (poor!) acting was sadly Jason Manford. He has a more than decent singing voice, but he has only one acting mode and that is PAAAAAANTOOOOOOOO. Yes, the material lends itself to some over the top moments, but with him every - single - gesture - and - line was constantly BIG and LOUD and OVER THE TOP. The contrast with the rest of the cast was evident throughout...
It was super well received by the audience and while of course a certain type of response is to be expected when a show is performed for the first time, albeit in concert, and everyone really wanted to be there to see it, to me that's evidence that it would work here, at least for a limited run.
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Post by longinthetooth on Aug 6, 2024 19:23:16 GMT
Went to the matinee this afternoon, and absolutely loved it! I seem to agree with all the comments above (especially re Jason Manford). My highlight was Gary Wilmot too. The audience loved it as well, loads of prolonged laughter, cheering and the obligatory standing ovation. For me, it was such fun, an easy 5*, and I'd have gone straight back this evening if I lived in London.
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Post by openingup on Aug 6, 2024 22:26:40 GMT
I went to the matinee of this today and absolutely adored it. Considering it was a concert performance, it was so slick and really well staged…and I really do not think there was a weak link in the cast. Before today I didn’t have much of a knowledge of the show (except ‘A Musical’…which was obviously a highlight) but I have come away a new fan and hope for a full West End production one day. Richard Fleeshman stole it for me, he was clearly having the best time as Shakespeare as his comic timing was incredible…oh and, we were sat directly next to Hannah Waddingham which kind of took me out of it for the first few minutes of the show haha!
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 6, 2024 22:48:04 GMT
Great fun tonight. Really well done as usual with Fourth Wall - great sound and a proper production.
Fleeshman was...exceptional and I might never recover. Manford VERY miscast in this though - just didn't have the showmanship for it, nor did he have the acting or singing chops (or really the comedy chops tbh)
So stagey though - so a fun 4 stars.
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Post by longinthetooth on Aug 6, 2024 23:10:00 GMT
we were sat directly next to Hannah Waddingham Nooooo! Where were you sitting? I was there this afternoon, too, but didn't spot her.
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Post by openingup on Aug 6, 2024 23:19:47 GMT
we were sat directly next to Hannah Waddingham Nooooo! Where were you sitting? I was there this afternoon, too, but didn't spot her. Row M of the stalls! I thought we’d peaked when Gaby Roslin was sat two seats away from us, until Hannah sat in the gap haha.
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Post by capybara on Aug 7, 2024 0:10:36 GMT
Such a brilliant evening at the Theatre Royal Drury Lane. Something Rotten! is a show I knew little about going in but am now very much bedazzled by it. Great energy and comfortably the funniest musical I’ve seen in the West End since Mincemeat opened across the road.
Karey and Wayne Fitzpatrick’s music is clever, witty and joyous and the book is genuinely hilarious. It’s like classic British humour in the style of, say, Only Fools and Horses but for a 2024 audience if that makes any sense. So many proper laugh out loud moments. I cannot believe this creative team came up with the dirge that was Mrs Doubtfire!
From opening number ‘Welcome to the Renaissance’, it was clear this was going to be a special evening. The audience was electric and feeding off the cast’s energy. And what a cast. Firstly, Jason Manford does have his limitations but he is perfect in certain roles; Nick Bottom is one of them. His comic timing was spot on all night and he’s got a fair old voice on him too. I can see why others might prefer another in the role though.
It was a delight to see Richard Fleeshman back on stage, for me the first time since Legally Blonde 13 years ago. He was a wonderful Shakespeare, camping it up where required (so the whole show really). Again, a really underrated comedic performer.
It’s hard to mention everyone but of course Gary Wilmot was a great Nostradamus, Marisha Wallace was Marisha Wallace (and sounded incredible in her solo number), Evie Hoskins was wonderful as Portia and the scene opposite Cassius Hackforth as Nigel was excellent.
With my limited knowledge of the piece, I had no idea what a love letter to musical theatre this show is. The references, as you might expect, went down a storm with the audience. All round, a really great experience and I wish I could see it again. I could see this doing well in the West End as a full production. Get it open!
Five stars.
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Aug 7, 2024 1:19:32 GMT
If the one star rating isn't a troll it would be great to have a comment why they disliked Something Rotten so much. I LOVED it !!
Made me laugh even more than the Police Cops Musical and Gary Wilmot is a legend. Palladium panto won't be the same without him.
If Your Lie In April can make it from concert to a full staging surely this can and should.
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Post by Jon on Aug 7, 2024 11:01:25 GMT
Out of interest, did everyone use their own accents?
I think Something Rotten! would do well at the RSC as a Christmas show.
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Post by Steve on Aug 7, 2024 12:04:46 GMT
Out of interest, did everyone use their own accents? I think Something Rotten! would do well at the RSC as a Christmas show. Yes they did. Although I'd say most of the male actors usefully adopted their slightly more high-pitched child-like panto voices (Frank Spencer was everyone everywhere), which is why the whole thing worked so well. Goodbye threatening masculinity, hello childlike silliness and camp lol. When actors behave this way, the whole audience knows not to take the story seriously and get ready for some raucous pisstaking laughter. Marisha Wallace was a brash brusque version of her own American accent, which also worked as her character is desperate to show she can do what a man can do, ala Upstart Crow lol. Richard Fleeshman did put on a deep Scottish accent when he was in disguise lol, but otherwise was a flash George Michael superstar version of himself. I saw the matinee yesterday and LOVED it. Some spoilers follow. . . When I watched the Tony Awards performance on YouTube to assess whether I wanted to see this, and how much I wanted to pay, it all seemed so razzle dazzle and out to impress, with Nostradamus getting his vision of musicals being the future all at once, and then showing off brazenly. That didn't make me laugh. Gary Wilmott didn't do that at all. He went straight into his childlike Palladium Panto version of himself, and seemed to constantly discover new things about the future every 5 seconds, constantly filled with "whoo hoo" childlike amazement. Not only that, but I recall that Wilmott had done a list of musicals in one of his panto appearances, and this is basically another list of musicals lol. I felt Jason Manford, playing a well-meaning but insensitive version of himself, Nick, worked wonders anchoring this thing, his soft yet blunt regular guy Mancunian tones establishing the most masculine you were allowed to be without being considered a total villain. His underappreciated genius of a manchild metrosexual brother, Nigel, was played so sweetly super-sensitively stutteringly high-pitched, by budding superstar, Cassius Hackforth, that I'll bet 100 percent of the audience wanted to give him a hug of congratulations every time he whimpered out a tentative word. Hackforth's Nigel probably had the highest Q-rating (indicating universal likeability) of any character I've ever seen on stage lol. There was probably no funnier sex scene on stage this year than Evelyn Hoskins moaning sexually at Hackforth's every Shakespearian poem delivered in pure Norman Wisdom helium breathiness. Cameron Blakeley, as Brother Jeremiah, the persecuting religious spoilsport, adopted a deep masculine Monty Python villainous bully voice, but always hilariously and brilliantly trailed into pure Kenneth Williams as his mouth was unwittingly constantly crowded with unwanted innuendo about rods and Bottoms lol. It was so great to see Richard Fleeshman again in the West End after he last left us for "Barcelona" as Space Cadet Airman Andy in "Company." His super-smooth show-off of an evil George Michael tinged Shakespeare, constantly singing his poems for screams from the Fangirls, was a laugh riot that actually topped the similar boyband superstar featured in "Fangirls" for pure narcissistic egotism and cynicism lol. These actors, all of them, delivered the adequate ("Welcome to the Renaissance") to excellent ("A Musical") material in absolutely top form. I loved this to the tune of 4 and a half stars.
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Post by craigbowker on Aug 7, 2024 14:06:03 GMT
I am so upset I missed this!
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Post by craigbowker on Aug 7, 2024 14:07:45 GMT
Out of interest, did everyone use their own accents? I think Something Rotten! would do well at the RSC as a Christmas show. Would love it at the actual Globe
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Post by alece10 on Aug 7, 2024 15:58:36 GMT
Several of us have mentioned Cassius Hatchfork's performance and he has been singled out in a few reviews. I'd never heard of him before the concert so was just having a look at his Instagram. He is one talented young man. Some lovely videos of him singing everything from Sondheim to half a Sixpence to Evan Hansen. Lovely voice with just a hint of a lisp which is quite endearing. I presumed his Yorkshire accent in the concert was his normal accent but hearing him talk on Instagram its not, so even more impressed as I thought it was rather good. Really hope he got noticed by the powers that be for future work.
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Post by flouise on Aug 7, 2024 18:51:03 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed this last night, as did the rest of the audience clearly from the reaction! Hopefully it will lead to a West End run- if it does I wonder whether there would be any thought given to beefing up the female roles- this was the only thing that was lacking for me.
I thought Jason Manford did a decent enough job, Richard Fleeshman was fantastic- very similar to Christian Borle's performance but in the best possible way! Cassius Hatchfork was definitely the standout. I also hadn't heard of him before but I look forward to seeing him in other roles in the future.
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Post by Dr Tom on Aug 7, 2024 19:45:34 GMT
I hope there’s a future for this show in London. Like others, I did prefer the more British style of presentation. Part of the appeal though was the select audience who were clearly picking up on all the references. Someone near me said about the audience “all the usual types are here”.
So, I hope someone will fund this and take a chance, but it may be a hard sell. There were a lot of ticket offers for the concerts.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 7, 2024 21:41:34 GMT
Great to hear this was so well received.
Methinks this will get a full staging on the back of this. Hopefully without Manford.
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Post by westendgirls on Aug 7, 2024 22:29:12 GMT
Great to hear this was so well received. Methinks this will get a full staging on the back of this. Hopefully without Manford. Ah I really enjoyed Jason’s performance and would be more than happy if he returned to the role full time of it got a full run I doubt he would want the commitment of a full time London role though, when his family are all in the north west
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 8, 2024 11:25:15 GMT
Nick needs to be a showman - Manford just is not a showman and I wish we'd stop casting him in musicals because he can sort of sing and has some public recognition.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 8, 2024 11:50:16 GMT
I've seen Jason Manford in this and also Curtains and thought he was good in both and has a far better voice than I expected.
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Post by jr on Aug 8, 2024 11:59:01 GMT
Nick needs to be a showman - Manford just is not a showman and I wish we'd stop casting him in musicals because he can sort of sing and has some public recognition. I have only seen him in Curtains and don't wish to see him in another musical ever again. He is not an actor.
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 8, 2024 12:07:47 GMT
Nick needs to be a showman - Manford just is not a showman and I wish we'd stop casting him in musicals because he can sort of sing and has some public recognition. I have only seen him in Curtains and don't wish to see him in another musical ever again. He is not an actor. Correct.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 8, 2024 14:20:58 GMT
Me three. Didn’t like his acting in Chitty either. Panto panto Panto. He has a nice enough voice but it’s all a bit “pub singer”. No nuance.
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 8, 2024 15:09:57 GMT
It's all sorted of fine for Panto but not for an actual musical.
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Post by openingup on Aug 8, 2024 16:14:49 GMT
I am a fan so perhaps bias, but I do think he’s getting a bit of a hard time here. As ‘stunt’ castings go, he’s at the very least a safe pair of hands and actually I think does a pretty good job. On the whole, I also think he does a lot for the theatre community in the mainstream too so another tick from me.
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Post by Being Alive on Aug 8, 2024 16:21:07 GMT
I'd be more inclined to agree with you if he did a lot for the theatre community in mainstream and was actually GOOD at being in musicals...
He doesn't have the tools to carry a show well, and has been the weakest part of everything I've ever seen him do, so I'd prefer he stuck to presenting and stand up please ✌🏻
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