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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 19:00:20 GMT
What about train journeys pre-booked? London to Brighton say. They're not going to run a cancelled train just because you've booked it! Presumably they'll tell you your ticket is valid on any reasonable route...
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Post by alece10 on Jul 14, 2016 17:00:00 GMT
I had better check the trains to Chichester as I an going on Sat 30th from London to see Half a Sixpence. Isn't part of the problem because staff keep calling in sick and they don't have enough people to run the trains. So they are either on strike or sick. Always 2 sides to a story. Same day as I have booked. What train are you planning to get? We met all too briefly in the chocolate factory, we have a proper chat on the way down? Going down from Victoria with a friend. Planning on getting the 1006 as we are going to the matinee. Pvt msg me
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Post by showgirl on Jul 15, 2016 6:28:30 GMT
Thanks to the timetable changes I now find I can't get home at all from the evening performance of Half A Sixpence as the running time is 2 hours 45 and a 22.15 finish means I wouldn't get home until about 6 am next day. And as ever, all the hotels are full or too dear - not that I want to stay overnight anyway. Will have to hope I can find a free matinee date but I was combining it with Fracked, so that'll mean two trips instead of one now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 9:10:17 GMT
Overtime ban on drivers means that there are no direct trains from London to Chichester now. Southern rail slowly throttling the south
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Post by showgirl on Dec 9, 2016 12:47:29 GMT
Welcome to my world! Some of my trips are now in serious jeopardy and even when I do risk travelling, I am having to leave ever earlier + therefore to buy a more expensive ticket, just to ensure I arrive in time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 13:22:11 GMT
Welcome to my world! Some of my trips are now in serious jeopardy and even when I do risk travelling, I am having to leave ever earlier + therefore to buy a more expensive ticket, just to ensure I arrive in time. Yeah I live in Brighton and it's a nightmare. Last train home last night was half hour late
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Post by showgirl on Dec 9, 2016 14:06:29 GMT
Yup, even if you manage to get to London (or Chichester, etc); you have the greater concern about whether you'll be able to get home again. Not sure what to do about next week's theatre bookings but getting fed up with paying ticket exchange fees, and that's with those venues who will at least allow changes - in some cases you just have to lose the money.
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Post by Marwood on Dec 9, 2016 15:51:18 GMT
Trains were supposedly on strike last night but I got from Purley to London Bridge in the quickest time I've ever managed that journey, approximately 25 minutes, wouldn't mind but I cancelled going for drinks with a friend at London Bridge two days previously because of concerns about the industrial action - bastards!
The government is being absolutely useless about the whole affair, just ignoring it and hoping the whole thing will go away, Chris Grayling gives the impression of someone who doesn't have a clue about how to buy a train ticket, let alone actually travelling on a train on a regular, peak-time basis.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 16:36:36 GMT
As the government said when everything was being privatised: "Private companies put the customer first". In retrospect, we really should have noticed the implied "against the wall".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 16:44:07 GMT
If an industrial dispute is legal, what do you think the UK Government should do?
Previous UK Governments have already changed the law many times, to disfavour workers with grievances.
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Post by bellboard27 on Dec 9, 2016 16:53:28 GMT
Make both sides watch the current tour of Ghost the Musical until one lot cracks.
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Post by Jan on Dec 9, 2016 18:18:32 GMT
As the government said when everything was being privatised: "Private companies put the customer first". In retrospect, we really should have noticed the implied "against the wall". It was true in general though. Days lost to strikes were much higher when rail and other industries were nationalised. What do you want the government to do ? Bring troops in to run the trains ? Put fares up to pay the drivers more ? Ban strikes ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 18:35:40 GMT
As the government said when everything was being privatised: "Private companies put the customer first". In retrospect, we really should have noticed the implied "against the wall". It was true in general though. Days lost to strikes were much higher when rail and other industries were nationalised. What do you want the government to do ? Bring troops in to run the trains ? Put fares up to pay the drivers more ? Ban strikes ? Take away the running of the trains from a company that just does not care about how it treats the people that pay shocking amounts for its 'service'?
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Post by showgirl on Dec 9, 2016 18:56:01 GMT
Require the parties involved to go to binding arbitration.
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Post by Jan on Dec 9, 2016 18:58:12 GMT
It was true in general though. Days lost to strikes were much higher when rail and other industries were nationalised. What do you want the government to do ? Bring troops in to run the trains ? Put fares up to pay the drivers more ? Ban strikes ? Take away the running of the trains from a company that just does not care about how it treats the people that pay shocking amounts for its 'service'? Yes. That's what's supposed to happen. Agree. The railways are in a curious position whereby the track is essentially nationalised but the operating train companies are privately run. It seems an ineffective arrangement.
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 9, 2016 20:49:15 GMT
The 'track' got nationalised after Railtrack went broke, which was caused by disasters, where multiple people lost their lives.
Also that's. It true there has been more strike days since privatisation.
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Post by bengal73 on Dec 9, 2016 23:35:35 GMT
Sadly the government have no desire to intervene when their long game goal is to break the unions. Meanwhile the collateral damage to those relying on the service for work or leisure and in the case of leisure the companies that benefit from that worsens by the day
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 10, 2016 0:04:50 GMT
Chris Grayling has been in his job barely six months and he has been a disaster.
He will not intervene in this distpute and supports Southern heavy handed management and is driven by ideology, not what is best for the travelling public.
This week his colleague the MP for Bromley and Chistlehurat Bob Neill asked him to resign, over his failure to hand the Southeast Trains franchise to TFL/London Overground for services in London, rather put a failured franchise out to re-tender. Again appears to be driven by ideology.
He needs to clear his desk.
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