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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 9:25:58 GMT
The pricing tho may be responsible for the big holes in the audience in rows J to M - but if they can sell the seats around the holes at a big enough price, they may not care. [/i] [/div]
[/quote] So that’s fortunately being addressed from next month when all bar part of 2 rows of premium seats are being reduced to the new lower non premium top price of £65!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 9:28:40 GMT
Interesting that this show hasn’t extended past October. I wonder if it will close? I'm wondering too.... does anybody have any info about possible extension? What’s also interesting is the German production opens around then. Praying they will run concurrently and they won’t close London to ship the set to Germany...
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Post by viserys on Jun 17, 2018 9:54:36 GMT
I'm wondering too.... does anybody have any info about possible extension? What’s also interesting is the German production opens around then. Praying they will run concurrently and they won’t close London to ship the set to Germany...
The last performance in London (if it were indeed the last) would be Saturday 27th October and the first performance in Oberhausen on 10th November - I really don't think there'd be enough time to dismantle the set, ship it over, install it and rehearse in it in time for the first performance. Besides, the "theatre" in Oberhausen is a shoddy tent and smaller than the Dominion, so I think they will need to create a fitting set from scratch anyway. Perhaps the designer is working on a slightly smaller version that would also work for the US Tour then.
I think whether it extends in London really depends on how the next weeks of "tourist high season" go and if the new pricing structure becomes a success. If the producers have their sights set on Broadway after the US tour, surely they'll be wanting to market it as "has been running in London for a year now" and not "shut shop in London after six months due to bad ticket sales"
Who knows, the Dominion might benefit from an influx of dismayed Germans once they realize that the German production is a train wreck in which all the world famous songs have been translated into German
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Post by danb on Jun 17, 2018 10:16:20 GMT
This is such a shame be because I think this has the best sound design in the W/E. I’ve sat under the circle and in the front stalls and found no issues. Outdoor stages are a bugger to balance anyway but Patrick Sullivans mike was inaudible as was the guy covering Jagwire , which is a real shame when you’ve given up time on a two show day to advertise your product. They could’ve used the shows secret weapon an awful lot more too (Danielle Steers), but on the whole I think this gave people a good idea of what to expect and a realistic idea of whether they would enjoy it or not. Still masses of energy from all involved.
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Post by lou on Jun 27, 2018 11:27:38 GMT
I’m planning on going to a Saturday matinee in September. I prefer to be in the stalls and close ish to the stage. I can’t find any discount offers for Saturdays at the moment, have they had any? Am I likely to beat the £50 front row seats that are on sale?
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Post by Mallow on Jun 27, 2018 11:46:22 GMT
I’m coming down this weekend and I’m going to try and come along on Saturday. Are they still only doing day seats during the week? Am I better just going through TodayTix or changing it at the box office?
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Post by viserys on Jun 27, 2018 11:52:34 GMT
You could look at what Todaytix offers (no obligation to buy) and head to the box office to see if you get something better. Saturdays sell fairly well, but it's never sold out, so could luck upon a single seat left somewhere in the middle section of the stalls.
Given the choice between the front row and anything that's even cheaper, I'd definitely second the Monkey, it's fabulous value for money. You couldn't pay me to sit on the far sides or far back of the stalls.
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Post by Mallow on Jun 27, 2018 12:17:46 GMT
You could look at what Todaytix offers (no obligation to buy) and head to the box office to see if you get something better. Saturdays sell fairly well, but it's never sold out, so could luck upon a single seat left somewhere in the middle section of the stalls. Given the choice between the front row and anything that's even cheaper, I'd definitely second the Monkey, it's fabulous value for money. You couldn't pay me to sit on the far sides or far back of the stalls. Thank you! I’ll be in London pretty early so I’ll maybe just head direct to the box office and see. Are they pretty good at bargaining if there’s a single seat somewhere? My list visit I was row E and it was great, I totally agree. Back of the stalls would be a no go for me.
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Post by viserys on Jun 27, 2018 12:29:15 GMT
No idea about that, sorry. I'm firmly glued to Row A which I've booked ages ahead when booking first opened/was extended. But given the fact that they have quite a few empty seats to fill, I'm sure they wouldn't be fussy over a single seat.
I had first seen this in Manchester from Row J and while the overall view was certainly better, there's just something special about being up close, like front row at a rock concert, especially when you get showered with silver and red stuff and very nearly even get some stage blood on you.
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Post by showtoones on Jul 1, 2018 6:08:35 GMT
Interesting that BOOH still hasn't extended past their current booking period through October. Its already July... I wonder if it will extend or just close?
Is it not selling well?
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Post by Mark on Jul 1, 2018 7:09:19 GMT
Curious about this too. It doesn't seem to be selling well at all, but the Dominion is such a barn. I've still not seen it, not so much as it doesn't appeal but because at the moment, there's always been something I more urgently want to see.
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Post by ncbears on Jul 1, 2018 7:51:13 GMT
We were at the Saturday matinee. Stalls seemed full. Except for J, K and L. We were in G. Did buy at box office that morning. No day seats were offerred. I thought the show was bonkers and loud and we had great time. Audience seems to hdve repeatt attendees who cheer loudly during show. Hannah Ducharme was on as Sloane and was on fire. We thought she was best prrformer. Interesting slightly older crowd who grew up on the album. Some younger adults seemed perplexed.
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Post by viserys on Jul 1, 2018 8:15:23 GMT
Book of Mormon has only ever had short booking periods (they're also only booking to October atm) to try and fill the house better. Why try and sell 100-200 seats for performances post October now, when you still have so many seats to fill now? Whether Bat is "selling badly" or not probably depends on calculations: If they expect (and count on) sold-out houses, yes, it's a flop, because it's not selling out at all, so they're not earning as much as they hope. But if they take the size of the theatre into account and manage realistic expectations, 1200-1300 seats sold per performance (maybe a little less mid-week, maybe some more in the weekend) would still mean a sold-out house in a smaller venue and isn't bad at all. I think Bat, like all jukebox musicals, also depends a lot on tourists spontaneously booking once they're in town, daytrippers who only book a few days ahead and decide to end their day with a show, etc. and right now between the heatwave and the football world cup, there are probably many people who prefer to spend the lovely summer evenings outdoors and/or watching football. So they may be waiting to see if sales improve once the classic English summer with rain and cool temperatures is back and the football is over and then decide whether to extend or not. I've not been hiding the fact that I love this show with its terrific rock music to pieces and I'd be very sad to see it go so early when a glorified tribute show like Tina - the Musical is selling out and stuff like Thriller Live and Motown keeps running. Where have all the rock music lovers gone
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Post by Mallow on Jul 1, 2018 8:24:57 GMT
I did both shows on Saturday. Noticeable gaps in the stalls, mainly the expensive rows right in the middle with some of the £70 seats to the side empty also.
I changed it at the box office and asked about day seats even tho I knew the answer would be no. I ended up using TodayTix and got stalls row G for the evening and S for the matinee. Able to easily move down at the matinee to front stalls. I really wish they would review their day seat Mon-Fri policy. I find TodayTix a real faff.
Both shows were excellent, lots of covers on. Danielle is off as she’s hurt her back I believe so it was my first time with Rihane as Zahara. I enjoyed her performance, she was great but I definitely missed the powerhouse vocals, attitude and sass of Danielle. Hannah was on for Sloane and she was wonderful. Sam Toland was on for Ledoux and you could tell he has really taken on board Giovanni’s portrayal. He sounded eerily similar to him at some points. As for Andrew Polec... the role was made for him and those soaring vocals and wild Iggy Pop eyes. He just gets better and better, he’s magnificent. The weak link for me in this cast is Jagwire again. I find him nasally and screechy. I’d love to see Patrick who I think is second understudy to Jag get a show, I could watch him perform as Raven to be honest. He is a superb dancer and really soars in Objects vocally.
The story is nonsense, it could really do with a massive rewrite but everyone knows it. It’s not why I go, I go for the vocal master class delivered on that stage every single performance.
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Post by danb on Jul 1, 2018 8:35:01 GMT
Book of Mormon has only ever had short booking periods (they're also only booking to October atm) to try and fill the house better. Why try and sell 100-200 seats for performances post October now, when you still have so many seats to fill now? Whether Bat is "selling badly" or not probably depends on calculations: If they expect (and count on) sold-out houses, yes, it's a flop, because it's not selling out at all, so they're not earning as much as they hope. But if they take the size of the theatre into account and manage realistic expectations, 1200-1300 seats sold per performance (maybe a little less mid-week, maybe some more in the weekend) would still mean a sold-out house in a smaller venue and isn't bad at all. I think Bat, like all jukebox musicals, also depends a lot on tourists spontaneously booking once they're in town, daytrippers who only book a few days ahead and decide to end their day with a show, etc. and right now between the heatwave and the football world cup, there are probably many people who prefer to spend the lovely summer evenings outdoors and/or watching football. So they may be waiting to see if sales improve once the classic English summer with rain and cool temperatures is back and the football is over and then decide whether to extend or not. I've not been hiding the fact that I love this show with its terrific rock music to pieces and I'd be very sad to see it go so early when a glorified tribute show like Tina - the Musical is selling out and stuff like Thriller Live and Motown keeps running. Where have all the rock music lovers gone 👋 hi, I’m just here 😬 I was only saying to my son the other day that I think I’m done for a bit. After the near perfection of my last visit from row c, I don’t see how I could improve on it. I’d like to see another Strat maybe, but Jordan just seems a bit too MT for me and doesn’t have the madness of Polec. Hopefully their rent is low (thanks Hillsong) and they can keep going past October. Nothing has been in the Dominion that looks like it belonged there since WWRY, so hopefully the owners are cutting it some slack. Plus it gets new marketing materials on a practically monthly basis...I don’t think anyone is giving up on it just yet.
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Post by viserys on Jul 1, 2018 8:41:43 GMT
I still have 2 x 2 shows in July and September waiting (since I have to travel from further afield, I pack two visits into each visit) and having seen the full first cast three times now, I'd be quite interested in seeing understudies in most roles (or new performers after a cast change), except for Strat as I just can't imagine anyone else in the part.
I also agree that it's incredibly hard to fill these huge barns these days anyway - the Palladium seems to have given up on long-runs altogether and shows at the Dominion had struggled since WWRY, so that only leaves Drury Lane, where 42nd Street has certainly done very well, but not selling out daily either. So I do hope that they will allow Bat to try and gather some more momentum - virtually everyone I've spoken to came out loving it and even wanting to return.
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Post by sazzy on Jul 1, 2018 9:03:53 GMT
I dropped in to the Dominion at 5pm yesterday and got £35 rear circle seats for that evening and was pleasantly surprised with the view. In my opinion these seats were far better than rear stalls seats and the sound quality here was excellent. I'd say that the circle was about 70-75% full and I still managed to move further down to the front at the interval after being distracted with the drunken arm waving and singing of the group in front of me. This was the first time that I'd seen any covers (7th visit now) and have to admit that I really missed Danielle Steers as Zahara. The cover was good but I don't think that anybody else can match the supremely talented Danielle with her incredible vocals. I agree with Mallow that Hannah was brilliant as Sloane and Sam did a great job as Ledoux. I'd like to hope that the show will continue on beyond October.
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Post by martello736 on Jul 1, 2018 13:11:31 GMT
Book of Mormon has only ever had short booking periods (they're also only booking to October atm) to try and fill the house better. Why try and sell 100-200 seats for performances post October now, when you still have so many seats to fill now? Does that system work? I remember discovering a couple of years ago that BoM only sold a few months in advance and finding it really bizarre that the then best selling show in the West End wouldn't try and sell tickets several months ahead. Surely when you discover the January 2019 tickets you want aren't available you choose not to buy tickets rather than rescheduling your trip for earlier? I don't know much about ticket sales but it seems counter-intuitive. The story is nonsense, it could really do with a massive rewrite but everyone knows it. It’s not why I go, I go for the vocal master class delivered on that stage every single performance. I wonder if the story might have undergone more rewrites had Jim Steinman not been so ill. He isn't in much of a state to work on it and it could be seen as disrespectful to instigate massive rewrites to someone else's script. I also agree that it's incredibly hard to fill these huge barns these days anyway The Lyceum and Apollo Victoria are both doing okay, so I guess it's just a case of trying to find the right show. I imagine if Frozen goes into the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane then it won't budge for several years.
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Post by viserys on Jul 1, 2018 13:52:44 GMT
Does that system work? I remember discovering a couple of years ago that BoM only sold a few months in advance and finding it really bizarre that the then best selling show in the West End wouldn't try and sell tickets several months ahead. Well it obviously works for BoM, otherwise they hadn't stuck with it. Perhaps it works to permanently vibe that they are sold out and that tickets are hard to get, as it makes people think "wow, this show is always sold out, it must be terrific!" I wonder if the story might have undergone more rewrites had Jim Steinman not been so ill Well, considering Steinman had been working on his Peter Pan thing since the late 60s, you'd think he had plenty of time to get it right. That said, I don't think the story is that terrible anyway, it's a fairly decent Romeo & Juliet pastiche and zips along well enough. It doesn't try to be anything more than it is (like WWRY did) and is just fun. If anything, I'd personally say, drop the whole mutant nonsense and just make it a simple "rich girl meets bad boy, Daddy flips his lid" story but that would go against the core of what Steinman wanted with his "forever 18" Peter Pan thing. The Lyceum and Apollo Victoria are both doing okay, so I guess it's just a case of trying to find the right show. I imagine if Frozen goes into the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane then it won't budge for several years. True enough - I think there are just some shows that have at some point crossed from being a musical to being something of a tourist theme park thing, something that seems to be around forever, just like Les Mis and Phantom. And whether that's a good thing because it keeps people employed and producers in funds to produce new stuff or a bad thing because it clogs up theatres forever and stops audiences from giving new things a go is another debate. As for Frozen, I wouldn't be so sure, it's not the juggernaut everyone expected on Broadway - I'm seeing this more on the level of Aladdin in terms of Disney success. And I also wonder if too many Disney/family-orientated shows won't eventually start cannibalizing themselves because there's only so much money going around. Which brings me back to wondering why Bat isn't doing better, as it's such a different style musically to most everything in the West End and should find its own audience, much like WWRY did.
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Post by Mark on Jul 1, 2018 14:17:13 GMT
Wicked certainly doesn't sell out the Apollo Victoria. I've been a few times when it's been half empty. That said it is double the size of a lot of theatres And probably sells a lot of tickets at full price.
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Post by Jon on Jul 1, 2018 15:46:54 GMT
Wicked certainly doesn't sell out the Apollo Victoria. I've been a few times when it's been half empty. That said it is double the size of a lot of theatres And probably sells a lot of tickets at full price. Wicked only needs to do strong business on Friday and Saturday to make its running costs, the rest of the week is pure profit.
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Post by david on Jul 11, 2018 6:50:30 GMT
OCR now available on iTunes £17.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 13, 2018 21:34:11 GMT
Saw this again tonight - I love that the producers keep trying new things to perfect it. It's still excellent - more light hues/tones and some tweaks to the score, suits the new blood red imagery. One hell of a marketing budget, one hell of a show. If you haven't been, then go! Still the battiest show in town!
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Post by viserys on Jul 14, 2018 6:02:19 GMT
Not a fan of the new imagery and its colours, I thought the last incarnation was perfect in its cheesy 80s-movie-poster way. I also don't see how changing it will put more bums on seats. All they (and we, the fans) can hope for is that with the world cup and the heatwave coming to an end bookings will increase and they will extend through the winter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 8:17:46 GMT
I agree, the original imagery reflected the artwork of the album perfectly, and now this doesn’t really sell it for me. I’m going in two weeks’ time and it bothers me (more than it probably should) that I may get a programme with this basic red look.
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