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Post by parsley1 on Nov 15, 2023 9:41:30 GMT
4 hours with a start time of 18:30
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 15, 2023 9:41:53 GMT
Manchester Opera House 14-23rd March
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 15, 2023 9:43:33 GMT
Saturdays are matinees only.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 15, 2023 9:56:47 GMT
4 hours is only losing about 40 to 50 minutes of material. That isn't a cut, it is a light trim.
Given how repetitious the plays are, there is no reason why the run time for a cut version should exceed 2hrs 30 including interval. 80 minutes for part one and 60 for part two.
4 hours is cruel on audiences and actors.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 15, 2023 9:59:43 GMT
When I directed these plays (cut together in one play), we doubled Northumberland with Shallow. That would work well for SirIan. Olivier doubled Hotspur in Part I and Shallow in Part II. Another time he played Mr Puff in Sheridan's "The Critic" and Oedipus Rex in the same evening. We don't get actors doing flashy doubling like that now - Bertie Carvell should revive the tradition. The plays were famously combined into one by Orson Welles for his film Chimes at Midnight. It worked OK. I was very much aware of that famous doubling but the project came about when I was chatting to the actor who was playing Lear for me and he said he always wanted to be Shallow and hence the production started to be shaped. A certain Ed Holcroft was the Hotspur in the production... Wonder what happened to him?!! |
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Post by nash16 on Nov 15, 2023 10:08:39 GMT
Icke is, as always, just photocopying what his daddy, Ivo van Hove, has done before. I feel his whole career is so unoriginal in this respect. The running time of this a prime example. 4 hours is only losing about 40 to 50 minutes of material. That isn't a cut, it is a light trim. Given how repetitious the plays are, there is no reason why the run time for a cut version should exceed 2hrs 30 including interval. 80 minutes for part one and 60 for part two. 4 hours is cruel on audiences and actors. |
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Post by Rory on Nov 15, 2023 10:09:30 GMT
This will be no small feat as McKellen will be 85. I agree 4 hours is an endurance test for everybody.
I wonder why it didn't go to an ATG venue given they are producing it?
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Post by Jonnyboy on Nov 15, 2023 10:17:28 GMT
I was ready to book tickets for a few people and they’ve all dropped out at hearing the running time!! 😂
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 15, 2023 10:27:20 GMT
This will be no small feat as McKellen will be 85. I agree 4 hours is an endurance test for everybody. I wonder why it didn't go to an ATG venue given they are producing it? Thankfully Falstaff is not on stage throughout. And in a 4 hour version, he will get breaks |
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Post by cavocado on Nov 15, 2023 10:34:34 GMT
I was ready to book tickets for a few people and they’ve all dropped out at hearing the running time!! 😂 Ha ha, yes I'm hoping that will shorten the queue for tickets! |
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Post by mkb on Nov 15, 2023 12:07:27 GMT
Who thought 18:30 was a suitable start time on week nights in Wimbledon? No wonder provincial theatre is the preserve of the retired. Basically no-one who works normal working hours can do this unless (a) they work next door, (b) they take annual leave, or (c) they do the Saturday matinée. I reluctantly went for (c) and pray that the football game I'm going to is rescheduled for Sunday.
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Post by Dave B on Nov 15, 2023 12:09:48 GMT
Would anyone with access today be able to give prices for Wimbledon please and thank you?
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Post by david on Nov 15, 2023 12:16:13 GMT
1sr preview price for Wimbledon Dave B |
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Post by Jonnyboy on Nov 15, 2023 12:17:54 GMT
Gone for a Saturday as I can’t be sure I can be there for 18:30 on a weeknight. £75 centre front row! Can’t wait! Although with it being four hours and on front row, can’t sleep!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 15, 2023 12:20:54 GMT
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Post by mkb on Nov 15, 2023 12:28:25 GMT
Gone for a Saturday as I can’t be sure I can be there for 18:30 on a weeknight. £75 centre front row! Can’t wait! Although with it being four hours and on front row, can’t sleep! In Wimbledon, it's even better value at £55 for the front row stalls. Second row there is £75. |
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Post by Jonnyboy on Nov 15, 2023 12:34:23 GMT
Gone for a Saturday as I can’t be sure I can be there for 18:30 on a weeknight. £75 centre front row! Can’t wait! Although with it being four hours and on front row, can’t sleep! In Wimbledon, it's even better value at £55 for the front row stalls. Second row there is £75. Ah, you can get £55 front row in Manchester if you do opening night and go for the end of the row, but as a previous poster said 18:30 is not feasible for most people working that day. |
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Post by david on Nov 15, 2023 12:37:03 GMT
Booked for the sat night show in Manchester. Front row seeing IM in a Shakespeare play should be special.
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Post by parsley1 on Nov 15, 2023 13:22:17 GMT
£45 for Wimbledon opening night front row for ATG card
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 13:26:43 GMT
Chimes at Midnight is superb Yes it is. As an adaptation of the plays it is OK - it cuts out various quite dull rebellions and so on which give the wider political context and focusses on the main characters and their relationships. As such it is a little bit like the cut versions of Hamlet that we almost always get. I'll have to watch this never seen it, Welles as Falstaff was one of the perfect roles that could ever be thought up. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 13:32:11 GMT
Again Sir Ian playing Falstaff past his 85th birthday shows amazing durability.I wonder if he'll wear padding/fat suit as that over a several month run will make the role an even bigger physical undertaking.
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Post by themanfromstratford on Nov 15, 2023 13:42:39 GMT
Does anybody know how the under 30s tickets will be able to be accessed when they go on sale?
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Post by Jon on Nov 15, 2023 13:43:31 GMT
I know ATG has had success with pre West End runs at Richmond and Brighton but Wimbledon and the Opera House are huge! This will be no small feat as McKellen will be 85. I agree 4 hours is an endurance test for everybody. I wonder why it didn't go to an ATG venue given they are producing it? Technically, it is going to ATG venues with the runs in Wimbledon and Manchester but I suspect it's theatre availability plus the DoY is smaller both stage wise and capacity than the Noel Coward. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 15, 2023 14:33:38 GMT
Again Sir Ian playing Falstaff past his 85th birthday shows amazing durability.I wonder if he'll wear padding/fat suit as that over a several month run will make the role an even bigger physical undertaking. Does Falstaff need to be obviously fat? In the same way as when teenagers think of anyone over 25 as being old, slender youths can too often think that anyone who isn't slim and toned is fat, ugly and call them out as such. Sometimes that is done with affection. Sometimes it is done with real cruelty. Given how many of the descriptions of Falstaff come from Hal, I think it can be viewed as the immature behaviour of a younger man |
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Post by Rory on Nov 15, 2023 14:45:30 GMT
The artwork possibly suggests modern dress??
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