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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 4, 2016 19:20:04 GMT
Beverley sings it beautifully (and better than Alexandra), but her acting is shockingly amateurish and her accent is laughable. Alexandra is a much better actress and just overall very charming in the role and dances very well. I found her acting fine in Memphis, it never stood out to me as particularly poor. Where as with Alex in BG......i didn't find it shocking....but i can't say it was good either. Given i saw them in different roles it's impossible to judge fairly but Bev seemed a better actress to me overall.... |
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Post by Kim on Jul 4, 2016 19:55:41 GMT
In Germany they used the original tour cabin set, so it might make a come back in London given that it's a six month sit down. I hope you're right about Queen of the Night. The new version is awful awful awful I really don't see how they do not see that. I can't imagine Bev or Deborah Cox in that garb doing this arrangement. I think the only reason I didn't mind the tour Queen of the Night is because of the younger Rachel's, they suited it, although the first few times I saw Carole she didn't seem to comfortable with it. I really do hate the costumes for it and really can't imagine Bev doing it, although if she gets the new gold dress I'll be very happy |
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Post by Kim on Jul 4, 2016 20:03:09 GMT
It was always gonna be the tour set, the tour cast are only getting 2 days rehearsal, and the only 2 'new' ensemble (Omari Bernard & Annie Kitchen) both were in the first tour cast, so not as much rehearsal needed. The only thing I'd prefer set wise is the original house, and as much as I don't mind the tour Queen of the Night, it suits the younger Rachel's better. Tho the original was a lot better Yeah I knew it was the tour cast from the beginning, the announced that back then do i dont know why It's being released now? Will Ibinabo Jack have to leave early to do Dreamgirls? I'd prefer them to use the original two level house too as well as the original bar. What is the tour set like compared to the orignal - much different? It looks like an 'arena' from what I've seen. Yes I hope they do a different Queen of the Night too, but I don't think they will. I don't think Beverley would like doing the new one much They've probably re-announced the cast for the 4 Fletchers and the 4 different ensemble members, no idea when Ibinabo will leave as obviously it leaves them short a Nicki cover (her ensemble track isn't as important the amount of times I saw it cut down to two scenes) The tour set is a lot simpler then the original, the house being the biggest, although I can't moan about the house set since I saw the completely stripped one a few times. The karaoke bar was completely stripped down to virtually nothing, and during the academy awards scene they took out the screens and Ray Court originally walked around the auditorium during One Moment in Time but that had gone by the 3rd show |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 20:17:41 GMT
Yeah I knew it was the tour cast from the beginning, the announced that back then do i dont know why It's being released now? Will Ibinabo Jack have to leave early to do Dreamgirls? I'd prefer them to use the original two level house too as well as the original bar. What is the tour set like compared to the orignal - much different? It looks like an 'arena' from what I've seen. Yes I hope they do a different Queen of the Night too, but I don't think they will. I don't think Beverley would like doing the new one much They've probably re-announced the cast for the 4 Fletchers and the 4 different ensemble members, no idea when Ibinabo will leave as obviously it leaves them short a Nicki cover (her ensemble track isn't as important the amount of times I saw it cut down to two scenes) The tour set is a lot simpler then the original, the house being the biggest, although I can't moan about the house set since I saw the completely stripped one a few times. The karaoke bar was completely stripped down to virtually nothing, and during the academy awards scene they took out the screens and Ray Court originally walked around the auditorium during One Moment in Time but that had gone by the 3rd show Thanks for sharing! Very interesting! I presume Ibinabo will have to leave around October as I think that's when Dreamgirls start rehearsals? I presume they'll draft someone else in? Yeah the the tour set does look much more simple. The set isn't much really, it relies on the shutters a lot of the time. I hope they bring back where the stalker hangs at the beginning though rather than a projection! Yeah the karaoke bar looks so striped down! I hope it doesn't look bare in London as the Dominion stage is huge!! |
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Post by ali973 on Jul 4, 2016 20:55:06 GMT
Also, in the Oscar scene they no longer have the Oscars "broadcast" on the flat screens. But I really think we might get the original house back for the Dominion.
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Post by daniel on Jul 4, 2016 23:40:19 GMT
Never saw this in town so sadly missed Beverley, however did see it on tour with Alexandra, Zoe Birkett and Carole Stennett. Alex sung it very well (generally speaking, there were a few moments I wasn't keen on) but I found her acting to be poor. On the whole Zoe was infinitely better, and streets ahead of Carole who I just found to be absolutely terrible in the role. Personal opinion of her in the role, nothing against her as a person and no offence to anybody who enjoyed her portrayal, I just didn't warm to her at all and would have much rathered Rachel John be in that role.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 0:29:14 GMT
I hope we get the cabin back in its fine form for the Dominion.
Carole Stennett was a great Nikki toward the end of the run in London. Never saw her Rachel.
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Post by ali973 on Jul 5, 2016 5:28:58 GMT
I agree on Carole, she was a good Nikki but her Rachel is not good at all (I saw her only understudying the role in London). They really ought to have given her Nikki back full time and Rachel John should have been alternate Rachel. Her singing and acting was miles ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 7:36:07 GMT
I agree on Carole, she was a good Nikki but her Rachel is not good at all (I saw her only understudying the role in London). They really ought to have given her Nikki back full time and Rachel John should have been alternate Rachel. Her singing and acting was miles ahead. Yeah I agree she was a good Nikki but I've never seen her as Rachel. I presume Rachel John likes her role at the moment as it means she gets to perform 8 times a week and is 1st cover Rachel anyway, Carole only gets to perform twice a week. |
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Post by CG on the loose on Jul 5, 2016 11:02:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 11:18:01 GMT
The original house was like a proper cabin that moved on stage and twisted, it had an upstairs too. From the look of the picture, this looks like the tour set stretched across the stage rather than the orignal |
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Post by CG on the loose on Jul 5, 2016 12:23:55 GMT
Thanks George - I haven't seen the tour, so wasn't sure how they differed and couldn't really see enough in the picture to see if it was the London version! Of course, promo photos don't necessarily represent the final set...
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Post by ali973 on Jul 5, 2016 12:42:55 GMT
It's the tour cabin. No Queen of the Night pictures yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 12:43:51 GMT
Thanks George - I haven't seen the tour, so wasn't sure how they differed and couldn't really see enough in the picture to see if it was the London version! Of course, promo photos don't necessarily represent the final set... I never saw it on tour either but the picture of the house looks the same as the tour pictures. Yes that's what I was thinking too! I don't think the set is in the Dominion yet so maybe they just did really quick promo photos? I hope they up the set from the tour because it looks quite basic. They've never released a picture of Queen of the Night so maybe that's being changed again? |
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Post by Kim on Jul 5, 2016 13:03:49 GMT
The pictures were done somewhen between Milton Keynes and Leeds going by who's in the pics as due to injuries they had 3 extra ensemble join at different points, I'm pretty sure Ben watched in Milton Keynes so maybe it was done then
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:18:36 GMT
The pictures were done somewhen between Milton Keynes and Leeds going by who's in the pics as due to injuries they had 3 extra ensemble join at different points, I'm pretty sure Ben watched in Milton Keynes so maybe it was done then They've only changed the two leads so you could be right! I don't think they would've done proper cast photos yet as it hasn't opened. We'll see when it opens soon! I think they will change Queen of the Night or surely they would've included that as a picture too? |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 5, 2016 13:58:05 GMT
I never saw nibie Adelphi production so can't compare sets but I rather liked the set I saw on tour, I thought it was quite good. I had no complaints about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 14:07:21 GMT
I have a sad feeling we won't be getting the cabin now if the set is the same as the photos.
The Dominion has been pretty much empty since War Of The World's, so it is not out of the realm of possibility the production photos were taken in the London set? |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 5, 2016 18:02:47 GMT
Yes they would spend all of that time and money putting the set in early just to take some photos. (Bangs head on table) I have a sad feeling we won't be getting the cabin now if the set is the same as the photos.
The Dominion has been pretty much empty since War Of The World's, so it is not out of the realm of possibility the production photos were taken in the London set? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 18:33:23 GMT
Yes they would spend all of that time and money putting the set in early just to take some photos. (Bangs head on table) I have a sad feeling we won't be getting the cabin now if the set is the same as the photos.
The Dominion has been pretty much empty since War Of The World's, so it is not out of the realm of possibility the production photos were taken in the London set? And also there's been some Hillsong Charity Concert thing for the past month or something like that? I presume the set will come in the coming weeks but I doubt it's there just yet |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 20:36:08 GMT
Never saw this in town so sadly missed Beverley, however did see it on tour with Alexandra, Zoe Birkett and Carole Stennett. Alex sung it very well (generally speaking, there were a few moments I wasn't keen on) but I found her acting to be poor. On the whole Zoe was infinitely better, and streets ahead of Carole who I just found to be absolutely terrible in the role. Personal opinion of her in the role, nothing against her as a person and no offence to anybody who enjoyed her portrayal, I just didn't warm to her at all and would have much rathered Rachel John be in that role. It's all so subjective. Haven't seen Carole in this. I did see her as Nahla in the Lion King a few years back and she was terrific. I saw Alexandra in Dublin and Belfast and I have to say, there was a marked difference in her acting. It was around 6 months apart, but she really had come a long way by the Belfast shows. I thought she fit in pretty seemlessly as an actress rather than just AB the 'singer.' I adore her voice so she was always going to be fab from that point of view (for me!). I haven't seen Zoe but I'm not really a fan of her voice. Rachel John has an incredible voice and I think she'd be a better alternate Rachel than Carol. |
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Post by Kim on Jul 5, 2016 22:10:39 GMT
The Queen of the Night promo shot is on Instagram. Interesting costume...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 0:15:48 GMT
The Queen of the Night promo shot is on Instagram. Interesting costume... It's the new version then, though the costume has been slightly changed for Beverley. |
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Post by ali973 on Jul 6, 2016 6:52:19 GMT
It's slightly less tacky. Thankfully the feathers are gone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 7:09:01 GMT
She looks great in the outfit though!  |
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