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Post by Jon on Oct 25, 2024 9:11:01 GMT
The producers saying it may return to London comes across as an attempt to say the show was a success when closing early means it wasn't a success.
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Post by Rory on Oct 25, 2024 9:12:54 GMT
It sounds like it just wasn't ready for the West End.
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Post by bigsymalone on Oct 25, 2024 9:18:45 GMT
I feel sorry for the writers. They were badly served by their producers. Rather opening in a flashy West End production which exposed the material, the show should have started modestly, say at the Fringe, then brought to a small London venue. It could have built from there. Plus they really should have worked with an experienced director who can stretch them.
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Post by wefox on Oct 25, 2024 9:20:58 GMT
Oficial website says 19? Still, that was quick… If it is still open until the 19 of January, and depending on ticket prices, I wouldn’t mind another visit to this. That being said…I feel that I enjoy the music of their shows, but not the shows themselves. Six feels like a concert (and I had plenty of those, is not what I’m looking for when I go to the theatre), and the show adds very little to the music/cd. WAISS…there was a lot I didn’t like, starting with the “human furniture”. Many of the jokes didn’t land with me. But the music…quite a few earwormers and I’m still thinking about some. Also enjoyed some of the choreography, I’m a sucker for ensemble dance numbers (and it even has an always welcomed tap dancing number, those always bring me joy). I also feel that this show is a bit of a “grower”, and watching it again, knowing what will happen, will allow me to enjoy it more. Won’t miss it terribly though |
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Post by ceebee on Oct 25, 2024 9:21:09 GMT
Load of junk. Glad to free up a theatre.
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Post by wefox on Oct 25, 2024 9:24:06 GMT
Also, think the Garrick was the wrong venue. This level of campiness is what I expect at the Other Palace, feel that shows like this get lost in bigger stages/theatres
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 25, 2024 9:25:10 GMT
Website is still currently booking until February! |
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Post by Jon on Oct 25, 2024 9:28:19 GMT
I feel sorry for the writers. They were badly served by their producers. Rather opening in a flashy West End production which exposed the material, the show should have started modestly, say at the Fringe, then brought to a small London venue. It could have built from there. Plus they really should have worked with an experienced director who can stretch them. I do think Marlow and Moss have to take some blame too as the creatives, it's not like they were novices, they had a big hit show with Six and perhaps that success went to their head and they thought the next show they could do everything. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 25, 2024 9:35:20 GMT
I think Marlow and Moss have been a victim of their own success - Six was so incredibly successful that now no one wants to say no to them (either because they don't feel they can, or because they think saying yes will lead to financial success even if through a sub-par product). We've seen other creatives similarly get to a point where someone really SHOULD have told them no, but no one felt like they could. (JL R&J, for example...)
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 25, 2024 9:38:51 GMT
Thats a shame. Sad to see something new and original close. It was wonky but i still enjoyed it.
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Post by Jon on Oct 25, 2024 9:40:44 GMT
I think Marlow and Moss have been a victim of their own success - Six was so incredibly successful that now no one wants to say no to them (either because they don't feel they can, or because they think saying yes will lead to financial success even if through a sub-par product). We've seen other creatives similarly get to a point where someone really SHOULD have told them no, but no one felt like they could. (JL R&J, for example...) I think Legally Blonde which Lucy Moss directed at the Open Air was a bit of a warning sign as well IMO I wonder if they needed better producers as well. Kenny Wax and George Stiles have done a great job nurturing Six into the hit it became but it also means perhaps they gave too much creative freedom to Marlow and Moss for their next project. Someone like Sonia Friedman for example probably would have insisted on bringing in an experienced director |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 25, 2024 9:50:42 GMT
I think Marlow and Moss have been a victim of their own success - Six was so incredibly successful that now no one wants to say no to them (either because they don't feel they can, or because they think saying yes will lead to financial success even if through a sub-par product). We've seen other creatives similarly get to a point where someone really SHOULD have told them no, but no one felt like they could. (JL R&J, for example...) I wouldn’t feel too sorry for them. They can just count all the cash rolling in from Six. |
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Post by Matt on Oct 25, 2024 9:55:20 GMT
I feel sorry for the writers. I feel they are one trick ponies. |
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Post by unseaworthy on Oct 25, 2024 10:01:28 GMT
With this, Fly More Than You Fall and Face In The Crowd it has been a terrible few months for new musicals.
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Post by matthew90 on Oct 25, 2024 10:02:11 GMT
And TodayTix is doing a 50% sale. The musical itself does need some heavy editing and felt way more suited to a theatre like the criterion, but I thought it really dealt with some very profound topics in a very accessible way (grief, lgbt shame, attachment theory....). What I think really hurt this show was the marketing. It made me not want to go, as it made it seem like it was going to be a very superficial Gen Z monstrosity when actually it was so much more sophisticated than that. I had to tell several people to ignore the poster and go, and then they ended up enjoying it.
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Post by Paulw on Oct 25, 2024 10:13:32 GMT
With this, Fly More Than You Fall and Face In The Crowd it has been a terrible few months for new musicals. You could add into that the early closing of Cake and the other monstrosity PTM put in the Criterion and The Turbine closure! |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 25, 2024 10:14:26 GMT
I think Marlow and Moss have been a victim of their own success - Six was so incredibly successful that now no one wants to say no to them (either because they don't feel they can, or because they think saying yes will lead to financial success even if through a sub-par product). We've seen other creatives similarly get to a point where someone really SHOULD have told them no, but no one felt like they could. (JL R&J, for example...) I wouldn’t feel too sorry for them. They can just count all the cash rolling in from Six. I'm not really feeling sorry for them. But I do believe they are talented writers and that they could put out another genuinely good show, if they received the right kind of feedback. So I suppose I'm feeling more sorry for British theatre in general, because it would always be nice to have more British shows go on to be international hits, but this one won't. |
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Post by danb on Oct 25, 2024 10:19:24 GMT
I think that very few of the creatives are blameless. The producers just saw cash & Marlow & Moss thought that they could just slop any old Gen xyz nonsense onstage and people would bow down and love it. Musically it isn’t a failure, but as a piece of engaging MT I thought it poor and with very narrow appeal (which appears to be borne out by erm…nobody going to see it.)
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Post by ladidah on Oct 25, 2024 10:22:58 GMT
I loved that it was an original show, and the performers gave it everything.
It just wasn't ready for the west end IMO.
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Post by usbuzzer on Oct 25, 2024 10:39:20 GMT
Such a shame! I'm very looking forward to my visit to the show next week. Btw. it always hurts when they discount a show you've bought full-priced tickets for in advance...
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Post by lotster on Oct 25, 2024 10:45:34 GMT
I booked this very early when prices were discounted. I then couldn't go on the evening I chose, and then lost all enthusiasm for it and couldn't motivate myself to go. So now I have credit for that ticket, but wasn't prepared to pay the higher price. Still trying to work out if it's worth going to. Not convinced I'll enjoy it. Am praying 42 Balloons may come to the Garrick instead. I'd LOVE that.
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Post by hannechalk on Oct 25, 2024 10:48:08 GMT
I do like Jo Foster's energy and will keep an eye on their future work.
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Post by ladidah on Oct 25, 2024 10:48:56 GMT
I would watch a video on youtube and go from there
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Post by Phantom of London on Oct 25, 2024 11:04:11 GMT
It wasn’t too bad and I enjoyed elements of it. I thought this was really a two hander though.
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Post by thatsshowbizkids on Oct 25, 2024 13:09:07 GMT
Absolutely no sympathy for the writers! Partly their indulgence that has lead here...Especially Lucy Moss who should clearly never be let near a rehearsal room again.
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