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Post by mistressjojo on Apr 21, 2017 15:41:50 GMT
It's amazing though that for 'The Pillowman' they cancelled the whole production and didn't cover with someone reading from a script (and rather annoying since I'd driven 150 miles to see it.) And you were incredibly unlucky - David Tennant is rarely off unless seriously poorly. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 21:05:54 GMT
And you were incredibly unlucky - David Tennant is rarely off unless seriously poorly. Yes, so rare. VIrtually the entire London run of Hamlet. So rare. |
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Post by Jon on Apr 23, 2017 14:10:42 GMT
How many years do shows can reside in a particular theatre? I know shows close due to not grossing enough money and/or the theatre owner enabling a stop clause but I'm curious if about long runners which moves theatres like Mamma Mia!, was that the producers decision or the theatre owner?
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Post by daniel on Apr 23, 2017 15:56:49 GMT
How many years do shows can reside in a particular theatre? I know shows close due to not grossing enough money and/or the theatre owner enabling a stop clause but I'm curious if about long runners which moves theatres like Mamma Mia!, was that the producers decision or the theatre owner? It could be either - often when shows aren't selling great and end up downsizing to a smaller venue, it's in the interest of both Producer and Theatre. Equally if a theatre owner has a particular show lined up, they'll negotiate with the incumbent show to leave, like in the case of Jersey Boys moving for Miss Saigon. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 16:04:37 GMT
And you were incredibly unlucky - David Tennant is rarely off unless seriously poorly. Yes, so rare. VIrtually the entire London run of Hamlet. So rare. I feel like having a major operation on his back counts as 'seriously poorly'. |
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Post by Jon on Apr 23, 2017 16:12:28 GMT
It could be either - often when shows aren't selling great and end up downsizing to a smaller venue, it's in the interest of both Producer and Theatre. Equally if a theatre owner has a particular show lined up, they'll negotiate with the incumbent show to leave, like in the case of Jersey Boys moving for Miss Saigon. Thanks, I assume with Mamma Mia! Cameron Mackintosh offered them the Novello at a reduced rent so he could have the Prince of Wales for The Book of Mormon. The move was announced a year in advance as well. I'm curious if a show can hand back a closing notice due to increase in sales even if the theatre owner has lined up another show, I know WWRY did and I think Blood Brothers changed its closing date but it must be very rare |
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Post by tmesis on Apr 23, 2017 18:28:07 GMT
I think it's always a shame when a really nice theatre like the Novello has a long runner there like 'Mamma Mia.' When I saw 'Crazy for You' there a few years ago it had only just been restored by Cameron Mackintosh and was looking really lovely. It was a real pleasure to visit. Since I'm not one of these mad people who wants to revisit 'Mamma Mia' every week I'm now unlikely to have the pleasure of experiencing it again in the foreseeable.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 23, 2017 19:36:47 GMT
Does anyone know if there's anywhere that gives the sizes of the West End theatres' stages? As I sat in the Criterion last night I found myself idly wondering how many times over its stage would fit into that of the Theatre Royal Drury Lane!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 19:14:23 GMT
Yes, a book called "The Original British Theatre Directory" from Richmond House Publishing has that data for the entire country. Used to be in a book published annually until 2009, but now online and subscription only. Don't know if the info is available anywhere else. Anyway, the Criterion has a proscenium opening of 7.62m, height 3.81m, depth of sightlines 6.63m. Theatre Royal Drury Lame: 12.95m, 7.92m, 24.69m. So roughly 4 times. I once heard that you could fit the entirety of the Fortune Theatre, foyer, box office, toilets, auditorium, stage etc, just on the stage of the Dominion. Does anyone know if that's actually true? |
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 25, 2017 21:54:41 GMT
Yes, a book called "The Original British Theatre Directory" from Richmond House Publishing has that data for the entire country. Used to be in a book published annually until 2009, but now online and subscription only. Don't know if the info is available anywhere else. Anyway, the Criterion has a proscenium opening of 7.62m, height 3.81m, depth of sightlines 6.63m. Theatre Royal Drury Lame: 12.95m, 7.92m, 24.69m. So roughly 4 times. I once heard that you could fit the entirety of the Fortune Theatre, foyer, box office, toilets, auditorium, stage etc, just on the stage of the Dominion. Does anyone know if that's actually true? I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say I don't think we'll ever find out if that is *actually* true, it'll only ever be a theory...  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 22:08:13 GMT
I don't know, you could certainly work out the perimeter measurements of the Fortune easily enough if you had a decent map, then it would simply be a matter of finding out the area of the Dominion stage. Up-and-down would be a little harder, but you could certainly do the side-to-side and front-to-back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 22:26:16 GMT
I once heard that you could fit the entirety of the Fortune Theatre, foyer, box office, toilets, auditorium, stage etc, just on the stage of the Dominion. Does anyone know if that's actually true? I don't know, you could certainly work out the perimeter measurements of the Fortune easily enough if you had a decent map, then it would simply be a matter of finding out the area of the Dominion stage. Up-and-down would be a little harder, but you could certainly do the side-to-side and front-to-back. But how do you propose to get the entirety of the Fortune Theatre into the Dominion? Would you knock a massive hole in the back wall of the Dominion and then drag the entirety of the Fortune through it on to the stage? Or would you painstakingly demolish the Fortune, carefully labeling the fragments, and then take them into the Dominion by the usual stage access and rebuild the Fortune on the Dominion's stage? Neither method would be free of potential pitfalls. And how do you propose to support the weight of the entirety of the Fortune Theatre on the Dominion's stage? I doubt that it is feasible. Better to leave the Fortune Theatre where it is, I feel. |
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Post by firefingers on Apr 25, 2017 23:00:47 GMT
Having been backstage at the Dominion, I'd guess that it sadly isn't true. The stage isn't that big outside of what you see, not megaamounts of wing space or anything. But it could be...
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Post by bellboard27 on Apr 26, 2017 6:32:35 GMT
I once heard that you could fit the entirety of the Fortune Theatre, foyer, box office, toilets, auditorium, stage etc, just on the stage of the Dominion. Does anyone know if that's actually true? I don't know, you could certainly work out the perimeter measurements of the Fortune easily enough if you had a decent map, then it would simply be a matter of finding out the area of the Dominion stage. Up-and-down would be a little harder, but you could certainly do the side-to-side and front-to-back. But how do you propose to get the entirety of the Fortune Theatre into the Dominion? Would you knock a massive hole in the back wall of the Dominion and then drag the entirety of the Fortune through it on to the stage? Or would you painstakingly demolish the Fortune, carefully labeling the fragments, and then take them into the Dominion by the usual stage access and rebuild the Fortune on the Dominion's stage? Neither method would be free of potential pitfalls. And how do you propose to support the weight of the entirety of the Fortune Theatre on the Dominion's stage? I doubt that it is feasible. Better to leave the Fortune Theatre where it is, I feel. No. Why not have it as a project for the next theatreboard meet up? Better surely than just sitting around drinking. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 6:46:54 GMT
Or would you painstakingly demolish the Fortune, carefully labeling the fragments, and then take them into the Dominion by the usual stage access and rebuild the Fortune on the Dominion's stage? If you dispense with the requirement to rebuild the Fortune then I have no doubt that it will fit quite easily, although the comfort and functionality may be somewhat impaired. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 13:07:04 GMT
Is it really?! Jeez, the Fortune Theatre must be tiny!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 14:09:35 GMT
What's the difference between a producer and an executive producer?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 14:51:33 GMT
What's the difference between a producer and an executive producer? I think a producer puts money into a show, an executive producer does that and also sits in rehearsals when they choose and has a say in what goes on the actual stage or what is going on backstage? Is that about right? |
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Post by mistressjojo on Apr 26, 2017 14:51:34 GMT
What's the difference between a producer and an executive producer? An Executive Producer is responsible for getting the project going. They are usually the one getting the financial backers on board, development and marketing of the final product. The producer works under the EP to create the performance once it's been given the go ahead. They look after the physical production side of things - casting, lighting etc as well as budgeting the available finance. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 15:26:10 GMT
I once heard that you could fit the entirety of the Fortune Theatre, foyer, box office, toilets, auditorium, stage etc, just on the stage of the Dominion. Does anyone know if that's actually true? I don't know, you could certainly work out the perimeter measurements of the Fortune easily enough if you had a decent map, then it would simply be a matter of finding out the area of the Dominion stage. Up-and-down would be a little harder, but you could certainly do the side-to-side and front-to-back. But how do you propose to get the entirety of the Fortune Theatre into the Dominion? Would you knock a massive hole in the back wall of the Dominion and then drag the entirety of the Fortune through it on to the stage? Or would you painstakingly demolish the Fortune, carefully labeling the fragments, and then take them into the Dominion by the usual stage access and rebuild the Fortune on the Dominion's stage? Neither method would be free of potential pitfalls. And how do you propose to support the weight of the entirety of the Fortune Theatre on the Dominion's stage? I doubt that it is feasible. Better to leave the Fortune Theatre where it is, I feel. I was thinking that we build an exact replica of the Fortune, but one that can easily be disassembled / flat-packed like an Ikea / Meccano hybrid, so a stage that folds in on itself, an auditorium that can be compressed to the size of Cameron Mackintosh's wallet, things like that, and then assemble it onstage at the Dominion. Maybe if we do it between matinee and evening shows at An American in Paris we could get the cast to help out? My mate Dave knows someone with a removal lorry so it shouldn't be a problem. If it works we could take it on tour, I know shows like Once used to say let you buy a drink onstage, but how many people can honestly say that they made their West End debut by expelling a hangover piss next to a popcorn machine? |
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 26, 2017 19:12:02 GMT
Yes, a book called "The Original British Theatre Directory" from Richmond House Publishing has that data for the entire country. Used to be in a book published annually until 2009, but now online and subscription only. Don't know if the info is available anywhere else. Anyway, the Criterion has a proscenium opening of 7.62m, height 3.81m, depth of sightlines 6.63m. Theatre Royal Drury Lame: 12.95m, 7.92m, 24.69m. So roughly 4 times. So the Theatre Royal Drury Lane's stage width is less than double that of the Criterion? Assuming proscenium opening = stage width. That surprises me; it feels more than that. |
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Post by peggs on Apr 27, 2017 22:11:08 GMT
Theatremonkey is there anything you don't know about theatres, you're a veritable mine of informtion.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Apr 28, 2017 6:12:01 GMT
When on theatre site it states "Running time 2 hrs 32 min + 20 min interval" does this mean the total time, including interval is 2 hrs 32 min or you add the interval time and it's 2 hr 52 min?
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Post by mistressjojo on Apr 28, 2017 6:20:20 GMT
When on theatre site it states "Running time 2 hrs 32 min + 20 min interval" does this mean the total time, including interval is 2 hrs 32 min or you add the interval time and it's 2 hr 52 min? Thank you If it says ' +20 min interval' you need to add this into the total time, so it will be 2 h 52 m. Otherwise it usually will say 'including 20 min interval". |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 7:56:28 GMT
How did actors do musicals before microphones in BIG places like Drury Lane? When u go places tiny like Southwark they are mic'd so how the hell did they cope back then?
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