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Post by partytentdown on Mar 20, 2023 13:42:27 GMT
Anyone have a sense of how well it's selling?
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Post by luvvie23 on Mar 20, 2023 22:47:29 GMT
A STRANGE LOOP has no interval. Now I’m embarrassed x thank you for letting me know gently ❤️
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 21, 2023 9:31:18 GMT
Booked first preview; I don't know much about this one - but a show with no interval; music to my ears!!!!!
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Post by luvvie23 on Mar 21, 2023 11:15:20 GMT
Anyone have a sense of how well it's selling? Taking a look at a selection of random dates on the Barbican website - not good. Is it too early to say? That don’t seem to be doing any publicity. Which is odd. I don’t really know how these things work in terms of ticket sales.
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Post by ladidah on Mar 21, 2023 14:11:23 GMT
I think despite its success it is may be a relatively hard musical to sell over here. I had to read the synopsis to get some idea of it, and I still can't imagine it.
It's far easier to sell a film or tv tie-in that something original and unique.
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Post by n1david on Mar 21, 2023 15:11:52 GMT
I am seeing Sponsored Ads for it on Facebook which do focus on the number of awards it won in NYC, not specifically Tonys. Also describes it as a "one time" run in London which seems a bit odd given they can't possibly know it won't get a revival at the Union in 2032. It is a bit of a strange beast of a musical and I do agree with those that have said the Barbican is an odd place for it. I saw it in NYC and thought parts of it were thrilling but parts of it a bit messy. I strongly want to see it again in London but I think there will be deals, so I'm waiting for those rather than paying the high asking prices at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 17:16:37 GMT
Part messy and part thrilling seems to be Micharl R. Jackson's modus operandi as his newest NYC production (White Girl in Danger) is being described with those exact words.
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Post by luvvie23 on Mar 23, 2023 22:30:58 GMT
This has starting casting here now. So no American cast. 🎭
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Post by annette on Mar 24, 2023 18:24:11 GMT
This has starting casting here now. So no American cast. 🎭 That's a shame. No doubt we have some wonderful performers in the UK who can step into those mighty shoes, but seeing the original cast who had been with the show over the years of development and off-Broadway in NY was off-the-scale brilliant. I'd love to have seen them reprise their roles here, especially John-Andrew Morrison, L.Morgan Lee and Jaquel Spivey. Sadly I agree with some other people on this strand about the suitability of The Barbican for this show. I know producers have to take what they can get, but it would be much better suited in my opinion, to a more intimate space like The Dorfman or Donmar. Aside from the possible dramatic distancing problem, I hope they don't end up with poorly attended shows. I'm curious to see how much accommodation will be made in the script for a UK audience as there were certainly a few references in the show that I didn't get at all on my first visit. Personally I don't think ASL is a niche show. Edgy for sure and definitely not a Shaftesbury Avenue fodder, but it has so much to say and to think about afterwards. I was enormously moved and uplifted by it and on the surface have nothing in common with the big picture themes of the piece. If people are on the fence about seeing it, I'd suggest listening to the glorious OBC recording (perhaps giving 'Inwood Daddy' a miss until you see it in context!).
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Post by tal on Mar 25, 2023 15:38:58 GMT
This has starting casting here now. So no American cast. 🎭 That's a shame. No doubt we have some wonderful performers in the UK who can step into those mighty shoes, but seeing the original cast who had been with the show over the years of development and off-Broadway in NY was off-the-scale brilliant. I'd love to have seen them reprise their roles here, especially John-Andrew Morrison, L.Morgan Lee and Jaquel Spivey. Sadly I agree with some other people on this strand about the suitability of The Barbican for this show. I know producers have to take what they can get, but it would be much better suited in my opinion, to a more intimate space like The Dorfman or Donmar. Aside from the possible dramatic distancing problem, I hope they don't end up with poorly attended shows. I'm curious to see how much accommodation will be made in the script for a UK audience as there were certainly a few references in the show that I didn't get at all on my first visit. Personally I don't think ASL is a niche show. Edgy for sure and definitely not a Shaftesbury Avenue fodder, but it has so much to say and to think about afterwards. I was enormously moved and uplifted by it and on the surface have nothing in common with the big picture themes of the piece. If people are on the fence about seeing it, I'd suggest listening to the glorious OBC recording (perhaps giving 'Inwood Daddy' a miss until you see it in context!). I agree with the advice about skipping Inwood Daddy. While I found that scene incredibly powerful on stage, I have a really hard time listening to it in the cast recording. I wish the album had given that one a miss, or at least removed the most gruesome talking bits.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 2, 2023 6:56:00 GMT
I see the age guidance is 16+ on the Barbican website which I find astonishing given the content of that song. The idea of children of 16, or younger ones passing for 16 (assuming that the Barbican actually bothers to check this) hearing those lyrics is shocking.
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Post by intoanewlife on Apr 2, 2023 16:10:10 GMT
I see the age guidance is 16+ on the Barbican website which I find astonishing given the content of that song. The idea of children of 16, or younger ones passing for 16 (assuming that the Barbican actually bothers to check this) hearing those lyrics is shocking. I think the older patron is going to struggle with it more than younger visitors...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 2, 2023 16:17:50 GMT
I know kids are exposed to pornography via their phones these days but that doesn’t make it desirable or right. That song is most definitely pornographic in a particularly nasty way.
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Post by intoanewlife on Apr 2, 2023 16:26:43 GMT
I know kids are exposed to pornography via their phones these days but that doesn’t make it desirable or right. That song is most definitely pornographic in a particularly nasty way. I am no fan of smut, but it is one song taken out of the context of the show here. The fact they have put an age suggestion on it means they are least warning people in advance to check to see if the material is 'fit' for their consumption.
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Post by shownut on Apr 2, 2023 16:40:31 GMT
I know kids are exposed to pornography via their phones these days but that doesn’t make it desirable or right. That song is most definitely pornographic in a particularly nasty way. I am no fan of smut, but it is one song taken out of the context of the show here. The fact they have put an age suggestion on it means they are least warning people in advance to check to see if the material is 'fit' for their consumption. I agree with you, intoanewlife. While the content of the song is beyond disturbing (I skip this track. as once was enough to get the point), it does set up the arc of what follows in terms of where the character goes. I would also agree the same point could be made with less controversial material but, as the author has won every prize under the sun, including the Pulitzer for this musical, far-be-it-from me to suggest he should have done otherwise.
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Post by intoanewlife on Apr 2, 2023 17:29:34 GMT
I am no fan of smut, but it is one song taken out of the context of the show here. The fact they have put an age suggestion on it means they are least warning people in advance to check to see if the material is 'fit' for their consumption. I agree with you, intoanewlife. While the content of the song is beyond disturbing (I skip this track. as once was enough to get the point), it does set up the arc of what follows in terms of where the character goes. I would also agree the same point could be made with less controversial material but, as the author has won every prize under the sun, including the Pulitzer for this musical, far-be-it-from me to suggest he should have done otherwise. I mean, The Prince of Egypt is meant to be a 'children's' show (and film) and yet it's perfectly fine for them to witness the murder of every first born male baby in the village in that because you know God n all... People should be checking into what they are going to see first, so you can't blame the show itself and the age warnings are in place for a reason. I know nothing about it other than the general premise and don't usually look into shows before I see them as I tend to delve into them a little deeper afterwards if I enjoyed them. But if it's only one moment in the show and the catalyst in the story, then shocking or not I doubt it'll worry me too much.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 2, 2023 17:54:45 GMT
Comparing Prince of Egypt to that song is possibly one of the most bizarre things I’ve read on this forum, and that is certainly saying something. However each to their own.
And if anyone reading is curious about the song Inwood Daddy as a result of this discussion please know before you seek it out, it is shocking.
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Post by apubleed on Apr 2, 2023 18:18:06 GMT
You don't (or shouldn't) win a Pulitzer Prize for following the status quo. The show is genuinely challenging. Some of the negative reaction here reminds me of these lyrics from the song "Interesting" in Far From Heaven, the Musical.
[pretentious gay art dealer]"What is there to say? Your social set is highly interesting. The essence of provincialism. All barking at expressionism without a clue. Which begs the suggestion, there can't be any question why New York is New York and you are you"
Ok, I get people can have their tastes but in my opinion we need to be more open minded to new musicals from New York because otherwise we're going to be stuck with shows like Tammy Faye until an occasional brilliant British work such as Matilda or Standing at the Sky's Edge appears every now and then.
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Post by intoanewlife on Apr 2, 2023 18:28:04 GMT
Comparing Prince of Egypt to that song is possibly one of the most bizarre things I’ve read on this forum, and that is certainly saying something. However each to their own. And if anyone reading is curious about the song Inwood Daddy as a result of this discussion please know before you seek it out, it is shocking. How is a describing a sexual act (no matter how explicit) more offensive than murdering new born babies? I believe this description is more than enough warning to put anyone off who would even think of taking a child to see it. Hell-bent on breaking free of his own self-perception, Usher, a young, gay, Black writer who hates his day job, so writes a musical about a young, gay, Black writer who’s writing a musical about a young, gay, Black writer...a strange loop. Usher grapples with desires, identity and instincts he both loves and loathes, all brought to life on stage by a hilarious, straight-talking ensemble. Age guidance: 16+ (Contains explicit language, references to racism and scenes of an adult nature)
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 2, 2023 19:09:56 GMT
You don't (or shouldn't) win a Pulitzer Prize for following the status quo. The show is genuinely challenging. Some of the negative reaction here reminds me of these lyrics from the song "Interesting" in Far From Heaven, the Musical. [pretentious gay art dealer]"What is there to say? Your social set is highly interesting. The essence of provincialism. All barking at expressionism without a clue. Which begs the suggestion, there can't be any question why New York is New York and you are you" Ok, I get people can have their tastes but in my opinion we need to be more open minded to new musicals from New York because otherwise we're going to be stuck with shows like Tammy Faye until an occasional brilliant British work such as Matilda or Standing at the Sky's Edge appears every now and then. My point was not about the content, adult content is fine for an adult audience. In my opinion a 16 year old watching and listening to that song is problematic. I also have a very strong suspicion that the 16+ rule will not be applied because theatres are sh*t at doing that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2023 19:19:04 GMT
These posts are on the verge of becoming their own strange loop.
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Post by jacob on Apr 2, 2023 19:19:11 GMT
You don't (or shouldn't) win a Pulitzer Prize for following the status quo. The show is genuinely challenging. Some of the negative reaction here reminds me of these lyrics from the song "Interesting" in Far From Heaven, the Musical. [pretentious gay art dealer]"What is there to say? Your social set is highly interesting. The essence of provincialism. All barking at expressionism without a clue. Which begs the suggestion, there can't be any question why New York is New York and you are you" Ok, I get people can have their tastes but in my opinion we need to be more open minded to new musicals from New York because otherwise we're going to be stuck with shows like Tammy Faye until an occasional brilliant British work such as Matilda or Standing at the Sky's Edge appears every now and then. My point was not about the content, adult content is fine for an adult audience. In my opinion a 16 year old watching and listening to that song is problematic. I also have a very strong suspicion that the 16+ rule will not be applied because theatres are sh*t at doing that. 16, ah yes, the age of physical consent but still problematic to be listening to a song about sex
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 2, 2023 19:25:19 GMT
Anyone listening to that song or reading the lyrics will surely understand that it is not just about sex. Anyway I’m tapping out of this discussion because I’ve said my piece. People with the stomach for it will read the lyrics or watch the YouTube and decide for themselves.
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Post by intoanewlife on Apr 2, 2023 19:31:12 GMT
I've seen far worse on the average Scruff profile...
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Post by marob on Apr 2, 2023 19:38:32 GMT
I know nothing about this show, but just listened to the song in question out of curiosity. My reaction was ‘this isn’t that bad… oh… oh… ok maybe it is.’ Pretty much on a par with stuff like WAP. Will be interesting to see how people react to the race play element as I think we are in some respects much more touchy about race than they are in America.
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Post by intoanewlife on Apr 2, 2023 19:41:46 GMT
as I think we’re much more touchy about race here than they are in America. Gurl... Yes the song is explicit. But reading the lyrics there's a lot going on there and it actually has a pretty legitimate and very relevant point the character/show is trying to make. It is not throwaway smut for the sake of smut.
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Post by Peter on Apr 2, 2023 20:05:39 GMT
Things I need to google tonight after reading this thread: - Lyrics to ‘Inwood Daddy’ - Prince of Egypt + killing babies - WAP - what a scruff profile is
Wish me luck…
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Post by intoanewlife on Apr 2, 2023 20:07:34 GMT
Things I need to google tonight after reading this thread: - Lyrics to ‘Inwood Daddy’ - Prince of Egypt + killing babies - WAP - what a scruff profile is Wish me luck… Thanks you I just spat Coke all over my iMac....
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Post by cezbear on Apr 2, 2023 20:46:41 GMT
All inappropriate or not talk aside, is there a whisper of cast for this yet? It's not that far off.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Apr 3, 2023 9:25:26 GMT
Two consenting talking about sex is legal but what about the race issues in the song Inwood daddy - that's what startled me
For the record I love the cast recoding and I can't wait to see something challenging on stage
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