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Post by ellie1981 on Jul 12, 2018 15:49:26 GMT
Well then let’s hope France win in that case. I got my wish so now can have a peaceful weekend watching the Wimbledon finals.
The Nadal/Del Potro match last night was far more entertaining than any football could ever be.
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Post by crowblack on Jul 12, 2018 16:03:48 GMT
Don't rub it in - I went with the football but should have stuck with the tennis! And I forgot about Wimbledon when I booked theatre tix months ago ...hoping to be home in time for the men's finals.
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Post by dani on Jul 14, 2018 17:37:44 GMT
England weren't very good at the World Cup. Harry Kane may win the Golden Boot, but he hasn't played outstandingly. The midfield was poor, especially the one really significant talent Alli, who never looked fully fit. The success was due mainly to a favourable draw and other teams under-performing disastrously, e.g. Germany. The defeat by Belgium today, admittedly with some players who are not first choice (such as Rose, who can't defend for toffee), exposed many limitations, and it's fantasy to claim that this is the beginning of a new chapter in the history of the England football team, even if Gareth Southgate has been quietly impressive.
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Post by martello736 on Jul 15, 2018 8:15:50 GMT
I’d never watched a football match in its entirety before this World Cup, and now I’ve watched three. It’s very stressful isn’t it? Also the commentators just sit around berating the players and saying how tired and out of it they all look which seems unnecessarily cruel as even when at 80% they’re still very good. Imagine if every musical had Mark Shenton’s voice over the top talking about how Elphaba hit the high notes better on Tuesday.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 8:47:15 GMT
Imagine if every musical had Mark Shenton’s voice over the top talking about how Elphaba hit the high notes better on Tuesday. I never truly envisioned hell until that thought. (I mean Shenton would be bad but 'insert any highly opinionated shouty male here' works too)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 8:49:26 GMT
I. Bloody. Hate. Football.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 12:34:53 GMT
I. Bloody. Hate. Football. Me too!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 12:43:05 GMT
I've gotta say, I don't know how unpopular "I hate football" is going to be as an opinion on a theatre board.
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Post by duncan on Jul 15, 2018 17:42:02 GMT
Tennis is a pile of old wank, the most tedious "sport" ever invented, its so dull it makes golf look interesting. I've also never met anyone who plays or watches rugby who isn't a braying boorish twit that I'd gladly feed to the pigs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 20:13:36 GMT
Tennis is a pile of old wank, the most tedious "sport" ever invented Not cricket?
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 15, 2018 20:23:07 GMT
Tennis is a pile of old wank, the most tedious "sport" ever invented, its so dull it makes golf look interesting. I've also never met anyone who plays or watches rugby who isn't a braying boorish twit that I'd gladly feed to the pigs. I agree 95% of tennis is tedium but when it gets it right, like Nadal/Djokovic, it is sport at it's best
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 21:12:26 GMT
I also hate the ignorant England fans who thought it was appropriate to damage NHS ambulances and run into Ikea, a Swedish furniture shop, and destroy the place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 22:50:13 GMT
I also hate the ignorant England fans who thought it was appropriate to damage NHS ambulances and run into Ikea, a Swedish furniture shop, and destroy the place. Not all theatre fans are ignorant just because a small minority get drunk, sing, abuse other audience members and so on. It’s the minority of people in any group that are the problem.
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Post by ellie1981 on Jul 15, 2018 23:06:20 GMT
I also hate the ignorant England fans who thought it was appropriate to damage NHS ambulances and run into Ikea, a Swedish furniture shop, and destroy the place. Not all theatre fans are ignorant just because a small minority get drunk, sing, abuse other audience members and so on. It’s the minority of people in any group that are the problem. Though strangely I know of no other sport in this country has a minority of fans that turn to criminal acts as a result of their team’s performance in a tournament.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 1:19:57 GMT
Not all theatre fans are ignorant just because a small minority get drunk, sing, abuse other audience members and so on. It’s the minority of people in any group that are the problem. Though strangely I know of no other sport in this country has a minority of fans that turn to criminal acts as a result of their team’s performance in a tournament. Depends where you are and what attracts this minority. On the subcontinent it is cricket that attracts violence, for example.
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Post by Jan on Jul 16, 2018 7:02:35 GMT
Though strangely I know of no other sport in this country has a minority of fans that turn to criminal acts as a result of their team’s performance in a tournament. Depends where you are and what attracts this minority. On the subcontinent it is cricket that attracts violence, for example. Note also the recent violence at several horse race meetings.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 16, 2018 11:11:25 GMT
Though strangely I know of no other sport in this country has a minority of fans that turn to criminal acts as a result of their team’s performance in a tournament. Depends where you are and what attracts this minority. On the subcontinent it is cricket that attracts violence, for example. I believe it's ice hockey in North America.
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Post by Jon on Jul 16, 2018 11:22:32 GMT
I’m sure NFL and AFL fans probably get as drunk and lairy as football fans.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 16, 2018 12:26:10 GMT
I was on the phone to my BFF who lives in Paris yesterday as the World Cup final finished. The noise coming from the various apartments in his block was off the scale, then the woman opposite took her France football shirt off and danced around on her balcony with her boobs out.
It’s not just us.
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Post by ellie1981 on Jul 16, 2018 14:54:10 GMT
I’m sure NFL and AFL fans probably get as drunk and lairy as football fans Speaking about NFL in the UK, the answer is no. It's a wonderful family atmosphere. In the US, I am told that they have magistrates courts under the stadium for instant justice. Very busy first couple of weeks, not so much now. I only sum up English Football Fan behaviour by an experience on a Metropolitan line train to Wembley, where I watched a terrified 7 year old girl cling to her mother, and the mother sensibly pacifying her with "don't worry, they are only being noisy because they are excited to be going to the game." Now, she was right... BUT... would those "singing fans" have been half so magnanimous if someone was bothering THEIR children? I’ll never forget a time I was on my way to Fulham on the District Line to meet some friends. Chelsea had just beaten Tottenham earlier that day. Although we were nowhere in the vicinity of either area, still there were Chelsea fans on the tube harassing various members of the public as if they were potential Tottenham fans that apparently deserved to be berated. The fans in question looked at least 50 years old and some were even women. There really is just no need.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 15:09:12 GMT
While I also have zero time for football fans en masse (and am thankful to live in a rugby obsessed city for that reason) I did chuckle once when my ex, while visiting me in London manged to get on a train going to wrong way ...and ended up trapped in a carriage full of football fans on the way to Wembley.
Clearly my amusement at that moment was also a fairly 'unpopular opinion' when she finally made it home as well...
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Post by duncan on Jul 16, 2018 15:11:58 GMT
See all those people who like a march, as over the weekend with protests about Trump and then a couple of weeks ago about Brexit - What I never understand about these protests is why they think walking down a street somewhere holding a piss poor quality sign with a supposedly witty slogan will make any difference at all. Trump still came, we are still leaving the EU - nothing changed, you walked down a street and made no material difference in the slightest.
Think what those 200,000 or so people in London last week could actually do by working together in support of a campaign against racism and sexism. Think what could be achieved in terms of door knocking with a message, running an appropriate social media campaign, getting the electorate out to vote etc.
Actions speak louder than words and I always think they'll show up for a demonstration in the hope of getting on the telly or being a meme but if there is actual hard work to do in support of whatever the cause is then they'll disappear like snow off a dyke and leave it to someone else. 200,000 people actually working in a positive way on the remain campaign could have made the difference.
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Post by wiggymess on Jul 16, 2018 15:37:48 GMT
I’m sure NFL and AFL fans probably get as drunk and lairy as football fans Speaking about NFL in the UK, the answer is no. It's a wonderful family atmosphere. In the US, I am told that they have magistrates courts under the stadium for instant justice. Very busy first couple of weeks, not so much now. Yes, that was in Philadelphia. Eagles fans are just a horrible bunch.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 16, 2018 15:59:26 GMT
See all those people who like a march, as over the weekend with protests about Trump and then a couple of weeks ago about Brexit - What I never understand about these protests is why they think walking down a street somewhere holding a piss poor quality sign with a supposedly witty slogan will make any difference at all. Trump still came, we are still leaving the EU - nothing changed, you walked down a street and made no material difference in the slightest. Think what those 200,000 or so people in London last week could actually do by working together in support of a campaign against racism and sexism. Think what could be achieved in terms of door knocking with a message, running an appropriate social media campaign, getting the electorate out to vote etc. Actions speak louder than words and I always think they'll show up for a demonstration in the hope of getting on the telly or being a meme but if there is actual hard work to do in support of whatever the cause is then they'll disappear like snow off a dyke and leave it to someone else. 200,000 people actually working in a positive way on the remain campaign could have made the difference. Marches need to be repeat events to have an impact. The idea is to generate headlines and convince MPs of the strength of public opinion - partly by grabbing hold of the news agenda and making it difficult for politicians to talk about anything else. It needs to be *every week* to do that - one-off events will simply blow over. The Trump baby blimp was a stroke of genius as it made for good pictures and grabbed front pages, but it was a one-off. I am not sure how effective marches can be in the modern media age - it's too hard to dominate the news agenda in a pluralistic media age when everyone gets to tailor their feed to their taste, with the news cycle moving so fast, with very partisan press ownership dictating the agenda, and a frankly cowed BBC worried about upsetting the government and losing their funding. The problem is that the social media tactics that have been shown to work are, frankly, unethical.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 18:46:02 GMT
What I never understand about these protests is why they think walking down a street somewhere holding a piss poor quality sign with a supposedly witty slogan will make any difference at all. It sends a message that they care enough to give up their day to stand there with a placard. What I don't get is the people who think they're achieving the same by posting on social media. They spend twenty seconds typing and don't even have to get out of their chair to do it, and then they pat themselves on the back as if they've solved all the world's problems.
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