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Post by Backdrifter on Mar 5, 2019 8:27:43 GMT
Gaaah - Fleabag spoiler a few posts ago; I haven't watched it yet.
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Post by crowblack on Mar 5, 2019 8:52:34 GMT
Sorry! Moderator, can you add retrospective brackets? I can't alter it now. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 5, 2019 8:58:18 GMT
Done
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 9:07:11 GMT
The stepmother is a nasty character, much less relatable than Fleabag. Relatability is a subjective thing, evidently! Everyone in the series is horrible but things like that final smirk to camera as she {Spoiler - click to view}
sits alongside her just-miscarried sister - nope. But . . {The Best Things in Life Are Flea . . . }
. . she wasn't smirking about the miscarriage. She was smirking because both she and her sister commented about the priest being hot. |
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Post by crowblack on Mar 5, 2019 13:09:18 GMT
While sitting next to the sister who had just miscarried - her sister has just experienced something devastating but she's already moved on to thinking gleefully about who she's going to f- next. It undermined whatever power the miscarriage scene had - it made it feel like just another plot device. What's a grim thing to happen in a dinner party scene that hasn't been done yet? Miscarriage! With the added bonus of one of my Trademark Toilet Scenes where I can talk about poo and periods. If we're supposed to believe Fleabag behaves so awfully because she's devastated by her mother's death and friend's death, that sort of depth of feeling and horror didn't come through. |
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Post by MrsCondomine on Mar 5, 2019 13:18:38 GMT
The Greatest Showman is average-to-bad. I don't have the energy to hate it, it's just not worth it!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 13:24:31 GMT
While sitting next to the sister who had just miscarried - her sister has just experienced something devastating but she's already moved on to thinking gleefully about who she's going to f- next. It undermined whatever power the miscarriage scene had - it made it feel like just another plot device. What's a grim thing to happen in a dinner party scene that hasn't been done yet? Miscarriage! With the added bonus of one of my Trademark Toilet Scenes where I can talk about poo and periods. If we're supposed to believe Fleabag behaves so awfully because she's devastated by her mother's death and friend's death, that sort of depth of feeling and horror didn't come through. OK, I don't really agree with your summation of the episode and I think you were already pre-determined to dislike the show (and that character in particular) so whatever happened in the episode I think you'd find the negativity in it which is also OK (much as I was no doubt pre-determined to like the show). I know the show isn't to everyone's taste and some people do dislike it/her very much (although they no longer watch the show if so) so I think we'd go around in circles for ever and a day which no-one wants to read. Plus I'm hungry so I'll leave you to it. |
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Post by crowblack on Mar 5, 2019 13:41:12 GMT
already pre-determined to dislike the show No I wasn't. When the series kicked off I sat down to watch it with high expectations but it just p-eed me off. I love the cast, love Killing Eve, even went to London to see the related show at the Soho theatre recently. The Guardian's fixation with it also grates and tbh I doubt it would be doing three articles a day on it while not flagging up other excellent series if Ms Waller-Bridge was from Birmingham and a couple of dress sizes bigger. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 14:29:29 GMT
The Greatest Showman is average-to-bad. I don't have the energy to hate it, it's just not worth it! As someone who quite enjoys The Greatest Showman and listens often to the soundtrack, both original and reimagined, I 100% agree with your assessment that it is average-to-bad. |
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Post by sparky5000 on Mar 5, 2019 14:45:03 GMT
I wouldn’t be too upset if Cynthia Erivo never returned to the West End to perform again. Although judging from recent interviews, she probably feels the same! If there’s a more arrogant and egocentric MT performer around right now, I’d love to know who!
^ I mean, this may not even be an unpopular opinion, idk! lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 14:48:48 GMT
I wouldn’t be too upset if Cynthia Erivo never returned to the West End to perform again. Although judging from recent interviews, she probably feels the same! If there’s a more arrogant and egocentric MT performer around right now, I’d love to know who! ^ I mean, this may not even be an unpopular opinion, idk! lol I don't think Cynthia feels like she needs London's glitzy West End anymore anyway. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Mar 5, 2019 15:06:17 GMT
The Guardian's fixation with it also grates and tbh I doubt it would be doing three articles a day on it while not flagging up other excellent series if Ms Waller-Bridge was from Birmingham and a couple of dress sizes bigger. Ooh-er! I'm neutral on what the Guardian's take would be on a differently-geographied and sized PWB, but I like your comment. Of all the jibs I've seen, and I've seen quite a few, I particularly like the way yours is cut. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 5, 2019 16:54:08 GMT
The Greatest Showman is average-to-bad It's so gaudy and brash, you just go with it, I think. Or not, in my case. I was tutting under my breath through most of it 😤 |
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Post by peggs on Mar 5, 2019 17:52:58 GMT
It's so gaudy and brash, you just go with it, I think. Or not, in my case. I was tutting under my breath through most of it 😤 I never watched the end, got as far as the fire I think, did I miss anything? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 5, 2019 18:12:24 GMT
Or not, in my case. I was tutting under my breath through most of it 😤 I never watched the end, got as far as the fire I think, did I miss anything? Really, no. |
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Post by peggs on Mar 5, 2019 20:33:03 GMT
Ta, glad I saved the time then.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 21:32:27 GMT
Apart from the best song in the whole film, no, you missed nothing.
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Post by anita on Mar 6, 2019 14:55:48 GMT
I never liked "Friends" - totally overrated.
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Post by MrsCondomine on Mar 6, 2019 15:09:23 GMT
I never liked "Friends" - totally overrated. THANK YOU. I always found it just stupid and loud, when my friends were watching it at a sleepover (I was about 9 I think!). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 15:17:09 GMT
I never liked "Friends" - totally overrated. THANK YOU. I always found it just stupid and loud, when my friends were watching it at a sleepover (I was about 9 I think!). It has not aged well seemed to be the predominant view after it appeared on Netflix. I was never a huge fan, but episodes I have seen always had at least one big laugh, which I thought was unusual for a syndicated show and a credit to the writers. |
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Post by musicallady on Mar 6, 2019 16:20:30 GMT
Adverts - All the Sky ones especially the ones for Sky Bingo with Alan Carr voiceover (I think its him). Plus the yogurt adverts with The talentless Nicole whats her name in it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 16:21:55 GMT
Adverts - All the Sky ones especially the ones for Sky Bingo with Alan Carr voiceover (I think its him). Plus the yogurt adverts with The talentless Nicole whats her name in it. Postcode Lottery. Gala Bingo. Any of them where they get randomers off the street to try to sing. Arghh! |
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Post by Backdrifter on Mar 6, 2019 16:28:14 GMT
Adverts - All the Sky ones especially the ones for Sky Bingo with Alan Carr voiceover (I think its him). Plus the yogurt adverts with The talentless Nicole whats her name in it. Postcode Lottery. Gala Bingo. Any of them where they get randomers off the street to try to sing. Arghh! The Samsung one with a truly horrible version of Que Sera Sera. All those happy diverse people, their lives made perfect by Samsung. Bleeuuurrgggh  |
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Post by Backdrifter on Mar 6, 2019 16:48:15 GMT
THANK YOU. I always found it just stupid and loud, when my friends were watching it at a sleepover (I was about 9 I think!). It has not aged well seemed to be the predominant view after it appeared on Netflix. I was never a huge fan, but episodes I have seen always had at least one big laugh, which I thought was unusual for a syndicated show and a credit to the writers. At the time, I liked it until about season 5 then after that it was like a switch had been thrown from "Mainly good" to "Embarrassing crap". The cringe factor increased as they had the friends pair off in various permutations. The way that people from outside their closed circle were essentially hideous invaders to be seen off. And heaven help them if they were European. It was also after season 5 that Courteney Cox suddenly became this sort of rasping screeching sunken-eyed thing. Having said I enjoyed the first 5 seasons, catching the odd bit on the C5 repeats recently, I agree it's aged very badly, even those "good" ones. Someone on twitter recently did this entertaining thread highlighting bits showing that Phoebe was basically a horrible selfish nasty sh*t. I especially enjoyed this as I hated her character. Which, among a whole group of intensely annoying characters, is saying something. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 17:01:46 GMT
I never liked "Friends" - totally overrated. I liked it at first, but I lost interest as they tried to squeeze ever more story ideas out of a fixed set of characters. When you've milked the cow so hard it doesn't have any bones left it's time to stop. |
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