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Post by kathryn on Jul 17, 2020 12:12:05 GMT
They're trying to draw a distinction between the number who died because of the virus and the number who had it, but died of something else.
Which is kind of ridiculous - after all, we know there's a long tail of health problems following the initial few weeks. We can't yet be sure that surviving that initial crisis doesn't mean some people won't die because of one of those lingering complications caused by the virus.
Then there's the effect on health services that meant a lot of people have died who might otherwise have not, even if they didn't test positive for Covid-19.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 17, 2020 12:07:45 GMT
What is all this waffle? Why are stadium audiences suddenly OK? Total normality from November? I know he's a populist but that's taking the p. Given that most stadium events have pre-emptively cancelled up to the end of the year, I'm not sure it'll make any difference. I had a concert at the O2 in December moved to November 2021 - very understandably, as people were clamouring to be able to get their money back and they couldn't offer that until new dates were set. Plus they needed the certainty for financial and logistics planning, of course. And we still don't know what will happen in the autumn - with all the rules relaxed and the usual coughs and colds circulating self-isolation will make a comeback every time someone catches a cold, unless testing is much easier to access and results are a lot swifter.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 17, 2020 11:58:03 GMT
Yes let's not try and rewrite history, it was only a few months ago after all. A lot of venues were left in limbo financially with the government advising them to close but not ordering them. Many companies, particularly in London where it was known the situation was more serious at that point, ignored the governments dithering and closed down ahead of advice. Yes, theatres ended up closing voluntarily because it was clear that it would be irresponsible to stay open, and then discovered they couldn't claim on their insurance because they closed before they were officially ordered to.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 16, 2020 8:56:14 GMT
You have given all the benefits to leaving the EU. The UK now controls it borders, has greater say on it's economy and that does include the ability to be able to trade with other countries. Which Brexiteers (and this government) will hope to fill much of the gap in the economy with. We could even become a great Socialist state now which I am not sure we could whilst under membership of the EU. At the end of the day, the UK right wants make the decisions rather than the European right. So, there are no benefits, then. Not if you actually understand the practical realities of geopolitics. I mean, right there you go from saying we could become a Socialist state and then say the UK right wants to make all the decisions! Political theory is all very well, but political reality always wins out. The UK isn't going to become a Great Socialist State with the UK right in power. The UK isn't going to get improved trade deals outside of the EU because we've reduced our bargaining power and influence by leaving it - as well as proving ourselves to be unreliable negotiating partners who renege on our obligations and agreements to score short-term political points for a domestic audience. No-one in their right mind will be cutting us any slack or doing us any favours in trade deals. The sad thing is that this was all predictable - was actually predicted! - but a large proportion of the electorate bought into the fantasy of sunlit uplands and '£350m extra a week for the NHS'.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 16, 2020 8:42:43 GMT
They might be treating it as a loss-leader - the comedy nights must be much cheaper to produce, and this helps get the word out about them.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 15, 2020 14:17:46 GMT
Oh, this does sound tempting. But the travel is off-putting - 90 minutes of public transport each way.
Maybe if I can get a saturday matinee ticket....
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Post by kathryn on Jul 11, 2020 16:21:58 GMT
Always worth remembering that the honours system is nonsense...
There’s no objective criteria in play, and it’s certainly not ‘fair’. Lots of populism and political favouritism.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 11, 2020 8:35:32 GMT
Is coronavirus present in wee wee? I thought it was a respiratory disease! It can be detected in urine and feces - that’s why water treatment works can be tested to monitor the spread of the disease. I am not sure if anyone has established for sure whether the fragments of the virus that end up in waste can actually infect other people, though. There’s evidence that it is unlikely to be a high risk.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 11, 2020 8:30:16 GMT
Hover. I thought all women would do this in public loos. I'm amazed to find that any are prepared to sit down. Why? If I was flexible enough to lick my own arse then I'd certainly wash it before I did so, but other than that I don't understand what sitting on a toilet seat after someone else has used it is going to do to me. Do you also not sit down at home or are family bums somehow less dangerous than strangers' bums? Do you never have friends round and let them use the loo? Indeed, far more likely to get sick from people not washing their hands properly before handling food. Your skin is an excellent barrier against infection. Infection normally enters the body through openings in the skin - mouth, eyes, nose, most commonly for Coronaviruses. Hence the advice not to touch your face, wash your hands, and guidelines to avoid situations where people might breathe it in. As long as loo queues can be socially distanced and everything is cleaned regularly, and you wash your hands properly, Public loos are not that high risk. The problem is the inability to socially distance the queue in most theatres.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 11, 2020 8:18:55 GMT
Hover. I thought all women would do this in public loos. I'm amazed to find that any are prepared to sit down. I’ve never found them to be particularly warm...? Surely nobody’s there long enough to warm them up? (Or is everyone else hovering and I’m the only one sitting? #paranoid) They’re not. Hovering is very bad for you - leads to bladder infections.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 9, 2020 9:39:53 GMT
Yes the odd £10 discount here and there pales in comparison to the £3k refund I should be getting for my train season ticket, which hasn’t arrived yet.
I’d rather they lean on the travel operators to sort that out - a lot of people have struggled to get the refunds they are entitled to for holiday and business travel bookings.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 8, 2020 19:31:34 GMT
City of Angels, 13th March.
116 days ago.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 8, 2020 12:58:32 GMT
I had one woman who complained about ticket prices eventually admit that she didn’t live within 50 miles of a theatre. Well, then, it’s not the ticket price that’s the barrier, is it? You wouldn’t be able to go even if I paid for your ticket and your travel, because you can’t/don’t want to fit the travelling involved into your schedule. This would be less of an issue if top-notch shows with top-notch casts toured the regions, like they once did, but they don't. Even NT Live - the theatre equivalent of Skyping your relatives rather than visiting in person - is £24 at my local Picturehouse. And London's excellence is funded by everyone: "Department for Culture, Media and Sport and Arts Council funding to the arts is heavily skewed to people in London, with them benefiting to the tune of £69 per head compared with £4.58 in other English regions." (Guardian, 2015). Steps are supposedly being taken to redress this massive imbalance but it has not been quick enough, and we do not have a system like the one I've heard of (through this board) on the continent, where theatre tickets in major cities include subsidised travel costs for those outside that city. Yea, there are certainly problems with the lack of regional tours, and subsidised travel would help. But at some point we also have to admit that going to the theatre involves effort - simply sitting watching a show involves effort - and a lot of people don’t want to make that effort. And that’s fine! No-one has to go! It’s a hobby people should be able to enjoy, not a moral imperative. Unfortunately people rarely admit that they simply don’t want to make the effort and instead claim that the problem is with theatre - no matter how hard everyone tries to make theatre accessible and affordable and relevant, no matter how well it is reviewed. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water...
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Post by kathryn on Jul 8, 2020 11:22:30 GMT
Yeah, it’s the wilful ignorance that is annoying. Fair enough to not know because you’ve never been told .
When you have just told someone how they can do the thing that they claim they want to do (access cheap or even free tickets, subscribe to a theatre streaming service) and they just ignore you to continue complaining that they can’t do it.
I had one woman who complained about ticket prices eventually admit that she didn’t live within 50 miles of a theatre. Well, then, it’s not the ticket price that’s the barrier, is it? You wouldn’t be able to go even if I paid for your ticket and your travel, because you can’t/don’t want to fit the travelling involved into your schedule.
It’s like me complaining about being unfit but at the same time not actually wanting to put any time or effort into exercising!
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Post by kathryn on Jul 8, 2020 8:07:41 GMT
Has anyone else had an experience on Twitter a bit like this?
Random Tweeter in response to story about theatre sector needing government support: Theatre is too elitist, expensive and inaccessible, and that’s why the sector is struggling. It shouldn’t get money, the real problem is ticket prices. Me: There is a whole pandemic thing going on at the moment, y’know, the sector is usually profitable and half the population went to a show last year. Random Tweeter: We’ve loved watching streamed theatre from home over lockdown. Theatres should do more of that! They should set up some form of subscription service - I’d definitely pay for that! Me: Great! Here’s a link to an article about 5 theatre streaming services you can subscribe to. Enjoy! Random Tweeter: *Totally ignoring previous tweet* They just don’t want theatre to be accessible to everyday people!
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Post by kathryn on Jul 8, 2020 7:54:05 GMT
I haven’t seen anyone complaining about this discussion - robust opinions expressed, yes, but it has been perfectly civil.
It’s rather an interesting subject and nice to have something to talk about that’s unrelated to the dreaded virus!!
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Post by kathryn on Jul 7, 2020 23:35:26 GMT
intoanewlife of course no one has to like anything anyone makes. It just seems a little insulting to me to assume that because you don’t like elements of something that means it was f***ed up - a product of incompetence - rather than a series of deliberate creative choices. Particularly when it’s an element that featured consistently throughout the piece. Consistency is usually an indication of intent being applied, not a mistake being overlooked. It’s very unlikely that this very well-resourced production didn’t the capture the exact shots they needed to edit the film however they wanted. The film’s director who was a core member of the original multiple award-winning creative team, after all.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 7, 2020 13:37:29 GMT
]That is one of the first rules of editing and they did it constantly to the point I was actually shocked they were allowed to leave it that way. There should always be a bridging shot in the middle, it is disorientating for the viewer. There were a lot of moments throughout that I remembered from the show that I thought I would NEVER have cut that like that! But then maybe they just didn't have the shots to cut it properly. Have you considered the possibility that what you are calling 'bad editing' is in fact a stylistic choice, deliberately done because it 'broke the rules'? That 'breaking the rules' is part of the ethos of the production? I certainly haven't seen anyone say they were disoriented - in fact the vast majority of people have praised the filming and editing choices. Of course, the vast majority of people watching this wouldn't normally watch a filmed production, so they wouldn't even know what the 'rules' are - they've not internalised any filming conventions for this type of production, and don't even know they exist. Normally filmed productions seem staid and 'stagey' - this did not. It brilliantly conveyed the energy and emotion of the live show.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 6, 2020 20:33:22 GMT
Well, Matthew Anderson has achieved the seemingly impossible in uniting Theatre Twitter!
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Post by kathryn on Jul 6, 2020 12:59:21 GMT
Sounds like this: www.barnesfilmfestival.com/workshops2020/2020/6/24/masterclass-james-grahamNews about this show has been the slowest of trickles - just little mentions here and there when people involved have been talking about other stuff! It’s intriguing but frustrating - most of the time the interviewer doesn’t get past ‘wait, you’re writing a musical with Elton John?!?!’. For some reason in the dozens of interviews that Elton John did in the past year it barely came up at all.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 6, 2020 12:49:07 GMT
Sounds like this: www.barnesfilmfestival.com/workshops2020/2020/6/24/masterclass-james-grahamNews about this show has been the slowest of trickles - just little mentions here and there when people involved have been talking about other stuff! It’s intriguing but frustrating - most of the time the interviewer doesn’t get past ‘wait, you’re writing a musical with Elton John?!?!’.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 6, 2020 10:11:33 GMT
the the Elton John/James Graham musical doing a Zoom reading, etc. etc. etc. Erm, given that I’ve been rabidly following all the publicly-accessible news about Tammy Faye and I haven’t heard of an actual Zoom ‘reading’ of the full musical, please can you confirm for me if that was an industry-only event that the public wouldn’t be aware of? Or are you referring to James Graham talking about them using Zoom to work on some new songs for it? Because I wouldn’t call that a ‘reading’ so much as ‘collaborating remotely’.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 6, 2020 10:04:31 GMT
There have been plenty of online concerts and a few theatre productions if you have looked for them. But all of that takes resources and equipment which many performers won't have lying around at home and are not going to be able to afford given they don't know when they are going to have steady work again. Don't be so quick to judge. Again the answer is be creative - write a Zoom play for Dench etc. Its not quick to judge, its wondering why theatre has been so slow to react. Sitting back and waiting for government intervention instead of being creative has shown the complete dearth of leadership at the top of the theatre sector. Things need to change going forward. Did you watch Staged? Or Talking Heads? There’s been loads of work going on online. I haven’t watched all that much of it because to me an online experience just isn't the same - it’s fundamentally TV, rather than theatre. But certainly those innovations have been work for the people involved.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 6, 2020 9:35:10 GMT
Ah, thanks, so I’ve probably already watched it. Thought there might be a new one I’d missed!
Did find a newish podcast with Rupert Goold talking to James Graham when I went looking last night, but no mention of Tammy Faye in it.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 5, 2020 21:47:22 GMT
Devil is always in the detail, but it is a relief to see an actual substantial financial package. I may have just had a little cry. Have been really depressed this week about the prospects for theatre. There seems to be hope now.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 5, 2020 21:24:35 GMT
. My timeline is basically theatre, TV, a large number of ‘normal everyday folks’ and a bit of women’s rights. If I haven’t seen this stuff, it’s not through lack of engagement - I’m afraid it’s through lack of them gaining any significant traction. I don’t know how you’ve missed it, then, because I’ve certainly seen and participated in some of those campaigns. I literally posted a picture of myself at the theatre on Friday. Twitter is funny like that though. I swear the trends are lies and that everyone sees something slightly different - I frequently see people talk about things trending that are not showing as trends for me.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 5, 2020 19:28:28 GMT
What interview was that?
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Post by kathryn on Jul 5, 2020 19:23:13 GMT
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Post by kathryn on Jul 5, 2020 10:26:33 GMT
The vast majority of people who love Hamilton have done no historical research before or since watching it.
Everyone gets different things out of art, but it’s always a product of the time in which it was made. As human beings we re-tell stories from the past as a way of talking about the present.
Of course it feels different to watch now than it did in 2015. Our present is so vastly different.
In terms of following it, though - anyone who likes hip hop will not have trouble parsing the lyrics. It’s just a matter of tuning in to the frequency. Like listening to Sondheim lyrics - which are also not everyone’s cup of tea - or understanding Shakespeare.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 3, 2020 21:18:09 GMT
Loving it. But how much does Groff expel saliva?! I never realised from the cast recording that he actually plays George as mad - psychotic mad - he’s actually rather disturbing! The West End George was played more for laughs and less for menace.
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