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Post by danielwhit on Jan 2, 2018 22:35:15 GMT
I can also confirm there were a lot of bits cut - there was a lot of Diana Rigg commentary (with Sandra holding up her phone in all kinds of places) which had been lost, and there was also a "it's in the small box on the kitchen table" type line from Sandra asking Diana to (we later find out) bring the ring. Plus some footage of Anne/Dennis running around writing words everywhere and all kinds of other bits. I had a feeling that would be the case. It explains why Diana Rigg's part seemed so perfunctory. I found myself wondering why they'd bothered to get in such a big-name actress & then give her almost nothing to do. How much of the filming was done in front of an audience? I'm assuming it would have been the more "Dickens" scenes & not things like the greenscreen or running round Salford scenes. Hopefully they do get the TV series they are clamoring for (the fact I learnt about this from the Radio Times in an interview with them suggests it probably is firmly in the pipeline) - as it will allow them the time to get this format right. Do you remember what exactly the RT said about it? I don't recall reading that particuar interview. I'm torn between loving the idea of a TV series in theory & being slightly worried about how it may come off in practice. (And, selfishly, I like seeing them onstage & a TV series would put the stopper on that for some times.) www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2017-12-30/the-christmas-carol-goes-wrong-creators-want-a-proper-tv-series/There's the article I meant Approximately 30 minutes was VT and 25 minutes was recorded in front of the studio audience (then edited). All the stuff in Scrooge's office, the Cratchett's, and most of the street stuff was filmed infront of us. The graveyard was positioned where the audience seating stand stood. There were two large sections of VT, each lasting 10/15 minutes (you can probably figure these bits out relatively easily!). The model street wasn't shown to us, the graphics for the title hadn't been done, and we also lost a bit of the "real BBC" footage in the edit (there was no Trevor continuity announcement for example). And yes, it was Salford which they ran out of. Interesting, when they came back in and spoke to Bryony's receptionist, that was the wrong building entirely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 8:45:08 GMT
Just terrible. Old jokes used in their other shows. Most of the gags are stock jokes and not character based on the narrative. The success they had with The Play that goes Wrong was well deserved but they have become lazy writers living off one hit and one half decent play.
As I said elsewhere, totally bored with them now.
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Post by rumbledoll on Jan 3, 2018 12:59:10 GMT
@wrighty, I don't think it's fair.. they are doing the whole new thing at the moment which is their improvisation show (i know they've done it before bit only as one-off thing) where they cannot rely on anything but their quick wit, comic skills and trust in one another. Bank Robbery was also a move from the usual Goes Wrong shows. I agree though that on telly it comes out not as funny as in live theatre (for whatever reason) but the characters of Cornley Politech they keep seems not a lazy writing to me bit the continuing insider jokes which is a gem for long-time followers and what helps to keep the 'play withon a play' humour concept intact.
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Post by stuart on Jan 3, 2018 18:51:47 GMT
I think you’ve also got to remember that this was rumoured to be a last minute commission to replace the canned Ed Westwick drama. Hence why it was recorded so close to transmission. Perhaps they didn’t have a lot of time to create the set pieces we saw in Peter Pan.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 3, 2018 19:58:51 GMT
My housemate loved it - and was laughing throughout. I was less impressed. It raised a few smiles but not as much as I had expected. There were a few nice touches - but it wasn't as strong as Peter Pan. I suspect that was because it had not been developed from something that had already worked on stage.
As regards a replacement for the cancelled/postponed Christie - that isn't the case. That was a 2/3 parter - and I think it was either Little Women or The Miniaturist that was brought forward from a previously planned Spring 2018 slot as a late replacement.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 3, 2018 20:16:14 GMT
Thanks. I missed that last week. Approximately 30 minutes was VT and 25 minutes was recorded in front of the studio audience (then edited). All the stuff in Scrooge's office, the Cratchett's, and most of the street stuff was filmed infront of us. The graveyard was positioned where the audience seating stand stood. There were two large sections of VT, each lasting 10/15 minutes (you can probably figure these bits out relatively easily!). Thanks for the confirmation. That was pretty much what I was expecting. I think you’ve also got to remember that this was rumoured to be a last minute commission to replace the canned Ed Westwick drama. Hence why it was recorded so close to transmission. Perhaps they didn’t have a lot of time to create the set pieces we saw in Peter Pan. It couldn't have been that last minute because they were tweeting about a mystery new project back in August/September when they were still in New York which must have been referring to ACCGW because there was a picture of a script & obviously MMN doesn't have one. I agree though that on telly it comes out not as funny as in live theatre (for whatever reason) but the characters of Cornley Politech they keep seems not a lazy writing to me bit the continuing insider jokes which is a gem for long-time followers and what helps to keep the 'play withon a play' humour concept intact. Yes, for me it was finding out what was happening to the Cornley Poly characters that was what I was most excited & nervous about in ACCGW, as it was a 4 year wait. If they do do a series I really hope it's character-driven rather than just everything Going Wrong. It was interesting that, as I think someone's already mentioned somewhere up thread, the Cornley characters seen as themselves in the birthday party videos seem to be rather more "normal" and less exaggerated than their stage counterparts. I wonder if this is deliberate in preparation for a possible series?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 20:53:18 GMT
I have a crush on Chris Leask. There, I said it!
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