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Post by danb on Sept 20, 2023 9:14:37 GMT
She was on The One Show last night. Apparently Elton is a close pal and in conversation at a dinner party he offered to write this.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 20, 2023 10:22:40 GMT
Does the narrative suggest that Twiggy was the actual driving force behind her career or more truthfully (as is my understanding) that she was a recipient of a series of very lucky breaks and management by various svengalis? I genuinely fail to see what is interesting about this woman other than her early modelling career and that extraordinary look which lasted only 4 years which doth not a musical make in itself. The rest of it, a movie, a stage musical, a record, bit jobs here and there and years of modelling at the less than fabulous Freemans Catalogue and M&S… What is this woman good at? What am I missing? Yes, this is written as Twiggy's rebuttal to all that, and in particular her dislike of "svengali". Were you convinced by her rebuttal?
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Post by Being Alive on Sept 20, 2023 10:54:23 GMT
The first song Twiggy sings is “Someone You Loved” by Lewis Capaldi. When she’s done she says “It’s got nothing to do with the story, it just happened to be #1 when I got Dame’d and I quite like it”. And at that moment I was like “ooooook, here we go.” This might be the best thing anyone has ever posted on this board.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Sept 20, 2023 11:06:19 GMT
I think that mistakes happen that’s life - I understand lighting cues etc but lines / lyrics….
A paying audience albeit £30ish quid deserve more.
I feel for the leading lady but this show shouldn’t be staged if apparently according to Ben Elton they had four serious days of rehearsal.
One thing which stuck out from the One Show promo; Twiggy said that it was a play with music - twice, which doesn’t bode it well. It’s marketed as a musical so why not be proud of that?
Weird re Lewis Capaldi - I think that’s a bit jarring.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 20, 2023 11:31:26 GMT
What absolute nonsense. It was in rehearsals for weeks.
He probably meant 4 days of tech- well he would have agreed that time ….so …..
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Sept 20, 2023 11:43:28 GMT
And it’s like tech should be for TECH.
Yes. Steering well clear of this show.
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Post by mkb on Sept 20, 2023 12:14:44 GMT
Yes, this is written as Twiggy's rebuttal to all that, and in particular her dislike of "svengali". Were you convinced by her rebuttal? There is probably something in the idea that, in a man's world, she wasn't given sufficient credit for her achievements, but the veracity doesn't really matter. It's an enjoyable story and the music is fabulous. It was well received, and the standing ovation last night felt genuine rather than given out of a sense of pity.
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Post by mkb on Sept 20, 2023 12:21:14 GMT
What absolute nonsense. It was in rehearsals for weeks. He probably meant 4 days of tech- well he would have agreed that time ….so ….. To be fair, that's exactly what Elton said, but he made it sound like that's all there was to the process. I suspect there is something in the early poster's comments that there have been a lot of late changes and the cast and crew are struggling to keep up. I don't go along with the criticism that it was not ready for previews. I enjoyed it, most of the audience seemed to, and I have been at productions, well into their established runs, where actors regularly fluffed lines and sound/light cues were missed. It's part of what makes live theatre exciting.
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Post by Steve on Sept 21, 2023 18:14:21 GMT
Saw the third preview last night and LOVED this. It's a thoroughly entertaining above-average jukebox biographical musical, in my opinion. It's straightforwardly told, it's songs reflect all the situations they are sung for, it's funny, it's got a very likeable central character, the songs picked are extremely entertainingly staged and performed. It doesn't completely create a convincing thesis about lessons to be learned from Twiggy's life, but it comes close. The songs, while reflecting the situations they are sung in, do not in themselves move the story forward, bar a couple. Elena Skye is hugely successful in creating a credible, no nonsense, tell-it-like-it-is, no airs Twiggy, as well as reflecting a winning naivety in her early years. Hannah-Jane Fox runs Skye close as MVP of the production, as Twiggy's utterly distinctive mother. Spoilers follow. . . Ben Elton came out at the beginning with a marvellous bit of self-deprecating standup, which made me laugh more than I did at his character's uber-stridency in "We will Rock You." Long and short of it, he admitted he was changing the script lots, and tonight, we'd have a new ending (I'd love to know how it ended in the first two previews lol)) This gives weight to a board member's suggestion (above) that in the first preview, Elena Skye's performance may have been thrown off by frequent script changes. In last night's preview, by contrast, she called for only one line, and made immediate light of it ("I was doing so well until then") in such a swift and smooth way that she got a big laugh, like it was one of her character, Twiggy's own self-effacing confessional moments. Anyhow, Elton presents Twiggy's story (last night's version) mostly in order, with the one exception being an opening flashforward to Twiggy being mobbed by adoring fans in Twiggy masks. Skye's Twiggy performed Jefferson Airplane's "Somebody to Love," which served as her declaration that her life would be about looking for love, but also seemed to suggest that such love could easily run a dysfunctional course, as embodied by the adoring but threatening mob. This dysfunction is explored, in particular, in her relationship with Justin de Villeneuve, primo "svengali" in Twiggy's life (his brother coined the name, Twiggy), who started his relationship with her when she was only 15 and he was 25, and was her manager and lover. (Times were different then, Twiggy insists, admitting she lied about her relationship to her parents, so it's not their fault, and also admitting that with hindsight, it was a bit "creepy"). Matt Corner's De Villeneuve, however, comes across as an absolute gem of a character, all puffed-up narcissism and smokescreen lies, yes, but in a slightly coy, mostly shameless, I'm-only-doing-this-cos-life-would-be-boring-otherwise, beaming, ingratiating, unthreatening way. Corner, dressed to the nines, nails De Villeneuve's signature song, Dobie Gray's "The In Crowd," with panache. In the face of this Svengali, Twiggy is depicted as somewhat enigmatic, with the American Breed's "Bend Me Shape Me" depicting just how much she is willing to go along with anything if it'll get her what she wants. But that's the point, these Svengalis must ultimately dance to her tune, which is, naturally, Lesley Gore's "You Don't Own Me," which Skye's powerful rock pop vocal absolutely nails to end the first half. Corner's explosive De Villeneuve is core to the humour of the first half. It's funny how bright faced his swollen balloon of shamelessness is, and it's funny to see that balloon burst again and again. The second half is less funny, more romantic, more sad. Twiggy's first husband, Michael Witney, was a substance abuser, but when he wasn't abusing substances he really loved her. Darren Day embodies Witney with a soft faded glamour, a man who constantly seems to be running out of breath. The great positive love song of their union is The Hollies's "The Air that I Breathe," while the great negative song of their union is Harry Nilsson's "Without You," and both songs are beautiful, and both get reprises. Twiggy's ultimate answer, as depicted by Ben Elton, to the accusation that she has no talent is her Tony nominated, 800 show, run in the "My One and Only" Gershwin musical with Tommy Tune on Broadway. Images of her performing one of songs, "S'Wonderful" are broadcast on the back of the stage, to prove the real Twiggy's genuine prowess, while Skye's Twiggy takes over in the foreground. It's S'Wonderful lol. (You can see these images on Twiggy TV on YouTube). Skye probably outperforms Twiggy's singing, but, as if now, is marginally behind in the dancing. If these are the bare bones of the plot, Elton deepens the whole show exponentially in his depiction of Twiggy's mother, who is shown to have mental illness and actually had regular electro convulsive therapy. That Twiggy springs from this woman is her true origin story, and perhaps why Twiggy has always been so grounded. It is suggested that the bombing of Twigys parents' house in WW2 in 1940 may have triggered Twiggys Mum's illness, and tunes from this earlier era are summoned to convey all the complication of this amazing, stunted, vibrant life force of a woman. So she performs Vera Lynn's "White Cliffs of Dover" to signal the start of her troubles, and like her daughter, yearns for the "happy ending" of Gracie Fields's "Happy Ending." As Twiggy's Mum, Hannah-Fox is a revelation, sometimes subdued, sometimes manic, but always electric and captivating. And this battle of the Scaramouches, the originator of the role, Hannah-Jane Fox and the latest one, Elena Skye, for who is MVP of this show probably results in a tie, as both are so critical to everything. All in all, I can't pretend this hits all the marks of a great musical, but it is terrifically entertaining and uplifting. 4 stars from me. PS: This third preview ended like this: the whole ensemble, with Twiggy and her Mum central, sing and dance to Jackie Wilson's "Higher and Higher," suggesting that an exuberant love of life is core to everything Twiggy.
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Post by mkb on Sept 21, 2023 21:11:09 GMT
Iirc, the only difference there in the ending compared to Tuesday is with the mother being central to that. Previously it was Twiggy and the ensemble I think. But I may have misremembered.
(Had never come across "MVP" before, which I learn is "Most Valuable Player". Is that an American sporting term?)
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Post by meisner on Sept 21, 2023 23:24:56 GMT
Saw the third preview last night and LOVED this. It's a thoroughly entertaining above-average jukebox biographical musical, in my opinion. It's straightforwardly told, it's songs reflect all the situations they are sung for, it's funny, it's got a very likeable central character, the songs picked are extremely entertainingly staged and performed. It doesn't completely create a convincing thesis about lessons to be learned from Twiggy's life, but it comes close. The songs, while reflecting the situations they are sung in, do not in themselves move the story forward, bar a couple. Elena Skye is hugely successful in creating a credible, no nonsense, tell-it-like-it-is, no airs Twiggy, as well as reflecting a winning naivety in her early years. Hannah-Jane Fox runs Skye close as MVP of the production, as Twiggy's utterly distinctive mother. Spoilers follow. . . Ben Elton came out at the beginning with a marvellous bit of self-deprecating standup, which made me laugh more than I did at his character's uber-stridency in "We will Rock You." Long and short of it, he admitted he was changing the script lots, and tonight, we'd have a new ending (I'd love to know how it ended in the first two previews lol)) This gives weight to a board member's suggestion (above) that in the first preview, Elena Skye's performance may have been thrown off by frequent script changes. In last night's preview, by contrast, she called for only one line, and made immediate light of it ("I was doing so well until then") in such a swift and smooth way that she got a big laugh, like it was one of her character, Twiggy's own self-effacing confessional moments. Anyhow, Elton presents Twiggy's story (last night's version) mostly in order, with the one exception being an opening flashforward to Twiggy being mobbed by adoring fans in Twiggy masks. Skye's Twiggy performed Jefferson Airplane's "Somebody to Love," which served as her declaration that her life would be about looking for love, but also seemed to suggest that such love could easily run a dysfunctional course, as embodied by the adoring but threatening mob. This dysfunction is explored, in particular, in her relationship with Justin de Villeneuve, primo "svengali" in Twiggy's life (his brother coined the name, Twiggy), who started his relationship with her when she was only 15 and he was 25, and was her manager and lover. (Times were different then, Twiggy insists, admitting she lied about her relationship to her parents, so it's not their fault, and also admitting that with hindsight, it was a bit "creepy"). Matt Corner's De Villeneuve, however, comes across as an absolute gem of a character, all puffed-up narcissism and smokescreen lies, yes, but in a slightly coy, mostly shameless, I'm-only-doing-this-cos-life-would-be-boring-otherwise, beaming, ingratiating, unthreatening way. Corner, dressed to the nines, nails De Villeneuve's signature song, Dobie Gray's "The In Crowd," with panache. In the face of this Svengali, Twiggy is depicted as somewhat enigmatic, with the American Breed's "Bend Me Shape Me" depicting just how much she is willing to go along with anything if it'll get her what she wants. But that's the point, these Svengalis must ultimately dance to her tune, which is, naturally, Lesley Gore's "You Don't Own Me," which Skye's powerful rock pop vocal absolutely nails to end the first half. Corner's explosive De Villeneuve is core to the humour of the first half. It's funny how bright faced his swollen balloon of shamelessness is, and it's funny to see that balloon burst again and again. The second half is less funny, more romantic, more sad. Twiggy's first husband, Michael Witney, was a substance abuser, but when he wasn't abusing substances he really loved her. Darren Day embodies Witney with a soft faded glamour, a man who constantly seems to be running out of breath. The great positive love song of their union is The Hollies's "The Air that I Breathe," while the great negative song of their union is Harry Nilsson's "Without You," and both songs are beautiful, and both get reprises. Twiggy's ultimate answer, as depicted by Ben Elton, to the accusation that she has no talent is her Tony nominated, 800 show, run in the "My One and Only" Gershwin musical with Tommy Tune on Broadway. Images of her performing one of songs, "S'Wonderful" are broadcast on the back of the stage, to prove the real Twiggy's genuine prowess, while Skye's Twiggy takes over in the foreground. It's S'Wonderful lol. (You can see these images on Twiggy TV on YouTube). Skye probably outperforms Twiggy's singing, but, as if now, is marginally behind in the dancing. If these are the bare bones of the plot, Elton deepens the whole show exponentially in his depiction of Twiggy's mother, who is shown to have mental illness and actually had regular electro convulsive therapy. That Twiggy springs from this woman is her true origin story, and perhaps why Twiggy has always been so grounded. It is suggested that the bombing of Twigys parents' house in WW2 in 1940 may have triggered Twiggys Mum's illness, and tunes from this earlier era are summoned to convey all the complication of this amazing, stunted, vibrant life force of a woman. So she performs Vera Lynn's "White Cliffs of Dover" to signal the start of her troubles, and like her daughter, yearns for the "happy ending" of Gracie Fields's "Happy Ending." As Twiggy's Mum, Hannah-Fox is a revelation, sometimes subdued, sometimes manic, but always electric and captivating. And this battle of the Scaramouches, the originator of the role, Hannah-Jane Fox and the latest one, Elena Skye, for who is MVP of this show probably results in a tie, as both are so critical to everything. All in all, I can't pretend this hits all the marks of a great musical, but it is terrifically entertaining and uplifting. 4 stars from me. PS: This third preview ended like this: the whole ensemble, with Twiggy and her Mum central, sing and dance to Jackie Wilson's "Higher and Higher," suggesting that an exuberant love of life is core to everything Twiggy. Thankyou Steve for this detailed and great review. I have just returned home from seeing the 4th preview and i loved it too! So much so i have booked another ticket for 2 weeks time to see how it develops. Yes, its not perfect but i was never bored and found myself really immersed in the Twiggy story. Quite an interesting life to be honest! Since coming home i've googled alot and found some more fascinating things about the woman. Agree with all that you wrote but imo the only character that you left out, who was a favourite of mine in the show, was the dad, Norman Hornby. I thought it was a lovely nuanced performance and loved the relationship between him and his wife. As a father i was really moved by a scene towards the end of Act 2 that Steven Serlin, the actor who portrays Norman, played out. He and Hannah Jane Fox play some great cameo roles in the show and my particular favourite was Melvyn Bragg! very funny. Think this show could do very well. Nice to see some different tunes from the 60's and 70's and not the usual ones that are more commonly used.
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Post by seeseveryshow on Sept 22, 2023 23:34:12 GMT
Made my way through the downpour from London Bridge station last night to see this new Twiggy musical. The cast knocked themselves out and the leads (Twiggy and her parents especially) impressed.
Act 2 dragged on and on. As depicted in this piece, her marriage to the on again off again alcoholic took too much time (but the guy did sing well). When I think of Twiggy, I recall her trim hairdo and the way her eyes were made up. We saw her with the short hair, but they didn’t bother to make up her Twiggy eyes. At least not from where I was seated.
Had a terrible seat G-3, and was surprised how dirty the venue seemed: foyer/lounge, loo, and bench seating.
I saw her do MY ONE AND ONLY with Tommy Tune in NY. She was charming, had charisma, and could hold her own singing and dancing with Tune. But her fame is based on her look and her fashions, and it is hard to create a bio juke box musical about someone whose fame (as I remember it) did not derive from performance.
Having said that, I enjoyed the show (choreography and videos etc) and admired how they fit so many gifted actors on that stage. The show may be planned for transfer to a larger venue. That’s the impression I had.
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Post by Steve on Sept 23, 2023 17:54:00 GMT
Agree with all that you wrote but imo the only character that you left out, who was a favourite of mine in the show, was the dad, Norman Hornby. I thought it was a lovely nuanced performance and loved the relationship between him and his wife. As a father i was really moved by a scene towards the end of Act 2 that Steven Serlin Ha ha, I would have mentioned how much I liked Serlin too, had I not been in a theatre waiting for another show to start, forcing me to focus only on what I thought was the absolute best things in the show. Not only did I like Serlin, but also Aoiffe Dunne, who brought so much humanity and emotion into her small parts. Some spoilers follow. . . I also would have said that the choice of Larry Williams's "Bony Maronie" to reflect the early thin-shaming of Twiggy, particularly by the male ensemble, was perfect. The ick factor of Twiggy's feelings for De Villeneuve was nicely expressed by Dusty Springfield's "Spooky," I thought, and her trapped feelings of her marriage with Witney made for a fantastic "Stuck in the Middle with You," by Stealers Wheel! If any of my shows get cancelled, I might consider going to this again instead, so I can see the frozen final show. It's just great fun.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 26, 2023 11:44:14 GMT
The Wigs in those new productions shots are atrocious!! Nice to see the Chocolate Factory back in business as usual 🤣
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Post by Someone in a tree on Sept 26, 2023 12:16:28 GMT
The Wigs in those new productions shots are atrocious!! Nice to see the Chocolate Factory back in business as usual 🤣 Darren Day's looks particularly bad but isnt that him allover?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 26, 2023 12:39:27 GMT
They haven’t even stuck the lace at the front to her head!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 26, 2023 13:33:46 GMT
They give me very triggering flashbacks of the wigs in They’re Playing Our Song at the chocolate factory- those were hilarious too.
Also I’ve not seen it, so maybe it’s unfair to say- but she gives me absolute zero Twiggy vibes. She looks absolutely nothing like her.
Did Ben Elton not know he could cast outside his WWRY pool?
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Oct 12, 2023 21:31:37 GMT
At least Paradise Found tried to do something original.
This was a lazy, by the numbers jukebox musical, that really isn't very good.
It started off like a GCSE Drama exam performance piece, with terrible choreography and everyone wearing Twiggy masks. It really didn't get any better.
Why is teenage Twiggy narrating a story in the current time period and singing Lewis Capaldi songs? The tone is all over the place. Mum's in the asylum getting ECT treatment and Dad and the kids are singing 'Right Said Fred' but about a baby and not a piece of furniture.
In comes Larry Grayson, except it's not him, its the guy who becomes her BF and Manager. People believed this man was straight??
Also, the current layout of long continuous rows with no centre aisle is awful. I was middle of the row and have never been so squashed between 2 people in a tiny little space to sit in. Our shoulders were overlapping because it was so cramped., If you're mid row, get in early and claim your space.
All those folks who have spent years crafting their talents writing new musicals and this is what gets produced? I left at the interval.
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Post by meisner on Oct 12, 2023 22:57:48 GMT
At least Paradise Found tried to do something original. This was a lazy, by the numbers jukebox musical, that really isn't very good. It started off like a GCSE Drama exam performance piece, with terrible choreography and everyone wearing Twiggy masks. It really didn't get any better. Why is teenage Twiggy narrating a story in the current time period and singing Lewis Capaldi songs? The tone is all over the place. Mum's in the asylum getting ECT treatment and Dad and the kids are singing 'Right Said Fred' but about a baby and not a piece of furniture. In comes Larry Grayson, except it's not him, its the guy who becomes her BF and Manager. People believed this man was straight?? Also, the current layout of long continuous rows with no centre aisle is awful. I was middle of the row and have never been so squashed between 2 people in a tiny little space to sit in. Our shoulders were overlapping because it was so cramped., If you're mid row, get in early and claim your space. All those folks who have spent years crafting their talents writing new musicals and this is what gets produced? I left at the interval. But besides that, did you like it?!! 😆😆
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Post by ladidah on Oct 13, 2023 9:39:15 GMT
How do shows like this get made!?
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Post by drfootlights on Nov 1, 2023 0:24:16 GMT
Saw this tonight. What a turkey - I’m sorry - but how anyone can take this seriously is beyond me.
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