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Post by sfsusan on Oct 21, 2022 18:08:21 GMT
Isn't there a reality show on Channel 4 currently about this? Maybe the winner will actually become PM.
(I had a London taxi driver tell me yesterday he thinks Boris should take office again... after all, he apologized for his mistake and everybody deserves a second chance.)
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Post by longinthetooth on Oct 21, 2022 21:27:34 GMT
In the pharmacy for our Covid jabs yesterday, and an old boy in the queue was holding forth about the current political situation, and saying we should bring back Boris.
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Post by lynette on Oct 21, 2022 21:28:51 GMT
I’m not busy at the moment….
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Post by intoanewlife on Oct 21, 2022 21:37:07 GMT
I’m not busy at the moment…. You're hired!!!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 21, 2022 21:54:43 GMT
Sunak has over 100 backers now
This could all be over by Monday lunchtime
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Oct 21, 2022 21:58:54 GMT
Wait. This is the PM queue? Apologies. I thought it was for Tammy Faye Returns. Apologies. Can we not just let James Graham have a bash at actually being Prime Minister?
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Post by Jon on Oct 21, 2022 22:45:07 GMT
Wait. This is the PM queue? Apologies. I thought it was for Tammy Faye Returns. Apologies. Can we not just let James Graham have a bash at actually being Prime Minister? James probably is a little busy with Tammy Faye and TBH that's less stressful. If Sunak gets it, I do wonder if he might keep the current Cabinet in place rather than appointing new people? I suspect he might just keep things intact for a few months.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 21, 2022 23:50:09 GMT
He will get shot of some of the more ludicrous appointments.
Cleverly is not of the stature to be Foreign Secretary though less dangerous than his predecessor in that role.
Coffey isn't up to any government role
The Whips Office clearly needs a shake up
Shapps needs ditching again. That man is just putty in the hands of his officials. No backbone or principles.
There are too many in Cabinet who should never have risen above PPS level.
But the same is true of the opposition benches
We really have very little brilliance in our political parties these days.
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Post by Jon on Oct 22, 2022 0:15:06 GMT
The next election is going to see a lot of fresh faces as a lot of the long timers like Harriet Harman, Ben Bradshaw, Margaret Beckett and Margaret Hodge are standing down plus we'll probably see the likes of Raab and IDS potentially lose their seat.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 22, 2022 12:34:42 GMT
We really have very little brilliance in our political parties these days. And this is the key problem. I know Gordon Brown was not a popular Prime Minister, but I am put in mind of the BBC documentary about him. When the 2008 financial crash threatened to take the system down, Obama was able to confidently say ‘It’s ok, Gordon’s worked out a plan. He knows what to do about this. We follow his plan.’ And the major economies did indeed follow his plan. They could trust that the plan was good. And although the crisis was of course bad it was not so bad as it could have been. Total disaster was averted. Can you imagine that with any of the current lot? Not just the ability to come up with a plan to deal with a crisis in a way that actually mitigates its effects and doesn’t make it worse, but other world leaders having the trust and confidence to go ‘yup, we’ll do what you want’?
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 22, 2022 16:09:31 GMT
The queues we saw outside Northern Rock were in September 2007.
The images we saw of former Lehman Brothers employees leaving with their belongings in a box were in September 2008.
Barack Obama didn't become US President until January 2009.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 22, 2022 16:16:17 GMT
Uh huh, and everyone responded immediately the crisis didn’t drag on for months and months….
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Post by kathryn on Oct 22, 2022 16:17:08 GMT
Uh huh, and everyone responded immediately the crisis didn’t drag on for months and months…. Anyway, the point is that this lot are the ones *creating* the crises!
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Post by londonpostie on Oct 22, 2022 18:03:23 GMT
Nope, not going to happen for Johnson. Too soon, MPs not having it. At this rate he won't even stand.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 22, 2022 18:16:34 GMT
The queues we saw outside Northern Rock were in September 2007. The images we saw of former Lehman Brothers employees leaving with their belongings in a box were in September 2008. Barack Obama didn't become US President until January 2009. President or president elect, Obama can still give Gordon Brown the assist for saving capitalism
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Post by olliebean on Oct 22, 2022 23:07:39 GMT
The Truss energy package was the single biggest welfare programme in the history of the country and Tory MPs boasted it was 2-3 times more generous than any other country had implemented (it was). It was open-ended and had no maximum cost. 2-3 times more expensive than any other country had implemented, which isn't necessarily the same thing. Ask the French, whose energy price increases are capped at 4% this year and 15% next year, whether they'd sooner have had the "generous" increase we got at the start of this month.
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Post by Jon on Oct 23, 2022 20:21:30 GMT
Boris has pulled out. First time for everything I suppose.
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Post by Rory on Oct 23, 2022 20:31:01 GMT
Boris has pulled out. First time for everything I suppose. Thank God!
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Post by d'James on Oct 23, 2022 20:37:41 GMT
Boris has pulled out. First time for everything I suppose. Best news all week!
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Post by karloscar on Oct 23, 2022 21:00:39 GMT
I wonder how much they paid him not to run. He had no interest in the job, but spotted an opportunity to wangle some cash out of the Tory party. Laughing all the way back to the Carribbean.
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Post by Jon on Oct 23, 2022 21:07:55 GMT
I wonder how much they paid him not to run. He had no interest in the job, but spotted an opportunity to wangle some cash out of the Tory party. Laughing all the way back to the Carribbean. I'm still expecting Boris to appear on IAC.
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Post by olliebean on Oct 23, 2022 21:13:18 GMT
He still claims he got 102 nominations.
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Post by Jon on Oct 23, 2022 23:22:06 GMT
If Sunak is a shoo in, I'm guessing he'll be able to form his Government by Tuesday or Wednesday?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 5:42:25 GMT
TIRED: Ready for Rishi
WIRED: Ready Or Not Here I Come
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 24, 2022 6:04:58 GMT
He still claims he got 102 nominations.
102 is Trumpian amount.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 24, 2022 7:46:54 GMT
I wonder how much they paid him not to run. He had no interest in the job, but spotted an opportunity to wangle some cash out of the Tory party. Laughing all the way back to the Carribbean. I'm still expecting Boris to appear on IAC. Amazing he got that far. Party is a mess
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Post by og on Oct 24, 2022 8:32:45 GMT
He still claims he got 102 nominations.
102 is Trumpian amount Guardian reporting only 60 had publicly declared support which really does make the '102' seem positively Trumpian. The sense of relief I felt this morning reading he's backed out though, was immense. Let's hope Trump is taking notes (or suitably serving by the time his 'comeback' opportunity arises) I may come to regret saying this. I don't align with (m)any of their values but Rishi (for all his coaching and marketing teams efforts) seems to have his wits about him and a degree of respectable intelligence, so if he does land the gig today, this may not be the end of the world situation we were faced with this time last week.
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Post by karloscar on Oct 24, 2022 11:33:24 GMT
It'll be interesting to see who gets appointed to prominent cabinet positions by the new leader. Truss and Johnson both surrounded themselves with fawning incompetents to try to make themselves look good. I'm not saying the party is brimming with talent, but there must be better options than Mogg, Dorries, Braverman, Patel,Coffey and Cleverly.
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Post by Jon on Oct 24, 2022 13:12:21 GMT
It'll be interesting to see who gets appointed to prominent cabinet positions by the new leader. Truss and Johnson both surrounded themselves with fawning incompetents to try to make themselves look good. I'm not saying the party is brimming with talent, but there must be better options than Mogg, Dorries, Braverman, Patel,Coffey and Cleverly. I imagine Hunt and Shapps will stay put, Mordaunt I think will get a good Cabinet job
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 24, 2022 13:16:38 GMT
It'll be interesting to see who gets appointed to prominent cabinet positions by the new leader. Truss and Johnson both surrounded themselves with fawning incompetents to try to make themselves look good. I'm not saying the party is brimming with talent, but there must be better options than Mogg, Dorries, Braverman, Patel,Coffey and Cleverly. I imagine Hunt and Shapps will stay put, Mordaunt I think will get a good Cabinet job So we've got Sunak, Hunt and Mordaunt who are competent then. I'd throw in Theresa May also Who is the fifth? Must be one more competent person in the parliamentary party
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