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Post by carmella1 on Feb 3, 2020 22:36:54 GMT
but like, we've all seen the bootleg right? There is a whole world out there that have not seen it. Though that certainly seems steep for a show filmed on the stage.
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Post by tr252 on Feb 4, 2020 7:01:41 GMT
Why have they announced it so far in advance?
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Post by Dr Tom on Feb 4, 2020 8:56:38 GMT
First time seeing the year 3 cast yesterday (from one of the bargain price £20 Grand Circle slips - although the usher looked at me like I was mad when I tried to enter through the Dress Circle - which was the route I was directed to last time).
A lot of shows lose a bit of magic with a cast change and I think Hamilton here was one of them.
The cast board was wrong (it claimed Aaron Lee Lambert was on as King George, but it was Gavin Spokes), so I'll have to go with who I think was on.
Nuno Quiemado was on alternate Alexander Hamilton. Serviceable but lacks presence. Better than Stephenson Adrern-Sodje, who I saw last time.
Angelica was played by Lydia Fraser. She was fine.
Highlights of the new cast were Gavin Spokes as King George, who has an incredibly expressive face, even visible from the slips. Trevor Dion Nicholas as Washington, very powerful voice. And I did take to Carl Spencer, who played a very cute Philip Hamilton. Emile Ruddock, who I saw last time as cover Hercules Mulligan/James Madison looked much more comfortable too now he's playing the role full time.
I have one more cheap ticket booked, after which I'll probably give this a break until the year 4 cast.
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Post by sleepflower on Feb 4, 2020 12:15:28 GMT
Is there a reason why it's so long until the film version is out?! Considering it was filmed a couple of years ago...I've seen it on stage but I'm all for anything that encourages accessibility to theatre.
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Post by sf on Feb 4, 2020 12:38:00 GMT
Is there a reason why it's so long until the film version is out?! Considering it was filmed a couple of years ago...I've seen it on stage but I'm all for anything that encourages accessibility to theatre.
I assume they've calculated the sort of prices they're charging for the Broadway production are sustainable for another year or so, and it doesn't make commercial sense to put a film of the original cast into cinemas when they're still getting $199 for rear mezzanine seats and up to $449 in the orchestra.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 4, 2020 17:37:34 GMT
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Post by poster J on Feb 5, 2020 0:22:32 GMT
Oh boy! The caption and comments here. Whew. Seems to me she only has a cause for complaint if she wasn't invited back. If she said no then that's her choice (and it may well have been her choice to leave as well). Many people will only care that it is the original, individual Tony winning principals on stage, regardless of the rights and wrongs of that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 7:02:17 GMT
Oh boy! The caption and comments here. Whew. I did laugh at the comment: They should rename it to "Hamilton filmed on stage featuring the Original Broadway Cast! (Except Betsy Stuxness as "ensemble member")"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 7:56:40 GMT
Normally I would say 'well that's life' but LMM is mr nice guy, mr inclusive, we're all one big happy family etc so I think it does show him in a bit more of a real light. Not saying that's good or bad, like most things in life there are grey areas
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Post by danb on Feb 5, 2020 9:26:36 GMT
There’s a bigger/smaller/different story here that isn’t being shared by her. Either Lin is too gracious to highlight it or it might be worth hearing. Either way all I can smell is sour grapes from the ensemble member.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 11:27:02 GMT
From what I gather, as they filmed it almost a year after opening, she had already left the production. I believe another ensemble member had too, as had Jonathan Groff (but he came back for the filming).
So yes, sour grapes from her that she missed out. But I assume she chose to leave when she did.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 11:44:58 GMT
On another note, how does the language in Hamilton fit in with Disney's family-friendly image? The cast recording carries the 'Explicit Content' badge, so what certificate would the film version have? Disney is not the first studio I would have put Hamilton with, but they were obviously keen to have it if they paid $75m for it.
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Post by Dr Tom on Feb 5, 2020 12:02:55 GMT
On another note, how does the language in Hamilton fit in with Disney's family-friendly image? Is Disney that family friendly? Disney owns a lot of companies and franchises nowadays, so things like Deadpool are now Disney movies.
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Post by Sam on Feb 5, 2020 14:07:28 GMT
Disney has a bunch of brands for releasing various types of content under. Even more so now that the Fox acquisition has completed. Touchstone was a Disney brand, so technically Con-Air is a Disney film, and Nicolas Cage is definitely a Disney Princess.
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Post by danb on Feb 5, 2020 14:22:28 GMT
...and ‘Hollywood Pictures’, Marvel, Vice and Maker. All identities started with a specific purpose, but film making companies owned by Disney (although I think Hollywood is just Hollywood Records now).
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 5, 2020 14:32:34 GMT
From what I gather, as they filmed it almost a year after opening, she had already left the production. I believe another ensemble member had too, as had Jonathan Groff (but he came back for the filming). So yes, sour grapes from her that she missed out. But I assume she chose to leave when she did. She also has apparently never worked on Broadway again since leaving which tells me there is a bigger story here...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 15:25:51 GMT
Disney has a bunch of brands for releasing various types of content under. Even more so now that the Fox acquisition has completed. Touchstone was a Disney brand, so technically Con-Air is a Disney film, and Nicolas Cage is definitely a Disney Princess. Lol. That's true they have lots of different brands to release it under. It probably says a lot about me, but when I hear 'Disney' and 'musical', I just think of "High School Musical", "Mary Poppins" and "Beauty and the Beast". And Disneyland. 😂
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Post by jakobo on Feb 5, 2020 16:04:31 GMT
Plenty of premium seats in royal circle available for 57 quid for tonight's performance if anyone is interested.
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Post by Sam on Feb 5, 2020 16:10:11 GMT
Disney has a bunch of brands for releasing various types of content under. Even more so now that the Fox acquisition has completed. Touchstone was a Disney brand, so technically Con-Air is a Disney film, and Nicolas Cage is definitely a Disney Princess. Lol. That's true they have lots of different brands to release it under. It probably says a lot about me, but when I hear 'Disney' and 'musical', I just think of "High School Musical", "Mary Poppins" and "Beauty and the Beast". And Disneyland. 😂 That's the whole point of the different brands. So that we don't associate those films with the wholesome Disney. I don't get why we still have separation between Disney Animation and Pixar, from a branding perspective, but Disney, Marvel, 20th Century Studios etc are all distinctly branded for their respective target markets.
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Post by theatrefan77 on Feb 5, 2020 16:58:56 GMT
Lots of seats reduced to £37.50 in Stalls and Dress Circle for tomorrow matinee
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 17:36:25 GMT
Oh boy! The caption and comments here. Whew. I did laugh at the comment: They should rename it to "Hamilton filmed on stage featuring the Original Broadway Cast! (Except Betsy Stuxness as "ensemble member")"It's also missing Emmy Raver-Lampman.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 17:38:44 GMT
There’s a bigger/smaller/different story here that isn’t being shared by her. Either Lin is too gracious to highlight it or it might be worth hearing. Either way all I can smell is sour grapes from the ensemble member. It's more like bad wording on behalf of the PR and marketing, and no, 90% of the potential audience for this will not mind. Lin just isn't clarifying the inaccuracy. Javier Muñoz, meanwhile, is.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 18:04:19 GMT
And sour grapes or not, it's worth reading the comments from other Hamilton cast members (some OBC, some not) in that post.
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Post by danb on Feb 5, 2020 18:33:44 GMT
She’d either left by choice, left not by choice, missed those days shows or was asked not to take part. Either way theres a story we’re not being told. The lady in question hasn’t said why she wasn’t still in the cast at the time of recording; she’s just happy to talk down the show on twitter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 18:51:07 GMT
She left the show in March 2016, so before the Tony Awards. I've no idea if it was by choice or not.
But I notice she's not speaking out on behalf of the other ensemble member who had also left before filming.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 19:03:41 GMT
www.betsystruxness.com/hamilton"Hamilton being my 6th Broadway show in as many years, burning the candle at both ends was catching up to me. My body hurt. I found the show schedule frustrating and limiting. Performing 8 shows a week was losing its luster. I needed a break. About 6 months into the Broadway run, I was fairly angry most of the time and too tired to be almost anything but miserable, which were major indicators to me that I needed to move on, so I turned in my notice and left the show, ultimately at the apex of its popularity. To this day, I have never regretted that decision even though it meant not performing with the cast at the Tony Awards. Hamilton ushered me into full adulthood and with adulthood come priority shifts that one never dreams of as a child, when dreaming of taking centerstage on Broadway. I had finally accepted wanting both something more and something gentler at the same time. It was completely the correct decision."
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 5, 2020 19:08:44 GMT
www.betsystruxness.com/hamilton"Hamilton being my 6th Broadway show in as many years, burning the candle at both ends was catching up to me. My body hurt. I found the show schedule frustrating and limiting. Performing 8 shows a week was losing its luster. I needed a break. About 6 months into the Broadway run, I was fairly angry most of the time and too tired to be almost anything but miserable, which were major indicators to me that I needed to move on, so I turned in my notice and left the show, ultimately at the apex of its popularity. To this day, I have never regretted that decision even though it meant not performing with the cast at the Tony Awards. Hamilton ushered me into full adulthood and with adulthood come priority shifts that one never dreams of as a child, when dreaming of taking centerstage on Broadway. I had finally accepted wanting both something more and something gentler at the same time. It was completely the correct decision." So she really shouldn't be complaining then?
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Post by danb on Feb 5, 2020 19:18:35 GMT
www.betsystruxness.com/hamilton"Hamilton being my 6th Broadway show in as many years, burning the candle at both ends was catching up to me. My body hurt. I found the show schedule frustrating and limiting. Performing 8 shows a week was losing its luster. I needed a break. About 6 months into the Broadway run, I was fairly angry most of the time and too tired to be almost anything but miserable, which were major indicators to me that I needed to move on, so I turned in my notice and left the show, ultimately at the apex of its popularity. To this day, I have never regretted that decision even though it meant not performing with the cast at the Tony Awards. Hamilton ushered me into full adulthood and with adulthood come priority shifts that one never dreams of as a child, when dreaming of taking centerstage on Broadway. I had finally accepted wanting both something more and something gentler at the same time. It was completely the correct decision." So she really shouldn't be complaining then? Absolutely not, no. Really misguided to niggle about it. What’s Lin meant to say? The original Broadway cast apart from that woman that got tired and left?
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 5, 2020 19:28:48 GMT
So she really shouldn't be complaining then? Absolutely not, no. Really misguided to niggle about it. What’s Lin meant to say? The original Broadway cast apart from that woman that got tired and left? I'm sure when they were looking at casting for the film the first person on their list was the one who quit because she was so miserable... In her defence I have heard a lot of rumours about how horrible the original cast were to work with. They all got very famous very quickly and their egos went off the charts in a very negative way. I'm sure it wasn't the nicest situation to be in.
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 5, 2020 19:49:51 GMT
They didn't really cast the film so much as film it at the last possible moment that the OBC principals were all still there.
I don't think it's that she wishes she were in it but that the language were more precise.
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