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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 19:48:26 GMT
You prioritise; if I can see The Drowned Man 30~ times without going broke, and you can see the various Mischief shows almost certainly far more than 23 times without having to rob a bank, and if they don't have children or drug habits to feed, then I don't see why a keen Hamilton fan making 23 trips shouldn't be perfectly achievable!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 20:00:05 GMT
You prioritise; if I can see The Drowned Man 30~ times without going broke, and you can see the various Mischief shows almost certainly far more than 23 times without having to rob a bank, and if they don't have children or drug habits to feed, then I don't see why a keen Hamilton fan making 23 trips shouldn't be perfectly achievable! Exactly! and presumably people are sitting in mainly the cheaper seats not the premium ones. Also given the lead-in time to booking, people would have booked many of these tickets over a year ago and paid off the credit cards/earned more money in the interim and therefore spent it on Hammy. If I booked decent tickets for every other show at my local we're talking £25 a pop at least (more for a posher seat). That's kinda the same spread of cost, if you look at it over course of a year.
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Post by fiyero on Apr 15, 2018 20:14:30 GMT
Isn't there a limit of 6 tickets per person for the booking period? I guess they could come with a different friend each time but still seems a stretch! Not judging, I'm seeing it 5 times in its first year (twice so far)
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Post by Rukaya on Apr 15, 2018 21:50:32 GMT
I'm not one to judge people repeat visiting a show, and I won't, but I'm more just amazed and thoroughly impressed that they've been able to see it 23 times already considering the availability (or lack thereof) and the prices! I applaud them, if anything, to have presumably found cheaper seats or having been able to book that many trips in advance.
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Post by shady23 on Apr 15, 2018 21:52:22 GMT
Probably have waited for hours in the returns queue everyday.
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Post by theatrefan77 on Apr 15, 2018 23:19:23 GMT
It's really not as difficult to get the tickets as some people might think. I've seen it 3 times and booked only a couple of weeks in advance. the most I've paid is £57.50.
Of course if you check online on the day they only have Premium seats at £200 but apparently, if they don't sell them, they reduce the price for personal callers close to curtain up.
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Post by poster J on Apr 16, 2018 7:38:54 GMT
I've seen the show 3 times myself and have another 2 booked for much later in the year, but I stand by my view that seeing one fifth of the shows that have taken place is excessive. I get that people can really love a show, and I've done double-show days of a particular show myself, or seen it twice in a week, but I can't imagine wanting to go to a show any more than that no matter how much I love it, and certainly not going once every 5 days or less. Yes, each show is going to be a bit different, but not that different, and I'd rather enjoy rediscovering the show a few weeks or months later. I appreciate people will have different views to me, and that some people on here do see the same show a lot, and that's their prerogative, but I'm also entitled to my opinion.
Frankly I'd also prefer to be able to pay my mortgage and eat, and I just don't get that much time off work. That's just my opinion though, and each to their own, especially if people have a lot more disposable income than me while working clearly a lot fewer hours - I must be in the wrong job.
I don't think it's difficult to get Hamilton tickets, but there is no way they would have got cheap tickets for all of those shows - the booking period restrictions still apply, so that'll be a lot of returns queuing with no guarantee of a cheap ticket, so clearly a significant amount of money is being spent.
My main point though was that bragging about how many times you've seen a show at the stage door is just plain annoying and attention-seeking.
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Post by ellie1981 on Apr 16, 2018 8:23:47 GMT
Maybe they’re rich kids? Students with wealthy parents or something.
I’ve already seen it 4 times and *cringe* have another 5 booked (4 taking new people and one alone), which would make it in contention for the most visits I’ve done for a single show - by far the most in a calendar year. But apart from the previews they have all been at the very least a month apart.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 8:30:40 GMT
I know its quite a cynical opinion, but I do feel with people getting to 20+ viewings this far into run already is somewhat down to gaining bragging rights over the need to repeat the viewing experience. Being able to stand at the stage door and declare that this was their 23rd viewing in as many weeks validates them inside, its the 'fan-girl/guy' mentality. If they can be the person thats seen the show the most then it gives them some security over the biggest fan position, internally. poster J makes a very good point about money as well. I think theres been a change in society over the last decade whereby the younger generations have not been taught the true extent of the value of money. People are so flippant with their finances these days and so heavily dependant on credit. They spend whats in their account, as soon as its in their account, and then some. Theres a real lack of financial foresight and planning for the future. At least in my experience of people I know. It'll be really interesting in 20-40 to see the state of affairs as less and less people own houses and go to retire on an empty pension they forgot to contribute to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 9:00:53 GMT
I know its quite a cynical opinion, but I do feel with people getting to 20+ viewings this far into run already is somewhat down to gaining bragging rights over the need to repeat the viewing experience. Being able to stand at the stage door and declare that this was their 23rd viewing in as many weeks validates them inside, its the 'fan-girl/guy' mentality. If they can be the person thats seen the show the most then it gives them some security over the biggest fan position, internally. poster J makes a very good point about money as well. I think theres been a change in society over the last decade whereby the younger generations have not been taught the true extent of the value of money. People are so flippant with their finances these days and so heavily dependant on credit. They spend whats in their account, as soon as its in their account, and then some. Theres a real lack of financial foresight and planning for the future. At least in my experience of people I know. It'll be really interesting in 20-40 to see the state of affairs as less and less people own houses and go to retire on an empty pension they forgot to contribute to. I think you're absolutely right, generally speaking, but just for the record - I'm in my early 20s and every month pay into a savings account, ISA, and pension ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Better than me!.. ![x_x](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/dead.png) I speak as someone rather ashamedly 'victim' of this change in culture. Only recently started contributing to a pension as a result of the change in legislation. Post-Bills theres a little movement at the end of the month but I still make room and exception for luxuries like theatre trips.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 9:20:10 GMT
Yeah, that's *pretty* cynical. The fact I don't own property has nothing to do with my theatre trips and everything to do with the fact that the average property in my area, which I have no desire to leave, costs fifteen times my annual wage, and even if I did have enough for a 10% deposit, no bank would be willing to lend me the rest based on the fact I am a single person with a single person's income. I know there are loads of articles out there about young people who've made great financial sacrifices and bought houses at a very tender age, but I've yet to find any such article that doesn't make reference to also receiving a large financial gift from a family member. We know the value of money - it's just that our money doesn't buy us as much as our parents' money bought them. I'm fortunate enough to be able to put money into my pension and savings, but a lot of people who spend their money as soon as they have it are doing so because they have no other choice if they want to pay their bills and keep food in the house.
ANYWAY. Bit of a soapbox there, sorry not sorry, so! What about that Hamilton, eh?!
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Post by ellie1981 on Apr 16, 2018 9:31:59 GMT
Absolutely, Baemax. I’m in exactly the same position. I do have regular standing orders going into savings accounts and pay into a pension, but even if I subsidised my leisure spending to top up those payments, it doesn’t make the slightest dent into what I could afford property wise. I’d rather live my life and enjoy it while I can than eat baked beans every night in misery with the lights off. If I had to do that for a couple of years in order to afford a property of my own then I would, but I’d literally have to do that for two decades to even try to make a start, which by that time house prices would have increased ten-fold already anyway.
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Post by showoff on Apr 16, 2018 9:37:45 GMT
Yeah, that's *pretty* cynical. The fact I don't own property has nothing to do with my theatre trips and everything to do with the fact that the average property in my area, which I have no desire to leave, costs fifteen times my annual wage, and even if I did have enough for a 10% deposit, no bank would be willing to lend me the rest based on the fact I am a single person with a single person's income. I know there are loads of articles out there about young people who've made great financial sacrifices and bought houses at a very tender age, but I've yet to find any such article that doesn't make reference to also receiving a large financial gift from a family member. We know the value of money - it's just that our money doesn't buy us as much as our parents' money bought them. I'm fortunate enough to be able to put money into my pension and savings, but a lot of people who spend their money as soon as they have it are doing so because they have no other choice if they want to pay their bills and keep food in the house. ANYWAY. Bit of a soapbox there, sorry not sorry, so! What about that Hamilton, eh?! Also, it's seems that to those people who run these articles about those who don't own their own property, there's nothing more important then buying a house and owing hundreds of thousands of pounds for your entire life. There's no value on if those who don't own their house are actually happy and leading a life that they want to live. Life is short, you could spend the next fifty years trying to pay off a house you cannot really afford, or you can have a life you look forward to living. Home-ownership isn't for everyone, and a lot of other countries don't place that much importance on it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 9:44:54 GMT
Just an observation. Partly fuelled by so many of my peers having £20-40k cars on finance but no interest in investing in an actual asset.
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Post by dizzieblonde on Apr 16, 2018 10:00:32 GMT
You'd think watching a show 23 times about the first Secretary of the Treasury would make for some impressively fiscally responsible people - no?!
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Post by danb on Apr 16, 2018 10:06:04 GMT
Just an observation. Partly fuelled by so many of my peers having £20-40k cars on finance but no interest in investing in an actual asset. Nobody can see you in your house when you stop at the lights in Hampstead making assumptions about how fabulous a person you are & how much better their life is than yours can they? 😏 They will worry about it later in life, then moan about not being able to afford to get on the property ladder aged 44. 🙄😂
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Post by showoff on Apr 16, 2018 10:27:52 GMT
You'd think watching a show 23 times about the first Secretary of the Treasury would make for some impressively fiscally responsible people - no?! Well, even Hamilton himself died in debt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 10:47:27 GMT
Just an observation. Partly fuelled by so many of my peers having £20-40k cars on finance but no interest in investing in an actual asset. Nobody can see you in your house when you stop at the lights in Hampstead making assumptions about how fabulous a person you are & how much better their life is than yours can they? 😏 They will worry about it later in life, then moan about not being able to afford to get on the property ladder aged 44. 🙄😂 Which brings it back round to the "I've seen Hamilton more times than theres been Sundays since it opened, aren't I so dedicated and wondrous" saga.
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Post by danb on Apr 16, 2018 10:52:16 GMT
Nobody can see you in your house when you stop at the lights in Hampstead making assumptions about how fabulous a person you are & how much better their life is than yours can they? 😏 They will worry about it later in life, then moan about not being able to afford to get on the property ladder aged 44. 🙄😂 Which brings it back round to the "I've seen Hamilton more times than theres been Sundays since it opened, aren't I so dedicated and wondrous" saga. On Mummy & Daddy’s credit card?
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Post by ellie1981 on Apr 16, 2018 10:54:37 GMT
Which brings it back round to the "I've seen Hamilton more times than theres been Sundays since it opened, aren't I so dedicated and wondrous" saga. On Mummy & Daddy’s credit card? Only if Mummy and Daddy come with them with ID. I’m taking my Mum in July, but it was on my credit card.
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Post by Stasia on Apr 16, 2018 14:42:09 GMT
Can we get back to politics?
I mean, can people please stop judging others on the amount of theatre visits they made and money they spent? On a theatre forum of all places!
I have a suspicion, that if tell any of my non-theatre friends a story about people disussing this stuff on a forum and actually seeing a show whatever many times they want, they would name both of these types equally crazy.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 16, 2018 16:27:13 GMT
You'd think watching a show 23 times about the first Secretary of the Treasury would make for some impressively fiscally responsible people - no?! Maybe they already are. And what makes it your business?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 16:31:49 GMT
Is 'I bought too many tickets to Hamilton' the new 'Avocado toast'?
I mean seriously I don't really give a damn who is seeing what how many times. But for the judgmental types out there; I'm a Millennial (just) who earlier cried because I have to return my (only 2nd) visit to Hamilton tickets, because I can't afford the travel and accommodation. Because as a Millennial my employment situation is frankly sh*t. And yes, some of us might choose to spend money rather than save because frankly what's the point when we're never going to own property unless someone related to us dies?
Anyway, can we get back to politics yo? Surely there's an understudy to discuss or something.
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Post by MoreLife on Apr 16, 2018 16:35:49 GMT
I have a suspicion, that if tell any of my non-theatre friends a story about people disussing this stuff on a forum and actually seeing a show whatever many times they want, they would name both of these types equally crazy. Wise words! There are shows that I love so much I've gone back to see them several times over long(ish) runs, but I've always feared that too many views over a short period of time might spoil a show for me. Having said that... I spend so much time in theatres that my non-theatre-going friends would however be shocked if they knew how much I can spend in a year on tickets XD
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Post by poster J on Apr 16, 2018 16:53:55 GMT
Wow. I had thought this was a forum where you were entitled to give your opinion. And I expressly said each to their own and it was just my opinion that there is actually a point where repetitive viewing of a show just doesn't make sense TO ME. Everyone is entitled to think differently
But now I'm basically getting accused of judging people when I did no such thing - there is a difference between judgment and opinion-giving and as far as I'm concerned all I did was the latter, so the fact that I'm effectively being vilified for it rather upsets me. I find it quite sad that a comment that could have sparked a reasonable debate has instead been jumped on in an accusatory manner which frankly makes me feel like not posting my thoughts anymore for fear they may offend the majority.
If opinions are no longer welcome and if what's been said on here is what people really think of my character after so long posting on here then maybe this forum is no longer the place I thought it was, which if that's the case is a real shame.
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