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Post by FairyGodmother on Sept 11, 2022 13:26:59 GMT
I can imagine! It seems so funny to think of people all crowding in to watch, where for the King's almost everybody will have their own television/device to watch on.
I'm watching the journey, I'm glad it's a dry day and people can turn out to watch.
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Post by ronnette on Sept 11, 2022 21:54:07 GMT
Just caught up on Her Majesty’s journey today.
What an honour for those young men who carried her into Holyrood.
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 12, 2022 12:13:38 GMT
I tried to get down to The Palace yesterday.
Firstly the Jubilee Line wasn't stopping at Green Park so I had to walk from Bond Street.
I got about 3/4 of the was through Green Park and there were just (understandably) thousands of people.
I actually asked one of the attendants the best route and actually turned around and came home.
I am lucky enough to live in Zone 2 in London so can be at Green Park in under 20 minutes so will try again.
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Post by profquatermass on Sept 12, 2022 12:14:12 GMT
of the many things going through my emotional head today, the thought crossed it of who will be re-embroidering the mammoth ROH curtain? stamps, bank notes. Full marks to Huw Edwards to simply keeping going for so long yesterday. Post boxes have had the E 👑 R insignia emblazoned on them for 70 years, they will all have to be changed. Not only bank notes but all of our coins, she is omnipresent throughout our society and culture. It’s a huge change and could take years. They don't change postboxes. Have a more careful look at them - there are still loads of GR and even VR ones. There are even about 60 Edward VIII postboxes around
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 12, 2022 12:54:59 GMT
Full marks to Huw Edwards to simply keeping going for so long yesterday. I must admit on the day the announcement came through he look like he was going just loose it and burst into huge Welsh man- sobs!
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 12, 2022 13:57:38 GMT
And The Queen's Corgi's have been saved. They will now live with Prince Andrew and his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson
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Post by Someone in a tree on Sept 12, 2022 17:11:09 GMT
Poor dogs. What have they done to deserve Andrew ?
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Post by jojo on Sept 12, 2022 17:56:21 GMT
Absolutely. But perhaps the decision was along the lines of many of the rehoming charities, where they don't want dogs to go to families that are out all day. The rest of the family are all still working and with a bit of luck he'll not show his face in public again after his mother's funeral.
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Post by longinthetooth on Sept 12, 2022 19:08:07 GMT
I read somewhere that the corgis were gifted to the Queen by Andrew and Sarah. Her Majesty was concerned about taking on new puppies at her time of life, and only accepted them as long as A & S agreed to take them back and look after them, should she pass away.
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Post by sph on Sept 13, 2022 13:06:01 GMT
I remember watching a documentary a few years ago about what would happen to the world if humans suddenly disappeared. It showed all the things you'd expect like cities becoming overgrown etc and how long it would take for everything to happen. But most bizarrely, it kept cutting to what would happen to... The Queen's corgis. It was very strange. Like: "Day 7. The Queen's corgis have now been alone for a week" etc. Weird.
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 13, 2022 15:39:02 GMT
I mean no disrespect, but does anybody else find it absolute madness they're closing everything on the 19th? Cinemas, Center Parcs, a show I booked for got rescheduled. I understand some people are sad and wish to mourn, that is of course their right, but to force the country to a standstill is stupid.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 13, 2022 15:54:25 GMT
I mean no disrespect, but does anybody else find it absolute madness they're closing everything on the 19th? Cinemas, Center Parcs, a show I booked for got rescheduled. I understand some people are sad and wish to mourn, that is of course their right, but to force the country to a standstill is stupid. It's a historic event that many staff will probably also want to stay home or travel to London to watch. I think asking people to actually vacate centre parcs is nuts and will hopefully be reversed but I suppose it's about accident risk.
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 13, 2022 15:58:24 GMT
I mean no disrespect, but does anybody else find it absolute madness they're closing everything on the 19th? Cinemas, Center Parcs, a show I booked for got rescheduled. I understand some people are sad and wish to mourn, that is of course their right, but to force the country to a standstill is stupid. It's a historic event that many staff will probably also want to stay home or travel to London to watch. I think asking people to actually vacate centre parcs is nuts and will hopefully be reversed but I suppose it's about accident risk. I suppose. I'm thinking more of those who will lose a days wages whether they want to or not.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 13, 2022 17:44:45 GMT
Lovely gesture from the BFI.
From Wednesday 14 September, Her Majesty will lie in state at Westminster Hall for five days with a substantial number of people anticipated to pay their respects. The South Bank will play an important part in the queue management, and the BFI will be supporting this.
BFI Southbank will be open 24 hours a day from today until 06:00 on Monday 19 September. Our coffee bar and restaurant will be open throughout, and our toilet facilities will be available via The Riverfront entrance for the comfort of those queuing. We’ll also be screening a selection of films featuring Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II along South Bank by Waterloo Bridge.
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Post by sph on Sept 13, 2022 18:03:39 GMT
It does seem a bit mad to be kicking people out of Centre Parcs for a 24 hour period. That just makes no sense at all.
I understand that it's a historic day in many ways, but there are still many people who will have to continue working just to keep the infrastructure of society going. Nowadays people have the freedom to choose whether or not they mourn, it shouldn't be enforced like we've gone back in time 100 years - or more!
And on the edge of a massive economic crisis, should we really bring everything grinding to a halt?
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Post by alece10 on Sept 13, 2022 18:19:02 GMT
From Vue cinemas
We will be screening the funeral of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, in selected UK venues* on Monday, 19 September, live from 10am. Seats will be free of charge and our retail offering on this day will be limited to complimentary bottled water during the broadcast, with no other snacks or drinks available for purchase. On this day we will not be showing our normal programme of films.
In addition, we will also screen the London Procession in the majority of our UK venues on Wednesday, 14 September, live from 1:30pm. On this day all other screens will be open showing film content as normal.
We look forward to coming together as a community to honor the remarkable life of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
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Post by sweets7 on Sept 13, 2022 22:22:50 GMT
From Vue cinemas We will be screening the funeral of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, in selected UK venues* on Monday, 19 September, live from 10am. Seats will be free of charge and our retail offering on this day will be limited to complimentary bottled water during the broadcast, with no other snacks or drinks available for purchase. On this day we will not be showing our normal programme of films. In addition, we will also screen the London Procession in the majority of our UK venues on Wednesday, 14 September, live from 1:30pm. On this day all other screens will be open showing film content as normal. We look forward to coming together as a community to honor the remarkable life of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. What a lovely thing. If you were on your own and really wanted to watch it in company. Such a lovely act.
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Post by vickyg on Sept 14, 2022 8:28:10 GMT
I mean no disrespect, but does anybody else find it absolute madness they're closing everything on the 19th? Cinemas, Center Parcs, a show I booked for got rescheduled. I understand some people are sad and wish to mourn, that is of course their right, but to force the country to a standstill is stupid. I'm thinking of it more as companies giving their employees the opportunity to pay their respects. I went to my first 'thing' last night, the Hilary Hahn and Lera Auerbach concert at Wigmore Hall. My first experience of the 'moment of reflection' amongst a group and they added a piece called Postlude to the beginning of the programme which was extremely moving.
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Post by jojo on Sept 14, 2022 10:43:27 GMT
The short notice doesn't help, but it's interesting that people who would support more public holidays are getting angry at the consequences of people taking a day off. Granted, many organisations normally stay open on a public holiday, and it's not always a simple case of everything moving back by a day. If you have a hospital appointment postponed, it may not be rescheduled for another month.
However, the guidance was very clear. No organisation is forced to close or not provide their normal service at any time, and it's just a recommendation about rescheduling certain activities if they clash with the funeral. The logistics of modifying business or closing for the morning only were perhaps more complicated than shutting things down for a full day, so I have sympathy for those tasked with making a quick decision.
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Post by sfsusan on Sept 14, 2022 19:20:16 GMT
Watching today's procession, I have some questions. (I'm American, so forgive my ignorance of some of the traditions.) I know that Prince Harry isn't allowed to wear a military uniform, but because he served on active duty (rather than being associated with the military in an honorary role based on his then-status as a senior royal), is he not considered a veteran in his own right?
Why do some of the red-uniformed walkers have black mourning armbands and others don't?
I liked Anne's trousered uniform. I assume that's not traditional?
I happened to be in Knightsbridge on some errands, walking the perimeter of Hyde Park when they were firing the minute gun. My gosh, that sound travels! One minute is just long enough that you can't quite anticipate the next one. I jumped... every single time.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 14, 2022 19:49:29 GMT
As far as I have been able to find, Anne is the first female royal to walk in this sort of procession. So she is able to set his own tradition.
I think the reason that Harry and Andrew were not in uniform is because they no longer hold any official position with the armed services and as this is a formal ceremony, only current military representatives are in uniform. They were still wearing the medals they earned whilst in service.
Black arm bands are, I think, a matter of personal choice.
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Post by ncbears on Sept 14, 2022 19:57:24 GMT
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Post by sfsusan on Sept 14, 2022 20:23:34 GMT
I think the reason that Harry and Andrew were not in uniform is because they no longer hold any official position with the armed services and as this is a formal ceremony, only current military representatives are in uniform. So Anne and Edward are still representatives, hence the uniforms. In the US, veterans and retirees generally may wear dress uniforms on 'appropriate' occasions, including (I've read) funerals.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 14, 2022 20:48:51 GMT
There us also something to do with the fact that they are "non working" members of the Royal family.
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Post by sweets7 on Sept 14, 2022 21:04:59 GMT
Once your retired in the UK you can’t wear your uniform. So Harry can’t wear his own and as a non working royal he can’t wear the ones he used to have as ceremonial.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 15, 2022 7:25:03 GMT
I suspect a lot of playwrights/TV writers etc. will be rushing to join The Queue. I switched on the BBC livestream at midnight last night and there were 44,000 viewing.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 15, 2022 8:19:23 GMT
And with that Radio 5 interviewed James Graham about The Queue.
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Post by sfsusan on Sept 15, 2022 10:23:40 GMT
Once your retired in the UK you can’t wear your uniform. So Harry can’t wear his own and as a non working royal he can’t wear the ones he used to have as ceremonial. Ah, that's the difference. Thank you, it makes complete sense now.
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Post by jojo on Sept 15, 2022 11:37:26 GMT
Once your retired in the UK you can’t wear your uniform. So Harry can’t wear his own and as a non working royal he can’t wear the ones he used to have as ceremonial. From what I can tell, it's normal or at least acceptable for retired military personnel in the US to continue wearing their uniforms, whereas that's something that's very definitely not allowed in the UK and is seen as a big no no. The only reason Harry and Andrew used to be allowed to wear uniforms after they retired was because as senior working royals they took on new/extra ceremonial roles within the military. In that sense they were sort of still military. When Harry decided he didn't want to be a working royal any-more, his ceremonial roles ended. So he wasn't allowed to wear a uniform, same as everyone else who has retired from the army. The same for Andrew, except it wasn't his choice to step back. It's all very well saying that Harry spent more time in the military than William, but most military spent more time in the organisation than Harry and none of them get to wear their uniform once they are fully retired. Harry is on the receiving end of unfair abuse, but I'm not kept up at night because he doesn't get to wear a ceremonial military uniform. I'm guessing a lot of the outrage started in America they because they don't realise that they are following the rules, and that doesn't require a big conspiracy. Perhaps they could have come to an arrangement so that Harry kept a ceremonial role somewhere, but if you are a republican complaining about special privileges for the royal family then you probably shouldn't be complaining that they didn't make a new rule so one of their own got special treatment. Mind you, half of the folk moaning about this are under the impression that Andrew was wearing a military uniform yesterday and/or that Harry is the only one with a real military career. It might have been easier to create a loophole for Harry if Andrew wasn't hanging around, refusing to get the hint that he's an embarrassment.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Sept 15, 2022 11:40:08 GMT
Once your retired in the UK you can’t wear your uniform. So Harry can’t wear his own and as a non working royal he can’t wear the ones he used to have as ceremonial. Ah, that's the difference. Thank you, it makes complete sense now. So the Chelsea Pensioners we see at Remembrance Sunday are still serving?
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