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Post by justsaying113 on Jan 16, 2021 21:37:11 GMT
Gender neutral casting - Elaine Paige as Fagin!
It's a joke!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 0:09:29 GMT
Gender neutral casting - Elaine Paige as Fagin! It's a joke!!! The Ramps on the Moon / Bryon Lavery adaptation of the original that opened in Leeds last March (and was meant to tour, but cancelled due to the pandemic) had a female Fagin. So maybe it could work for the musical also!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 0:35:37 GMT
Just adding my thoughts on a potential Oliver! revival...
I love this show so much, and I loved the Drury Lane production - my first visit there and is probably my favourite West End theatre. However if Mackintosh is to bring it back, I would not be surprised if it was the Laurence Connor tour production from 2011-13, which was similar to Drury Lane production...which was similar to the Palladium! I wouldn't mind if this was the case, but also maybe it could be a good opportunity for a completely new version.
Also whilst the Prince Edward would be one of the most likely theatres size-wise to bring it back to, and this maybe a very pedantic point here - but I feel like it would be an odd choice with its 1930's art deco design would clash with the Victorian setting. As I say, a pedantic point that maybe people might not necessarily care about but Mackintosh has previously expressed how much a show has to feel right in the right theatre.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 17, 2021 1:17:40 GMT
Gender neutral casting - Elaine Paige as Fagin! It's a joke!!! The Ramps on the Moon / Bryon Lavery adaptation of the original that opened in Leeds last March (and was meant to tour, but cancelled due to the pandemic) had a female Fagin. So maybe it could work for the musical also! Maureen Lipman it is then...
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Post by missbabs on Jan 18, 2021 22:58:45 GMT
I'd love to see Adeel Akhtar as Fagin.
Or how about Toby Jones?
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Post by cjamess on Nov 8, 2021 20:44:32 GMT
After its done in Japan going into Prince Edward...
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Post by Figaro on Nov 8, 2021 21:35:04 GMT
Hasn’t it finished in Japan?
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Post by danb on Nov 8, 2021 22:02:39 GMT
Then maybe they’ll bring ‘Thriller’ back, or possibly Miss Saigon again or a limited season of Rocky Horror.
Put. New. Things. On!
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Post by theatreian on Nov 8, 2021 22:15:54 GMT
I guess Oliver is guaranteed to put audiences on seats, what new shows are not. I think this will happen for a while yet as tourist numbers are still down and theatres rely on domestic audiences and what they know they like. It's a shame for those developing new shows but I guess the business that is show is a business and bills have to be paid. Covid has a lot to answer for and it's effects will last for some time.
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Post by Mark on Nov 8, 2021 22:21:57 GMT
That and the Prince Edward would be a huge ask for a new show to fill. Even Poppins is struggling to sell there in the current climate.
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Post by Jon on Nov 8, 2021 23:28:27 GMT
TBF I imagine it was Cameron's plan for Poppins to only run for say 2 years then go back on tour.
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Post by danb on Nov 9, 2021 5:20:10 GMT
I wouldn’t mind but I just find that Oliver! production so dark and unappealing. It was my first (and only) West End opening night and I remember being so excited sat there in the Palladium, only to have all the joy sucked out of the piece (I know there shouldn’t be a lot) by Mendes’ dour staging and Prices’ Fagin. A total personal preference though. I wouldn’t be averse to a female Fagin either.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 9, 2021 7:15:22 GMT
Isn’t the whole depiction of Fagin way too problematic? The character’s gender is the least of their problems I would have thought.
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Post by Jan on Nov 9, 2021 7:43:09 GMT
Isn’t the whole depiction of Fagin way too problematic? The character’s gender is the least of their problems I would have thought. Given what's going on at the Royal Court I make you right.
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Post by danb on Nov 9, 2021 7:43:34 GMT
Isn’t the whole depiction of Fagin way too problematic? The character’s gender is the least of their problems I would have thought. Most definitely!
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Post by showtoones on Nov 9, 2021 7:51:30 GMT
What’s happening at the Royal Court? Forgive me…I don’t live in the UK
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 9, 2021 7:56:24 GMT
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Post by David J on Nov 9, 2021 8:38:39 GMT
Even though the musical is written and composed by a jew and is more sympathetic compared to the source material?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 6, 2022 10:57:38 GMT
Another one not happening then? If it ever was?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 6, 2022 11:03:35 GMT
I live in fear they'll cast Matt Lucas as Fagin
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 6, 2022 11:06:40 GMT
I was thinking Carrie as Nancy might have been a good choice but not now she’s going on tour.
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Post by Mark on Mar 6, 2022 11:31:16 GMT
Another one not happening then? If it ever was? Is there reason to believe it isn't?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 6, 2022 11:35:47 GMT
Another one not happening then? If it ever was? Is there reason to believe it isn't? Oh it’s happening. Sadly.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 6, 2022 11:36:08 GMT
I was thinking Carrie as Nancy might have been a good choice but not now she’s going on tour. Spare us!
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Post by FairyGodmother on Mar 6, 2022 11:41:43 GMT
I can't believe it's been so long since its last outing. I really enjoyed the ALW programme.
The Over the Rainbow lot are all about the same age as Carrie aren't they? I wonder if any of those might be suitable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2022 17:36:03 GMT
I would love to see them cast this beautifully like the original Palladium production - Sally Dexter and Miles Anderson were classical RSC actors who brought all of their training and experience to Nancy and Sikes (they were straight out of Dickens), and Jonathan Pryce (while also known for his musical work) too came with his classical and repertory schooling - these three actors elevated the material significantly and were the reason along with Sam Mendes' vivid new production, why the show was such a success in the 1990s. The 2009 revival casting was cheesy, and ever since then the production has gone downhill. But like Mary Poppins and Les Mis, Cameron's taste in good casting has diminished and I'm guessing this Oliver! will have poor casting. I'd love to be surprised!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 6, 2022 17:57:55 GMT
I was thinking Carrie as Nancy might have been a good choice but not now she’s going on tour. Spare us! Jodie Prenger it is then!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2022 19:26:53 GMT
Jodie was the campest Nancy I've ever seen. I then remember seeing Kerry Ellis when she replaced and she looked so bored. Will never forget her phoning her entire performance in.
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Post by theatreian on Mar 6, 2022 21:38:58 GMT
Sonia Swaby was great when she did it. Must admit I enjoyed Jodie as Nancy, remember the time i saw her she got a massive applause when she came on.Don't expect the new production will have the same massive cast as last time though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2022 21:43:35 GMT
Indeed, Sonia Swaby was stunning.
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