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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 18:39:02 GMT
I'm sure she didn't mean it this way but I was surprised someone usually so articulate would make such a comment.  |
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Post by indis on Jun 6, 2016 18:40:41 GMT
Good thing i don't care one bit for this woman, her books and movies  |
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Post by infofreako on Jun 6, 2016 18:49:04 GMT
It seems such an odd comment to make but the more i read it the more im convinced its exactly what she meant.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 18:52:09 GMT
Ridiculously pompous woman who hasn't quite managed to let go of Harry Potter since finishing the last book in 2007. I wouldn't expect she frequently visits the theatre as in her talking about Cursed Child she seems to know little about the art form, the theatre community or how anybody who isn't a Potterhead(?) actually thinks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 18:53:57 GMT
She does have a habit of coming across as a bit superior on twitter at times, especially if facing any kind of criticism. Shame as I've always been a big fan of hers, but that's the downside of Twitter.
I agree actually, she probably did know exactly what she is saying
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 18:59:54 GMT
I dont know how she can say this, very closed minded
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 6, 2016 19:07:22 GMT
Just writing a play that is oh so important it has to span two nights has put me off her. I know there are other plays like this out there, but by people with no theatrical expierence? To me it just seems lazy overindulgence.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 6, 2016 19:13:27 GMT
Yes, but she has also claimed that she didn't realise at first that Harry Potter is fantasy, so, you know, the whole categorisation thing is not her strong suit.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 6, 2016 19:15:06 GMT
This is so off to me, and it is phrased in a way that seems like she meant what was said... I mean.. I can't seem to think how this phrase coukd be taken out of context.. Just writing a play that is oh so important it has to span two nights has put me off her. I know there are other plays like this out there, but by people with no theatrical expierence? To me it just seems lazy overindulgence. How do you mean spans 2 nights? |
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 6, 2016 19:20:40 GMT
How do you mean spans 2 nights? The play is in two parts and you have to go on two consecutive* nights (and pay twice as much!) *possibly not consecutive now, but the initial tickets were sold that way |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 6, 2016 19:23:51 GMT
How do you mean spans 2 nights? The play is in two parts and you have to go on two consecutive nights (and pay twice as much!) For real? Is that like a gimmick, or something other legit play (/musicals that are also theatre I think..!!) do? That also seems super sketchy-like a money milking scheme. Are both parts loger than 2 hours each? Why not Long Day's Journey Into Night it and get it over with... Also this- |
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 6, 2016 19:25:33 GMT
The play is in two parts and you have to go on two consecutive nights (and pay twice as much!) For real? Is that like a gimmick, or something other legit play (/musicals that are also theatre I think..!!) do? That also seems super sketchy-like a money milking scheme. Are both parts loger than 2 hours each? Why not Long Day's Journey Into Night it and get it over with... p There are other two part plays, but generally by people with a better theatrical pedigree than someone writing a kids book. |
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Post by stuartmcd on Jun 6, 2016 19:26:20 GMT
How do you mean spans 2 nights? The play is in two parts and you have to go on two consecutive* nights (and pay twice as much!) *possibly not consecutive now, but the initial tickets were sold that way Yeah you can do it all in one day and it's been like that from the start. You do get your money's worth as both parts are over 2 and a half hours each |
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Post by infofreako on Jun 6, 2016 19:27:55 GMT
Think she would have specified movie musicals if she had meant that. To me its very clear she means stage musicals
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Post by duncan on Jun 6, 2016 19:29:40 GMT
Of course I should point out that she hasnt actually written the play(s)unless she has changed her name to Jack Thorne.
...and she doesnt like musicals, big deal - I suspect millions of people in the UK dont like musicals but it doesnt bother me.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 6, 2016 19:30:49 GMT
The play is in two parts and you have to go on two consecutive* nights (and pay twice as much!) *possibly not consecutive now, but the initial tickets were sold that way Yeah you can do it all in one day and it's been like that from the start. You do get your money's worth as both parts are over 2 and a half hours each Previews haven't started yet right? (Sorry I'm not really following this show).. I look forward to reviews.. to see if there is there really so much (interesting/ relevant) content that she couldn't cut it down to a 3 hour play...? |
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Post by duncan on Jun 6, 2016 19:32:46 GMT
Yeah you can do it all in one day and it's been like that from the start. You do get your money's worth as both parts are over 2 and a half hours each Previews haven't started yet right? (Sorry I'm not really following this show).. I look forward to reviews.. to see if there is there really so much (interesting/ relevant) content that she couldn't cut it down to a 3 hour play...? Again, she hasnt written it - JACK THORNE has written the play from a story by Rowling. |
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Post by stuartmcd on Jun 6, 2016 19:34:07 GMT
Yeah you can do it all in one day and it's been like that from the start. You do get your money's worth as both parts are over 2 and a half hours each Previews haven't started yet right? (Sorry I'm not really following this show).. I look forward to reviews.. to see if there is there really so much (interesting/ relevant) content that she couldn't cut it down to a 3 hour play...? Previews start tomorrow so it will be interesting to hear the audiences opinions. Previews are running for two months so I think they're quite open to feedback and change. It's been said a few times that it will be clear why they have chosen to do this as a play rather than a book/movie and why it is in two parts so again it will be interesting to see what everyones first opinions are. |
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 6, 2016 19:34:16 GMT
Of course I should point out that she hasnt actually written the play(s)unless she has changed her name to Jack Thorne. Yes, that's very true. Though will totally irrelevant to 99% of the audience. |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 6, 2016 19:34:30 GMT
Of course I should point out that she hasnt actually written the play(s)unless she has changed her name to Jack Thorne. ...and she doesnt like musicals, big deal - I suspect millions of people in the UK dont like musicals but it doesnt bother me. It's perfectly fine to dislike musicals, and to be vocal about it too... but to make a point that musicals are not theatre (and musical theatre performers are what..? They don't perform live to an audience? Or maybe a song isn't magical as opposed to a scene reading straight...) I don't know- I can see why people in musical THEATRE are taking offence.. |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 6, 2016 19:35:43 GMT
Previews haven't started yet right? (Sorry I'm not really following this show).. I look forward to reviews.. to see if there is there really so much (interesting/ relevant) content that she couldn't cut it down to a 3 hour play...? Again, she hasnt written it - JACK THORNE has written the play from a story by Rowling. Jesus, I wrote my post before seeing yours, and I don't follow this show.. Please let me repent for my sins! (And calm down mate) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 19:35:44 GMT
Of course I should point out that she hasnt actually written the play(s)unless she has changed her name to Jack Thorne. ...and she doesnt like musicals, big deal - I suspect millions of people in the UK dont like musicals but it doesnt bother me. That's not the point...if you read the article she says musicals aren't theatre. Which is ridiculous |
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Post by ali973 on Jun 6, 2016 20:10:50 GMT
hmmm...I might sound like a self-loathing musical theatre fan, but I do get what she's trying to say, despite how clunky and pedestrian she comes across.
Musicals are not considered high performance art. They are not ballet, opera or classical music, and they are not Shakespeare or drama like Ibsen, Shakespeare, Arthur Miller, etc.
The reality is that musicals are actually pretty simplistic, popular and earnest. Nothing wrong with that, clearly I am on a musicals board and musicals are the thing I am most passionate about in life. To call musicals not "theatre" is factually wrong. I think what she means to say is that musicals is not the highest form of theatre, which, I think she is entitled to.
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Post by infofreako on Jun 6, 2016 20:14:28 GMT
hmmm...I might sound like a self-loathing musical theatre fan, but I do get what she's trying to say, despite how clunky and pedestrian she comes across. Musicals are not considered high performance art. They are not ballet, opera or classical music, and they are not Shakespeare or drama like Ibsen, Shakespeare, Arthur Miller, etc. The reality is that musicals are actually pretty simplistic, popular and earnest. Nothing wrong with that, clearly I am on a musicals board and musicals are the thing I am most passionate about in life. To call musicals not "theatre" is factually wrong. I think what she means to say is that musicals is not the highest form of theatre, which, I think she is entitled to. Even if thats what she means it still comes across as very insulting towards those who work hard making their living in musical theatre |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 20:17:09 GMT
Some might say that her Harry Potters aren't books... (I've never been able to make it to the end of page one, so I'm not qualified to speak really. But I've sat through a film, and that was bad enough. And that Harry Potter Studio was summed up by some drunken man being "filmed" against a green curtain riding a broomstick. Only he wasn't riding it so much as... well, I'm sure you can guess.)
None of it High Literature...
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Post by ali973 on Jun 6, 2016 20:19:44 GMT
She has the right not to like the genre, infofreako.
I read the tweet again. She doesn't even say what I thought she said. She says she doesn't like musicals but like "theatre" i.e. she likes straight theatre/non-musicals. What's the big deal? I actually happen not to like non-musical theatre. I really don't understand why people feel insulted when there is nothing disrespectful in what she says.
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Post by Michael on Jun 6, 2016 20:24:45 GMT
hmmm...I might sound like a self-loathing musical theatre fan, but I do get what she's trying to say, despite how clunky and pedestrian she comes across. Musicals are not considered high performance art. They are not ballet, opera or classical music, and they are not Shakespeare or drama like Ibsen, Shakespeare, Arthur Miller, etc. The reality is that musicals are actually pretty simplistic, popular and earnest. Nothing wrong with that, clearly I am on a musicals board and musicals are the thing I am most passionate about in life. To call musicals not "theatre" is factually wrong. I think what she means to say is that musicals is not the highest form of theatre, which, I think she is entitled to. Transfering this to literature, aren't her Harry Potter books considered as being the Musicals of literature? I read the tweet again. She doesn't even say what I thought she said. She says she doesn't like musicals but like "theatre" i.e. she likes straight theatre/non-musicals. What's the big deal? I actually happen not to like non-musical theatre. I really don't understand why people feel insulted when there is nothing disrespectful in what she says. Maybe she should have used the word Plays instead. |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 6, 2016 20:29:10 GMT
hmmm...I might sound like a self-loathing musical theatre fan, but I do get what she's trying to say, despite how clunky and pedestrian she comes across. Musicals are not considered high performance art. They are not ballet, opera or classical music, and they are not Shakespeare or drama like Ibsen, Shakespeare, Arthur Miller, etc. The reality is that musicals are actually pretty simplistic, popular and earnest. Nothing wrong with that, clearly I am on a musicals board and musicals are the thing I am most passionate about in life. To call musicals not "theatre" is factually wrong. I think what she means to say is that musicals is not the highest form of theatre, which, I think she is entitled to. There are some musicals I wouldn't classify as 'simplistic' at all (Sondheim's work pops to mind first- Passion for example) but there are others too.. But I get what you're saying. She could have worded it "straight theatre" or "plays" and this debate wouldn't be... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 20:48:20 GMT
It's not that she doesn't like musicals, it's that she doesn't class them as theatre. Mind you I've see people on here say the same thing about shows like Thriller, let it be, the illusionists etc
Anyone else I'd say it's a mistake, but jk rowling seems to canny and knowing to do something like that
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Post by horton on Jun 6, 2016 20:53:18 GMT
It's ok because I don't count Harry Potter as Literature. As Truman Capote would say, "that isn't writing, it's typing".
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