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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 12:23:48 GMT
It's all so beautifully done. You really feel like you're watching something truly magical, and the dementors at the end were absolutely fantastic!
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Post by rumbledoll on Jun 8, 2016 13:23:25 GMT
Thank you for the review, Kevin! And how's Jamie Parker? (sorry the only thing that interests me about this ) My friend is now making sure I watch the films but I'm not very impressed by the story or characters I must admit...
He is very good. Get past the fact he doesn't sound like Daniel Radcliffe (takes 10 seconds) and he basically is an older Harry Potter. Not to discredit his acting abilities, but I think the fact JKR has been involved means the script (despite not writing it herself) really does give us a familiar Harry, which helps us warm to him as Harry instantly. Thus far, it isn't a hugely challenging part. He has plenty of stage time, but I didn't feel like he was the main character at all - which is probably why Jamie isn't being pushed to the front above the rest of the cast. Thanks! Frankly by watching the films I could not understand how we all are supposed to like the character of Harry. He is so boring... Or is it just me? )
So judging by the events in Part 1 does it mean that where will be no Jamie in Part 2?
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Post by Jon on Jun 8, 2016 13:39:57 GMT
I'm sure Jamie will appear in part 2, would be odd for him to be one part but not the other. Harry likely won't stay dead for long.
I get the feeling something bad will happen to Scorpius in part 2 but we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by dippy on Jun 8, 2016 13:45:44 GMT
I'm sure Harry will be around again soon too. I think that Scorpius will find where he is now very interesting, I have a funny feeling that he's very popular there. I have no idea what will cause him to get out the time turner and try to get back to normal but I think we have to be very glad that Albus took Scorpius along with him or we'd be stuck forever!
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Post by Jon on Jun 8, 2016 14:06:30 GMT
I'm sure Harry will be around again soon too. I think that Scorpius will find where he is now very interesting, I have a funny feeling that he's very popular there. I have no idea what will cause him to get out the time turner and try to get back to normal but I think we have to be very glad that Albus took Scorpius along with him or we'd be stuck forever! The burden of legacy might play a part in Scorpius' decision to fix the timeline. Being Voldemort's son if that turns out to be true could be the crux of it.
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Post by Jon on Jun 8, 2016 14:27:33 GMT
Well I assume Scorpius will discover in his altered universe, that he is the son of Voldemort and presumably will meet certain death eaters (but this is his altered future - I do believe Draco is his father). He'll be appalled and return to the past a 3rd time, but presumably he'll need to return to a time before task 1 in order to correct Cedric's and Harry's fate? It'll be quite interesting to see a world where Voldemort won. If the Battle of Hogwarts was never fought, there's a huge chance a lot of other dead characters might get a reprieve before Scorpius changes the timeline. However I don't see that lasting long - maybe an hour? In the present Voldemort's allies are aligning and Harry's scar is hurting (which despite Ron's diagnosis, I doubt is because he's 'getting older') - and this all takes place before Voldemort gets a reprieve in the past. Bane mentioned another war, so something is going to go down, but who could be gathering folk? I've always wondered if Bellatrix was pregnant when she was put into Askaban the first time, but that's just me fanboying. I wonder if Scorpius will have make the terrible decision of having to let Cedric die in order to fix things. I've been reading up on the time turner and it's unstable magic so I do wonder how it ended up in the hands of an eleven year boy given that Hermione had to get permission to use one in Prisoner of Azkaban.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 14:42:43 GMT
Well I assume Scorpius will discover in his altered universe, that he is the son of Voldemort and presumably will meet certain death eaters (but this is his altered future - I do believe Draco is his father). He'll be appalled and return to the past a 3rd time, but presumably he'll need to return to a time before task 1 in order to correct Cedric's and Harry's fate? It'll be quite interesting to see a world where Voldemort won. If the Battle of Hogwarts was never fought, there's a huge chance a lot of other dead characters might get a reprieve before Scorpius changes the timeline. However I don't see that lasting long - maybe an hour? In the present Voldemort's allies are aligning and Harry's scar is hurting (which despite Ron's diagnosis, I doubt is because he's 'getting older') - and this all takes place before Voldemort gets a reprieve in the past. Bane mentioned another war, so something is going to go down, but who could be gathering folk? I've always wondered if Bellatrix was pregnant when she was put into Askaban the first time, but that's just me fanboying. I wonder if Scorpius will have make the terrible decision of having to let Cedric die in order to fix things. I've been reading up on the time turner and it's unstable magic so I do wonder how it ended up in the hands of an eleven year boy given that Hermione had to get permission to use one in Prisoner of Azkaban. They steal the timturner from the Ministry. It is the only one left after they were all destroyed.
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Post by rumbledoll on Jun 8, 2016 15:11:19 GMT
Do you mean I have to watch Part 2 as well?!! Kidding. Thanks for your answers. I should've assumed that this kind of magic extends long way beyond someone's death..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 16:10:05 GMT
Interesting there's no curtain call at Part One. I guess it's appropriate in context as the story is halfway there. That's a bit weird but I assume that they'll add one later on otherwise it'll just be like a really long interval where you applaud but the actors don't come out. I'm sure other two or three part plays like Henry IV and Angels in America have had curtain calls. The London Annual 50 Hour Improvathon manages to go from Friday 7pm right through to Sunday 9pm before they finally have a curtain call so I wouldn't be so sure
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Post by emilyrose on Jun 8, 2016 21:44:59 GMT
[spoilers] WHERE ON EARTH DO YOU START? I've been literally sat on the edge of my (newly refurbished) seat. As soon as I walked in and saw the stage (prior to the show starting the curtain isn't down) I just knew it was going to start with the last chapter of book 7. And that it when my heart began to panic and suddenly it wasn't JKR's book, but mine and I had to be protective of it at all costs. Except it isn't mine and what is done is done. When they started and they played out that last chapter, I wasn't impressed with the retconning - where is all this extra dialogue coming from? This isn't how you wrote it JKR! But I took a deep breathe and let it wash by - because it didn't make any difference. Then things moved very quickly and it started to lead me down a road I wasn't prepared for: Harry didn't get a happy ending and whilst Voldemort (with JKR's original pronunciation) was gone, that didn't mean that they all lived happily ever after... and they really drive the point home. Obviously he couldn't because there'd be no story, but those books were my childhood and I can't believe she's done this to me.
But I deal with it and then discover that Harry's son befriend's his nemesis' son and becomes a Slytherin. I tell myself this makes no difference and quickly remind myself Snape, Regulus and Slughorn were all decent Slytherins. I breathe and let them continue but they continue to mess with my mind by announcing the possibility that SCORPIUS MIGHT BE VOLDEMORT'S SON. Cue an audible gasp around the entire theatre. We then travel through time, through scene after scene after scene and we meet the bigger characters we loved from the books and it felt a bit like coming home. Brownie points team, brownie points. Then they do their worst. Their very worst. They kill off Harry Potter and bring back Voldemort. Then set dementors on the audience. All I can say is thank god I'm an adult who understands the time travel bit and the idea that all will come right in the end - but 10 year old me would be sobbing between parts 1 and 2. I need time to process the rest but it's all very, very well done. This will never leave the west end. JK didn't have actually write it though. Did she? I thought it was Jack Thorne.
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Post by Jon on Jun 8, 2016 23:03:21 GMT
JK Rowling came up with the story along with Jack Thorne and John Tiffany but the actual script is Jack Thorne
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 8, 2016 23:56:28 GMT
Oh I bet the Forbidden Forest is a magical set! There isn't actually a forest set. The theatre goes dark (all exit signs are turned off etc) and Bane emerges from the back of the stage. We only see his legs and torso (4 legs) but it's all very well done. Is that even legal?! Sounds like an OHS nightmare.
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 9, 2016 0:02:32 GMT
Someone *will* try to leave then hurt themselves tripping over an usher.
(They always do...)
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 9, 2016 0:33:29 GMT
So if you get bored and want to leave there is a lock-in policy?
Oh man.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Jun 9, 2016 0:36:59 GMT
I'm sure people can wait 30 seconds, and it would be tremendously unlikely if someone became violently ill or something and needed to run out during those few minutes. Anyway in a genuine emergency surely they'd turn the house lights on asap?
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 9, 2016 4:56:00 GMT
There isn't actually a forest set. The theatre goes dark (all exit signs are turned off etc) and Bane emerges from the back of the stage. We only see his legs and torso (4 legs) but it's all very well done. Is that even legal?! Sounds like an OHS nightmare. I've seen it happen elsewhere. I think it was a production of Black Comedy. The theatre posted someone at each door and refused to allow anyone to enter the auditorium while the lights were off, and I assume there were people inside who could raise the alarm if something happened.
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Post by itis2l84u on Jun 9, 2016 6:45:31 GMT
Sorry this is so random, I'm just wondering for those who've been to the show if the programme has any headshots or cast bios in it. I haven't been able to find anything like it yet. I'm particularly interested in Cristina Fray's potential headshot and bio. Also, does Hugo just not exist in this play? It sounds like no one mentions him at all from what I've read here.
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Post by emilyrose on Jun 9, 2016 7:21:03 GMT
JK Rowling came up with the story along with Jack Thorne and John Tiffany but the actual script is Jack Thorne I've read that they came up with the idea with JK's blessing and she gave them freedom to do what they wanted within the world she created. But it was their ideas and plot.
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Post by poster J on Jun 9, 2016 8:07:42 GMT
JK Rowling came up with the story along with Jack Thorne and John Tiffany but the actual script is Jack Thorne I've read that they came up with the idea with JK's blessing and she gave them freedom to do what they wanted within the world she created. But it was their ideas and plot. She worked with them though, it wasn't just them. And there'd be no play at all if she hadn't written the books!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 8:54:27 GMT
Sorry this is so random, I'm just wondering for those who've been to the show if the programme has any headshots or cast bios in it. I haven't been able to find anything like it yet. I'm particularly interested in Cristina Fray's potential headshot and bio. Also, does Hugo just not exist in this play? It sounds like no one mentions him at all from what I've read here. It's a gorgeously put-togther programme. Similar to the Kenneth Brannagh Season programmes. Sturdy. All the cast have had new headshots taken for the production, I assume by the same photographer, as they are identical. I cannot wait to see what happens tonight. I've been discussing with my partner about what could possibly happen!
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Post by poster J on Jun 9, 2016 11:47:29 GMT
She worked with them though, it wasn't just them. And there'd be no play at all if she hadn't written the books! That's not quite right. The programme confirms that JKR had already thought about what would happen next and that these ideas form the play. I don't doubt the other 2 didn't contribute heavily, but there's no way JKR let them have free reign: she's far too protective of her work. Plus JKR confirmed on Oprah around 2010 that she could easily write books 8, 9 and 10 because she had the ideas in place. When book 7 was published, she did a documentary during which she outlined what a lot of characters would be doing after book 7 and she has stayed true to that. I'd love to know what the original pitch was though that convinced her to work on a sequel. That's what I was saying, that she was involved, so not sure why you're saying that's not quite right? She's released a lot of information on her post-DH canon over the years.
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Post by Jon on Jun 9, 2016 13:31:44 GMT
JK Rowling's clearly still loves writing about the wizarding world hence why she's released spin-off materials like Beedle the Bard, Quidditch through the Ages and the upcoming Fantastic Beasts films which IIRC she was approached by Warner Bros to see if she thought it was a good idea and then ended up writing the screenplay.
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Post by idinafanzel on Jun 9, 2016 14:29:41 GMT
SPOILER GUESS
From reading the program and how the Patils are in the glossary. I'm.expecting Bellatrix to pop up tonight with her clearly mentioned there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 15:38:52 GMT
The Stage are reporting that the Owls have been dropped. A real shame as it was a "oh wow" moment. But I guess they're just too unpredictable!
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Post by dippy on Jun 9, 2016 15:51:40 GMT
If that's the case that is sad, it was a beautiful moment even if it did distract me because of the kerfuffle in the dress circle to try and catch it. I wonder if the signs about live animals will still be up in the theatre tonight (assuming owls were the only live animals). Who knows, maybe we'll be seeing a snake.
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Post by emilyrose on Jun 9, 2016 17:06:50 GMT
She worked with them though, it wasn't just them. And there'd be no play at all if she hadn't written the books! That's not quite right. The programme confirms that JKR had already thought about what would happen next and that these ideas form the play. I don't doubt the other 2 didn't contribute heavily, but there's no way JKR let them have free reign: she's far too protective of her work. Plus JKR confirmed on Oprah around 2010 that she could easily write books 8, 9 and 10 because she had the ideas in place. When book 7 was published, she did a documentary during which she outlined what a lot of characters would be doing after book 7 and she has stayed true to that. I'd love to know what the original pitch was though that convinced her to work on a sequel. They didn't contribute heavily, JKR contributed, they wrote the bulk of it, read what they have to say. She gave extensive input, but they wrote it. www.nytimes.com/2016/06/06/theater/why-jk-rowling-endorsed-harry-potter-and-the-cursed-child-for-the-stage.htmlOf course there would be no play without JKR giving them permission and allowing this, but she was the one who assisted them, not the other way around.
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Post by alison on Jun 9, 2016 20:01:56 GMT
My mind is melting. The dementors are stunning, as is the patronus we got to see. Noma is easily my favourite of the principals, she just is Hermione.
There's another prophecy. I'm not sure I like the wording of it. We'll see where we go from here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 21:40:40 GMT
Whoosh
Whoosh!!!
Excellent
EXCELLENT
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Post by demelza on Jun 9, 2016 21:47:07 GMT
I saw on tumblr that Snape is in part two??? Can someone who was there tonight confirm?
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Post by dippy on Jun 9, 2016 22:02:43 GMT
I saw on tumblr that Snape is in part two??? Can someone who was there tonight confirm? He is in it.
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