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Post by emicardiff on Jun 3, 2016 14:24:26 GMT
If I don't secure a job/temp work after my contract ends next week and (god forbid) I end up having to claim any kind of jobseekers I'm dreading the conversations I'll end up having with them...
But as one who also has educated University students I 100% agree with the comments above-I would encourage many, many of those I taught to pursue more vocational things for the sake of careers. And I really hope we see a shift towards more of that otherwise things will only get worse.
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Post by Snciole on Jun 3, 2016 14:27:01 GMT
I think what has put me off ever volunteering is the feeling I will get herded like cattle and not be treated particularly well. I think if people are fed or given some other perk they will volunteer happily and just see it as a bit of fun with no commitment.
The moment volunteering feels like a job and people are pressured into giving their time then there needs to be boundaries set. I hope BECTU (I am a member as I am an occasional supporting artist) put some pressure on YMBBT to at least look at what they offer volunteers and interns financially.
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 3, 2016 14:30:47 GMT
I think a substantial part of the problem with employment these days is that management have no loyalty to their staff, expect staff to have no loyalty to their employers, and generally treat employees as expendable resources. The result is that they anticipate that everyone will move on fairly quickly, and see no point in training someone up only for a different company to reap the benefit of that training. Everyone is hired on the basis of the skills they have at the time of the interview, and there's simply no place for anyone looking to learn and settle in to a company for an extended period.
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Post by emicardiff on Jun 3, 2016 14:35:53 GMT
I think what has put me off ever volunteering is the feeling I will get herded like cattle and not be treated particularly well. I think if people are fed or given some other perk they will volunteer happily and just see it as a bit of fun with no commitment. The moment volunteering feels like a job and people are pressured into giving their time then there needs to be boundaries set. I hope BECTU (I am a member as I am an occasional supporting artist) put some pressure on YMBBT to at least look at what they offer volunteers and interns financially. Totally agree. I used to be a volunteer coordinator for a charity and it was always really important to me that people were a) treated with respect and valued no matter what they were doing. b) given something for their time even if it was just tea and biscuits! and I think (hope) everyone was happy with that.
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Post by londonmzfitz on Jun 3, 2016 14:44:32 GMT
Always a meal at YMBBT for the volunteers between "shifts", with fruit or whatever. And the end of evening entertainment was worth sticking around for on occasions.
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Post by Flim Flam on Jun 3, 2016 14:54:58 GMT
And don't forget the copious Haribo londonmfitz! Its a shame we didn't cross paths- or maybe we did, but didn't realise the Theatreboard connection.
Badges, we need badges!
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Post by emicardiff on Jun 7, 2016 7:11:52 GMT
Argh, really how many times on this thread do I (and others) have to state: we aren't talking about volunteering at the performances, but the unpaid office based jobs that require a large time commitment with zero compensation.
(But hey maybe they give you harbio in the office too, that makes up for not making a living wage)
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Post by kathryn on Jun 7, 2016 9:53:07 GMT
Man/woman cannot live on Haribo alone.....
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Post by Baemax on Jun 7, 2016 9:55:19 GMT
Well, that depends. Are we talking Starmix or Tangfastics here?
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Post by The Matthew on Jun 7, 2016 10:04:47 GMT
Man/woman cannot live on Haribo alone..... For a couple of days, they can.
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Post by emicardiff on Jun 7, 2016 10:06:45 GMT
In fairness a friend and I gave a good go of living on Haribo while on holiday recently. In case you were curious, copious amounts of Haribo, high altitude and excitement over being on a Sound of Music tour makes one a bit loopy...
But I digress....
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 7, 2016 12:14:06 GMT
Any exploitation is wrong, period.
The odious Mike Ashley owner of Sports Direct is giving evidence in the house of commons as we speak, he made his money by exploiting people with zero hour contracts, these contracts are used a lot by theatres.
Fringe theatres very often don't pay their cast and give them a percentage, which they never make money to give them a percentage, if lucky travel might be reimbursed, so really this is an intern scheme for actors, I don't agree with this, but me not going to fringe will not help.
I agree with interns being wrong and used to fulfil tasks, where they would otherwise need to pay someone. These days with even more pressure to have a reasonable income, what with: paying back student loans, provisions for a pension, maybe a car loan too, then it would be nice to get a mortgage at some point, this all on top of day to day living and god forbid a ticket to the theatre.
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Post by emicardiff on Jun 7, 2016 13:24:45 GMT
In case you were curious, copious amounts of Haribo, high altitude and excitement over being on a Sound of Music tour makes one a bit loopy... Especially as she was on holiday in Snowdonia. "These don't look like Alpine goats" "They're sheep..."
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Post by emicardiff on Jun 7, 2016 13:29:05 GMT
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