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Post by stevemar on Mar 17, 2022 11:53:29 GMT
Reviews are out and they're slightly less enthusiastic than people here, most critics seem to have given it 3 or 4 stars Of course reviews do still help. They have on Instagram highlighted 5 stars Financial Times, 4 stars - Evening Standard, Time Out, iNews, Independent, Whats on Stage, Arts Desk. The quote from the Times “A Seriously Hot Ticket” doesn’t have stars next to it. Having checked their 2 star review, the quote doesn’t come from there, so presumably some seriously selective marketing from an article or elsewhere. Anyhow, I’m looking forward to it and will make my own mind up.
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Post by marob on Mar 17, 2022 14:13:18 GMT
Reviews are out and they're slightly less enthusiastic than people here, most critics seem to have given it 3 or 4 stars Of course reviews do still help. They have on Instagram highlighted 5 stars Financial Times, 4 stars - Evening Standard, Time Out, iNews, Independent, Whats on Stage, Arts Desk. The quote from the Times “A Seriously Hot Ticket” doesn’t have stars next to it. Having checked their 2 star review, the quote doesn’t come from there, so presumably some seriously selective marketing from an article or elsewhere. Anyhow, I’m looking forward to it and will make my own mind up. Just had a Google, it’s from a preview of shows to see in London in 2022 that was published on Times Tickets back in January. “This is a seriously hot ticket, and could be one of the best West End shows of the season.” So yeah, just a little bit iffy to use that as if it was a quote from a review.
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Post by princeton on Mar 17, 2022 14:43:35 GMT
It's just so unnecessary. They've enough good reviews and pull out quotes from reviews without doing this - and it's not, given that the run is well on its way to being sold out, as though they need to misrepresent things in order to move tickets. I suspect it's because the Times response is considered particularly important to potential US investors. It also explains why they've posted several extracts from the Variety review in a separate Instagram post.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 17, 2022 18:29:31 GMT
"We’re just going round in circles", W says at a certain point, and for me it's a perfect description of the play. It's pleasant enough but I felt it didn't have much to say about anything. I don't necessarily agree that it's dated, since John is not really worried about labels and the only dated opinions come from the only "dated" character. I thought it took it a while to find its footing and it didn't really work until W shows up: the long opening scene between John and M was a bit clunky, partly because of the writing and party because I didn't see much chemistry between Jonathan Bailey and Taron Egerton.
It's true that JB is not doing anything that we haven't seen him do before in Company or Crashing, but he does it so well. I was less enamoured with Egerton, I thought he lacked depth and couldn't stop thinking about what a wonder Andrew Scott must have been in the part. Jade Anouka and Phil Daniels both very good.
I hated the "choreography" and thought the whole direction was a bit heavy-handed in the first part of the play, although I really liked John and W's sex scene. Personally I didn't think time flew by and I kinda felt the 105 minutes. I warmed up to it as it went along, but I was pretty bored at the beginning - although maybe I was just distracted by a patron's sh*tty conversation with an usher right before the show.
On the whole, I enjoyed it but I'm glad I paid only 20£ for its (row J of the circle, an absolute bargain). Standing ovation at the end, but of those standing ovations that end as soon as the cast leaves the stage.
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Post by jojo on Mar 19, 2022 10:53:33 GMT
It's just so unnecessary. They've enough good reviews and pull out quotes from reviews without doing this - and it's not, given that the run is well on its way to being sold out, as though they need to misrepresent things in order to move tickets. I suspect it's because the Times response is considered particularly important to potential US investors. It also explains why they've posted several extracts from the Variety review in a separate Instagram post. I can't remember what it was, or even where I read it, but something I read made me think that they are considering a transfer to Broadway, and if so there would be an incentive to make a show that's effectively sold out appear to be a 'queue around the block for tickets' one. But it still feels like a mistake when there is enough legitimate praise for the marketing people to work with.
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Post by mjh on Mar 19, 2022 17:44:49 GMT
Taron was out for the matinee today - no idea for tonight.
Joel Harper Jackson was good as M though.
Agree with others saying it’s quite dated.
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Post by ppp on Mar 19, 2022 18:12:42 GMT
Taron was out matinee but understudy was great. (Eventhough I came to see Taron from out of country) Play is outdated but I didn’t mind it as much as I would of thought . Bailey was great. Not sure if I was fan of some of the movements. Also FYI, the leg room is horrid for a play with no intermission
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Post by starlight92 on Mar 19, 2022 18:46:25 GMT
I was at the matinee too and really enjoyed it, despite the constant whispering from people in my row! Bit disappointed not to have seen Taron but Joel was really good.
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Post by theatrefan2018 on Mar 19, 2022 23:13:17 GMT
Taron was out at tonight's evening performance (March 19). Joel was fine. The person selling programmes said he was ill today.
The theatre was mostly full - I counted only about 8 empty seats from the rear stalls. Two separate couples left during the show (about 1/4 and 1/2 through).
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Post by distantcousin on Mar 21, 2022 14:13:08 GMT
I find it hilarious that the BBC were too po-faced to reveal the name of the play on The One Show!
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Post by fiyerorocher on Mar 21, 2022 14:20:41 GMT
TodayTix aren't allowed to print it on their bus stop adverts (and I presume other physical posters).
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Post by distantcousin on Mar 22, 2022 11:25:11 GMT
TodayTix aren't allowed to print it on their bus stop adverts (and I presume other physical posters). I find this bizarre. Who decides this? Advertising Standards Authority? Ofcom? It is not even a swear word.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Mar 22, 2022 11:26:38 GMT
TodayTix aren't allowed to print it on their bus stop adverts (and I presume other physical posters). I find this bizarre. Who decides this? Advertising Standards Authority? Ofcom? It is not even a swear word. Not sure, but the ad was definitely worded along the lines of 'it's a shame we're not allowed to print the title on the posters', as if it wasn't their own decision
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Post by Deal J on Mar 22, 2022 12:06:35 GMT
According to this list Ofcom have rated the word as “strong” in their order of offensiveness. I’m sure it doesn’t need saying, but that list is full of NSFW language!
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Post by jojo on Mar 22, 2022 12:31:39 GMT
That list seems a bit odd to me, but I expect there's a lot of regional variation, with the usual caveat that mild swearing and non-swearing can be far more offensive if used aggressively or to discriminate than proper swearing used affectionately, or as punctuation.
The production team have taken full advantage of the naughtiness of the term 'cock' to promote the show, and if I'm being extra cynical, being offended/amused because adverts or the tv are treating it as the rude word it's supposed to be, is just another promotional tactic.
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Post by marob on Mar 22, 2022 18:31:45 GMT
Are bus stop ads covered by TFL? There was something a few years ago where a poster for My Night With Reg wasn’t allowed to be used on the Underground because it featured Lewis Reeves’ bum, TFL made them use a covered up version.
They seem to be quite keen to censor anything even vaguely “controversial” yet are quite happy to have ads encouraging you to blow your life savings on various investment schemes.
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Post by apubleed on Mar 22, 2022 20:10:51 GMT
Will they refund or exchange if Taron is out?
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Post by fiyerorocher on Mar 23, 2022 8:06:57 GMT
Will they refund or exchange if Taron is out? Almost definitely not
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Post by A.Ham on Mar 23, 2022 11:15:13 GMT
I’m going tomorrow so have everything crossed!
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Post by A.Ham on Mar 23, 2022 16:51:11 GMT
Taron’s got Covid. So off until next week. The show’s Twitter account says M will be played by Joel Harper-Jackson in the meantime. Guess I shouldn’t feel too disappointed, I did manage to see Jessie Buckley after all… 🤣
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Post by apubleed on Mar 23, 2022 19:06:37 GMT
They are actually offering exchanges. Nice.
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Post by A.Ham on Mar 23, 2022 19:30:49 GMT
They are actually offering exchanges. Nice. Now I wonder if I should try and go next month?! Good to see they’re ‘doing the right thing’ even if technically they don’t have to.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Mar 23, 2022 19:56:25 GMT
Wow, the poor understudy. Imagine going on part way through the first show and preventing a cancellation, and they're still offering people exchanges if you're on.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 23, 2022 21:22:18 GMT
Wow, the poor understudy. Imagine going on part way through the first show and preventing a cancellation, and they're still offering people exchanges if you're on. And imagine how sad he must have been when he realized that he's getting paid a fraction of Taron's salary!
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Post by apubleed on Mar 23, 2022 22:25:39 GMT
Wow, the poor understudy. Imagine going on part way through the first show and preventing a cancellation, and they're still offering people exchanges if you're on. And imagine how sad he must have been when he realized that he's getting paid a fraction of Taron's salary! I don’t think he’d be sad. They aren’t doing the same job - Taron is selling tickets based on his name AND performing a role. The understudy is just performing the role.
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Post by sph on Mar 23, 2022 22:34:20 GMT
I think if you're understudying a "star name" you know that people aren't going to be overly enthused that you're on. It's a tough job but that's the gig.
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Post by dillan on Mar 23, 2022 22:42:03 GMT
"We’re just going round in circles", W says at a certain point, and for me it's a perfect description of the play. It's pleasant enough but I felt it didn't have much to say about anything. I don't necessarily agree that it's dated, since John is not really worried about labels and the only dated opinions come from the only "dated" character. I thought it took it a while to find its footing and it didn't really work until W shows up: the long opening scene between John and M was a bit clunky, partly because of the writing and party because I didn't see much chemistry between Jonathan Bailey and Taron Egerton. It's true that JB is not doing anything that we haven't seen him do before in Company or Crashing, but he does it so well. I was less enamoured with Egerton, I thought he lacked depth and couldn't stop thinking about what a wonder Andrew Scott must have been in the part. Jade Anouka and Phil Daniels both very good. I hated the "choreography" and thought the whole direction was a bit heavy-handed in the first part of the play, although I really liked John and W's sex scene. Personally I didn't think time flew by and I kinda felt the 105 minutes. I warmed up to it as it went along, but I was pretty bored at the beginning - although maybe I was just distracted by a patron's sh*tty conversation with an usher right before the show. On the whole, I enjoyed it but I'm glad I paid only 20£ for its (row J of the circle, an absolute bargain). Standing ovation at the end, but of those standing ovations that end as soon as the cast leaves the stage. *** I saw this last Wednesday and pretty much feel the exact same way as you - at times I really thought it was dated and I hated the fact that they didn't use labels such as 'bi' or 'queer' etc. I felt like John's character could only be gay or straight and that was it. I agree that the sex scene was hilarious and cleverly done. The acting, however, IMO was a 10/10 from all 4 leads and worth a visit just for that.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 23, 2022 23:03:42 GMT
And imagine how sad he must have been when he realized that he's getting paid a fraction of Taron's salary! I don’t think he’d be sad. They aren’t doing the same job - Taron is selling tickets based on his name AND performing a role. The understudy is just performing the role. Yeah, I was sarcastic
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 23, 2022 23:06:04 GMT
"We’re just going round in circles", W says at a certain point, and for me it's a perfect description of the play. It's pleasant enough but I felt it didn't have much to say about anything. I don't necessarily agree that it's dated, since John is not really worried about labels and the only dated opinions come from the only "dated" character. I thought it took it a while to find its footing and it didn't really work until W shows up: the long opening scene between John and M was a bit clunky, partly because of the writing and party because I didn't see much chemistry between Jonathan Bailey and Taron Egerton. It's true that JB is not doing anything that we haven't seen him do before in Company or Crashing, but he does it so well. I was less enamoured with Egerton, I thought he lacked depth and couldn't stop thinking about what a wonder Andrew Scott must have been in the part. Jade Anouka and Phil Daniels both very good. I hated the "choreography" and thought the whole direction was a bit heavy-handed in the first part of the play, although I really liked John and W's sex scene. Personally I didn't think time flew by and I kinda felt the 105 minutes. I warmed up to it as it went along, but I was pretty bored at the beginning - although maybe I was just distracted by a patron's sh*tty conversation with an usher right before the show. On the whole, I enjoyed it but I'm glad I paid only 20£ for its (row J of the circle, an absolute bargain). Standing ovation at the end, but of those standing ovations that end as soon as the cast leaves the stage. *** I saw this last Wednesday and pretty much feel the exact same way as you - at times I really thought it was dated and I hated the fact that they didn't use labels such as 'bi' or 'queer' etc. I felt like John's character could only be gay or straight and that was it. I noticed that Mike Bartlett has revised the script to throw in the word 'pansexual', but I can't really say that added much!
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Post by dlevi on Mar 24, 2022 12:56:29 GMT
I went last night and the news that Taron was out was kept pretty well hidden. There was a slip in the programme £5 which said At this performance the role of M will be played by Joel Harper- Jackson and there was a sign posted halfway down the stairs to the stalls saying the same thing - So one had to know that Taron's role was M. For the prices they are charging they should show a bit more class. Mr Harper-Jackson did a fine job but the fact is that I was there to see two hot male stars and I didn't. I was with a group of people and we discussed asking for a refund but frankly it took too long to coordinate the first time - it was going to be impossible to do it "on the fly" 10 minutes before curtain.
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