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Post by paulbrownsey on Jun 13, 2019 18:55:16 GMT
Nothing to do with being British. He was simply a rude old silly self important man in any nationality. So sorry you had to put up with that. Opera standings as been said much less common that musicals or v serious plays. The self-important people are the ones who stand to applaud and thereby treat the people in the seats behind with contempt, forcing them to stand as well if they want to see the bows/finale. Standing ovations were, unfortunately, encouraged on those TV talent shows because it was thought to be 'good television' to see a whole audience rising to their feet.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Jun 13, 2019 18:57:08 GMT
People giving a standing ovation doesnβt overly bother me, itβs the people at the end whooping and whistling between their fingers, that I have a problem with - why do people feel the need to do that, especially the latter as it goes right through my head? The shriekers are just as inconsiderate as they standing-ovationers. In both cases, they are thinking only of demonstrating their own feelings and not giving a damn about the members of the audience around them or behind them.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Jun 13, 2019 18:59:37 GMT
There's nothing rude about a standing ovation. It's a show of appreciation. You may be blocking people behind you but from what? The show's over, people have come out to bow, nothing else is actually happening or am I missing something? Sometimes they do those horrible reprises of a number from the show but really if you're not standing up you probably aren't that bothered. Mid show ovations are still thankfully rare but would block people, usually a more isolated thing though? The fact that ovations are now de rigueur is a separate issue! They ARE rude, in that they show no consideration for the people behind but force them to stand, too, if they want to see the performers taking their bows. And sometimes the poor people behind have to stand, too, to see the finale. You're awfully selfish, aren't you? And what you you say about "nothing else...actually happening" is just self-serving flannel to cover your own selfishness.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Jun 13, 2019 19:00:44 GMT
I tend to save it for spectacular performances, however, I do find myself reluctantly standing if people have done so in front of me just so Iβm not aimlessly looking at their bottoms and can see whatβs happening on the stage. Well, yes. Standing-ovationers are so selfish with their 'look at me applauding' thing.
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Post by paulbrownsey on Jun 13, 2019 19:02:10 GMT
Oh please don't get certain people started on this again, I feel like it is a topic that has been done to death on various threads here... Anyway, my view on it is simple - if you feel the show is worthy of a standing ovation in your personal opinion, then give one if you want to. If you don't, then don't. Whether a show "warrants" that sort of reaction is and always will be entirely subjective and what everyone else around you feels about the show is irrelevant - plenty of people stood when I saw Company but I didn't overly like the production, so I didn't. My prerogative. The people sitting beside me didn't stand at A German Life, I did. Their prerogative and mine! It's nothing more complicated than that, and there's certainly no "should" involved, unless you choose to make it that. If people feel they have to stand up, that's nothing more than a personal choice on their part, no-one is forcing them to do it. "if you feel the show is worthy of a standing ovation in your personal opinion, then give one if you want to. " Consideration for other people--the people behind you--should obviously play no part.
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Post by andrew on Jun 13, 2019 19:21:51 GMT
To anyone that will visit this thread:
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Post by xanady on Jun 13, 2019 19:25:20 GMT
My opinion on this is............nah,Iβll visit the never-ending marketing/casting debate on the 200 pages of the Waitress thread instead...much less stressful lol
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Post by poster J on Jun 13, 2019 21:04:51 GMT
Is there a way to put someone on ignore on the mobile version of the forum or do I have to log in on a desktop? Should have done it ages ago but I foolishly assumed the last round of tiresome spamming on the subject was the end of it all...
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jun 13, 2019 23:25:19 GMT
Having seen the Bridge's Midsummer Night's Dream this evening I will no longer be giving standing ovations.
Instead I will be throwing giant silver beach balls at the cast whilst dancing furiously.
It's theatre, I don't make the rules.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 14, 2019 6:58:00 GMT
Is there a way to put someone on ignore on the mobile version of the forum or do I have to log in on a desktop? Should have done it ages ago but I foolishly assumed the last round of tiresome spamming on the subject was the end of it all... You have to use the desktop version. Profile/Edit Profile/Privacy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 9:59:54 GMT
If you don't have access to a PC, you can scroll to the bottom of the mobile version of the forum and tap on the word Desktop on the black bar at the bottom, that will give you the desktop version right there on your phone. You'll probably need to zoom in a lot but it's workable, and then you can scroll to the bottom and switch back to the Mobile Version easily enough once you're done.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 14, 2019 13:07:57 GMT
The shriekers are just as inconsiderate Oh, those who whoop are way worse - particularly mid-show after a song. Or whooping at some ridiculous and pointless βriffingβ thereby encouraging the riffer to do it even more π‘
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Post by joem on Jun 14, 2019 13:47:03 GMT
My last standing ovation was probably for Maggie Smith but I justified that as being a tribute to her great career rather than her very good performance in a fairly average play.
I may have stood 10 times or so in the past 40 years.
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Post by xanady on Jun 14, 2019 18:10:25 GMT
Being very tall and often squashed into impossible angles with zero leg room,I try to go for as many SOβs per show as possible.Ooooh,me poor knees...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 14, 2019 19:18:37 GMT
I like to get my 6β3 frame up on my feet ASAP, and deffo before the final note is played. And quite often will save time by swinging my big flappy coat around me, extravagantly getting my arms into it, successfully, blocking the view of entire swathes of people behind me. Letβs face it if theyβre THAT bothered about seeing the finale theyβll get up, or just peer round me. I donβt see a problem π (Shhh donβt tell paulbrownsey π€«)
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 15, 2019 15:04:14 GMT
Surely nobody can peer round you, BurlyBeaR? I, on the other hand, am both tall and slender, and therefore much easier to see around. π
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Post by ptwest on Jun 15, 2019 15:24:40 GMT
6' 6" and broad. Will bring a periscope next time to provide the person behind with a clear view of the bows.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 15, 2019 15:41:46 GMT
Perhaps we three could plan a trip together, Park ourselves in front of π π΅ who is is 4β6β? π
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 15, 2019 15:47:53 GMT
Perhaps we three could plan a trip together, Park ourselves in front of π π΅ who is is 4β6β? π As long as I don't have to sit in the middle. I'd be even thinner by the finale!
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Post by ptwest on Jun 15, 2019 15:53:28 GMT
Perhaps we three could plan a trip together, Park ourselves in front of π π΅ who is is 4β6β? π We'd need to agree a game plan though. Standing just at the end? Or mid performance? In which case, how much riffery is required?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 15, 2019 20:29:57 GMT
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Post by theatreian on Jun 15, 2019 22:58:33 GMT
Gave a few ovations tonight sat the Woman to Woman concert in Birmingham. The brilliant concert featured Beverley Craven, Judie Tzuke and Julia Fordham. Incredible performances from 3 class acts.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Jun 15, 2019 23:00:57 GMT
Gave a standing ovation at Fiddler earlier because the people in front did and I wanted to see the bows. Don't think I would've otherwise but I didn't mind too much since I still really enjoyed it, just didn't think it was enough for me to want to leap out of my seat.
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Post by missthelma on Jun 16, 2019 10:38:56 GMT
Perhaps we three could plan a trip together, Park ourselves in front of π π΅ who is is 4β6β? π We'd need to agree a game plan though. Standing just at the end? Or mid performance? In which case, how much riffery is required? Please can I have an invite too? I promise to dress like Taylor Mac at the Tony awards and fidget throughout to cause maximum disruption to those behind.
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Post by Tibidabo on Jun 16, 2019 10:44:16 GMT
Feeling very left out of this thread, seeing as no one would notice even if I did stand up.π«
As far as I'm concerned, if you're in front of me, even if you're sitting down YOU'RE IN MY BLODDY WAY!π
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Post by hannechalk on Jun 16, 2019 10:56:33 GMT
If I have thoroughly enjoyed a show, I will give a standing ovation. If I haven't, I won't and I stay seated, even if everyone else is on their feet.
Casts generally enjoy standing ovations as an appreciation of the work they put in, and regularly tweet about them. If you find standing ovations rude, because you want to see a person bow, there is something wrong with you, in my humble opinion.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 16, 2019 11:01:06 GMT
I always wonder if it annoys cast members when audiences are clapping in time to the music instead of applauding their bows βfreestyleβ.
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Post by missthelma on Jun 16, 2019 11:11:06 GMT
Does anyone else have a refrain of Patti LuPone or Elaine Stritch going through their head?
'Everybody Rise, Riiiiiiiiiise, Rise'
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 16, 2019 12:12:30 GMT
I always wonder if it annoys cast members when audiences are clapping in time to the music instead of applauding their bows βfreestyleβ. Never mind the cast, it annoys me, and I'm far more important than they are. π There was a tendency for it to happen at 42nd Street when the chorus boys and girls were taking their bows. As a matter of principle, I always went 'freestyle', which is generally how I live my life!
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Jun 16, 2019 14:15:56 GMT
I always wonder if it annoys cast members when audiences are clapping in time to the music instead of applauding their bows βfreestyleβ. Never mind the cast, it annoys me, and I'm far more important than they are. π There was a tendency for it to happen at 42nd Street when the chorus boys and girls were taking their bows. As a matter of principle, I always went 'freestyle', which is generally how I live my life! Because I'm usually in the front row and 6' tall I only stand if I can see those behind and around me have done so too. I do agree about the applause. If it's in time with music, to me it isn't applauding the individual performers. I always try to clap extra hard if I feel somebody from the cast has particularly excelled
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