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Post by Being Alive on Mar 17, 2021 11:25:50 GMT
It's great that he learnt to play the trumpet (I hadn't actually clocked that) and obviously huge credit with everything going on, but I just didn't find the film worked or came together in any way at all. To me, it felt like they were all giving stage performances on film (like, the performances all felt enormous). Both Chadwick and Viola are excellent talents but I sat there going 'this is just boring and should be more exciting'.
I get that I'm in the minority on this as lots of other people have enjoyed it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 11:37:24 GMT
Intriguing. I wonder if that's a product of the screenplay being developed from the stage play and film direction channelling that energy.
Likewise, I'm sure many of the films I didn't enjoy others raved about, Mank included.
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 17, 2021 11:55:52 GMT
Totally.
Really was blown away by Nomadland. I had high expectations with all the press around it, but it really knocked me out. And it's shot so beautifully too.
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Mar 20, 2021 12:47:03 GMT
Post by lynette on Mar 20, 2021 12:47:03 GMT
Just read that they want the actors to turn up in person and no zooms allowed. Isn’t that a bit counter productive. Surely better to have a winner express delight live on a zoom than someone accept in his or her place with a dim smile? And you can rely on actors to make a bit of an ‘entrance’ even on a zoom.
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Post by poster J on Mar 20, 2021 13:29:23 GMT
A lot of the Zoom appearances at the other awards shows have been quite funny.
I think it's pretty stupid of the Oscars to try to force people to turn up in person. It is still a pandemic, being nominated for an award that you really have no reason to pick up in person isn't a good enough excuse for travelling in my book.
I expect some nominees who don't live in LA just won't bother. Amanda Seyfried lives in New York and recently had a baby, I can't imagine she will want to travel. Vanessa Kirby lives in London and I'm sure she isn't the only one who is outside America at the minute and might then get hit with quarantine requirements, and anyone currently working will probably be in a secure production bubble (and may already have quarantined) so may not be allowed to attend.
Seems like a decision that will get the Academy some bad publicity and probably backfire.
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Mar 20, 2021 18:03:11 GMT
Post by lynette on Mar 20, 2021 18:03:11 GMT
It’s like they can’t be bothered to do the techie work. They could have made something really good with people in their local parks cavorting etc. And if there are any pro bubbles then that would have been fun to see and good publicity. Oh well.
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Mar 20, 2021 18:48:46 GMT
Post by peggs on Mar 20, 2021 18:48:46 GMT
And they've stipulated people must dress up, no accepting via zoom in your pjs with your dog like other awards have done which frankly seemed quite charming.
Yeah seems unwise to open themselves up to criticism of people travelling unnecessarily.
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Post by talkingheads on Mar 21, 2021 10:54:35 GMT
To be honest I hope people refuse to travel and the Oscars end up looking embarrassed. What a stupid stipulation, making people travel during a pandemic, especially when the technology is there. Also it opens us up to even more 'one rule for the rich and famous, another for us plebs who cannot travel'.
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Post by peggs on Mar 21, 2021 16:05:12 GMT
To be honest I hope people refuse to travel and the Oscars end up looking embarrassed. What a stupid stipulation, making people travel during a pandemic, especially when the technology is there. Also it opens us up to even more 'one rule for the rich and famous, another for us plebs who cannot travel'. I rather agree. I'm rather tired of being told I should laud someone for wearing the same suit to more than one award as a great saving to the environment or whatever when they probably came on a private plane etc etc.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 21, 2021 21:21:26 GMT
To be honest I hope people refuse to travel and the Oscars end up looking embarrassed. What a stupid stipulation, making people travel during a pandemic, especially when the technology is there. Also it opens us up to even more 'one rule for the rich and famous, another for us plebs who cannot travel'. I rather agree. I'm rather tired of being told I should laud someone for wearing the same suit to more than one award as a great saving to the environment or whatever when they probably came on a private plane etc etc. Yeah a bunch of rich people gathering to celebrate themselves while indulging in extravagance might have passed for escapism in the public's opinion before, but right now it's not good optics and I don't know why they'd want to encourage that kind of narrative after the backlash to stuff like the imagine song. They're essentially rubbing the fact that they've mostly been able to work, and in any case could easily have survived without work, in the face of millions who potentially haven't been working for a year or who have been slaving away every day putting themselves at risk. I should think they'd want to encourage the celebrities to look a little more modest and, you know, not totally detached from reality right now and this rule seems to go completely against that, but I suppose without the red carpets and the in-person speeches and performances what else is the Oscars but a bunch of colleagues awarding each other for a job well done that the public has no real stake in. Or maybe they are in fact just so detached that they don't realise how bad this will look.
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Mar 22, 2021 7:11:06 GMT
Post by lynette on Mar 22, 2021 7:11:06 GMT
What you said at the end there...so detached.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 17:11:47 GMT
I rather agree. I'm rather tired of being told I should laud someone for wearing the same suit to more than one award as a great saving to the environment or whatever when they probably came on a private plane etc etc. Yeah a bunch of rich people gathering to celebrate themselves while indulging in extravagance might have passed for escapism in the public's opinion before, but right now it's not good optics and I don't know why they'd want to encourage that kind of narrative after the backlash to stuff like the imagine song. They're essentially rubbing the fact that they've mostly been able to work, and in any case could easily have survived without work, in the face of millions who potentially haven't been working for a year or who have been slaving away every day putting themselves at risk. I should think they'd want to encourage the celebrities to look a little more modest and, you know, not totally detached from reality right now and this rule seems to go completely against that, but I suppose without the red carpets and the in-person speeches and performances what else is the Oscars but a bunch of colleagues awarding each other for a job well done that the public has no real stake in. Or maybe they are in fact just so detached that they don't realise how bad this will look. They literally have no idea. There was a 'round table' (round camera?) interview with some of the actresses (Hollywood Reporter) - Glenn Close and Kate Winslet in particular were so beyond tone deaf in their interviews, I could not believe it. Winslet begging the general public to understand how hard they work (vomit). They have no clue what is going on. I think it would be a greater statement for most of these celebs to not bother attending, and having their awards accepted for them on their behalf. The whole thing is disgusting right at this moment for me anyway, and this is coming from a real awards nut queen.
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Post by poster J on Apr 23, 2021 11:32:04 GMT
New trailers for In the Heights (introduced by Lin-Manuel Miranda) and West Side Story (introduced by Ariana DeBose) are being released during the Oscars broadcast, as part of the show itself.
And they are doing a pre-show with all the Best Original Song nominees performing, and a post-show with winner interviews, each hosted by a couple of lesser known but up and coming stars (including DeBose, Colman Domingo and Andrew Rannells, so Broadway is well represented!).
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Apr 23, 2021 22:59:45 GMT
Post by sfsusan on Apr 23, 2021 22:59:45 GMT
Winslet begging the general public to understand how hard they work (vomit). They have no clue what is going on. This was in answer to a question about public misperceptions about their job. I'm curious as to why it struck you as vomit-worthy.
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Apr 24, 2021 9:20:05 GMT
Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 24, 2021 9:20:05 GMT
Miss Winslet speaks as if we should all be “clapping for actors” at 7pm nightly. The early starts, the long hours (especially if one is working on a low budget film) not to mention the preparation required.
Millions of people do that day in day out and for a pittance in return. Seriously, get over yourself love.
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Apr 24, 2021 23:02:28 GMT
Post by sfsusan on Apr 24, 2021 23:02:28 GMT
I think she might have made her point better and still answered the question without going on and on. I actually thought Glenn Close had more of an attitude, especially calling out the surgeon acquaintance so scornfully. I sure hope he never sees this interview!
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Post by talkingheads on Apr 26, 2021 7:55:23 GMT
There is a lot of controversy over Boseman not winning. I think the Oscars were wrong to hold the award back until the end and make everyone think he would win.
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Post by poster J on Apr 26, 2021 9:05:02 GMT
Boseman should have won. From all I've read, Hopkins gave an excellent performance, but he has won before and there will never be another opportunity to honour Boseman.
Agree the structure was very strange - Best Picture should have been last, and Best Director was very early in the evening.
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Apr 26, 2021 9:15:25 GMT
Post by talkingheads on Apr 26, 2021 9:15:25 GMT
Boseman should have won. From all I've read, Hopkins gave an excellent performance, but he has won before and there will never be another opportunity to honour Boseman. Agree the structure was very strange - Best Picture should have been last, and Best Director was very early in the evening. But isn't the fact that Boseman was amongst the very select group of nominated actors honouring him? I don't know the actual criteria they use to determine who gave the best performance.. But it's so tricky. Automatically give it to Boseman and they run the risk of devaluing the award (and I don't mean Boseman's performance wasn't terrific, it was. But all the performances were, that's why they ere nominated). Don't give it to Boseman and they're accused of bias, or being unfair. It's an impossible situation. Maybe Boseman should be honoured by naming a new award or category after him?
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Post by happytobehere on Apr 26, 2021 9:33:34 GMT
Perhaps they could’ve found another way to honour Boseman, maybe create a new award or something. Saying that, without intending to sound heartless, Boseman (whilst a wonderful actor and a very sad loss), probably delivered one of the worst (but still great) performances out of all the nominees. Speaking just from a performance standpoint, I think Yeun, Ahmed, and Hopkins all deserved the award more.
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Post by talkingheads on Apr 26, 2021 9:41:22 GMT
Any other year I'd have given the award to Riz Ahmed. The range of emotions he plays through the film, the terror in his eyes, is astonishing.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 26, 2021 10:26:06 GMT
The death of Boseman is a tragedy for his family and a loss to cinema. But his contribution to film is not so significant as to merit a (new) Oscar in his name.
People get swept up in the emotion of his passing and expectations are raised.
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Post by sph on Apr 26, 2021 11:21:30 GMT
I think it would be unfair for people to direct any anger towards Hopkins, although apparently it's already happening on social media. He clearly didn't expect to win, and was very gracious in his thank you video this morning.
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Post by Roxie on Apr 26, 2021 12:56:35 GMT
I was hoping Oliva Colman would win again, just cos I think she's fantastic! I was also hoping Husavik would win best original song cos I just love it! The performance last night by Molly Sanden, live from Husavik with all the school children in their lopapeysas and the northern lights shining was just incredible!
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 26, 2021 13:56:24 GMT
Right decision for me on Actor - Hopkins in a career-best performance.
I echo what others say about Boseman - he's a good actor, but his contribution to film in the wider sense is not big enough for a new award in his memory. I take nothing away from his performance (which lots have enjoyed) but I'm pleased that the voters were able to separate the tragedy and vote based on performance.
(I'm not trying to start anything with that...)
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Post by jojo on Apr 26, 2021 14:41:25 GMT
Of the nominees for best actor I've only seen Boseman and Ahmed and I thought Ahmed gave the superior performance. However, based on the trailer and subject matter and what I know of Anthony Hopkins, I can easily imagine he'd pull of an incredible performance worthy of the win.
I saw a suggestion that Hopkins won due to a vote split, but my understanding is that the Oscars use a preferential voting system, so that can't be the case.
Emotion does play a role in how people vote, but the Oscar voters seem to know who they like, and it's often people who have won or been nominated before. It was wrong for those organising the Oscars ceremony to leave that category until the end, and I expect the media thought a Boseman win would make a better story and need to take responsibility for hyping that version of events, but actual Oscar voters will have their own views.
As it is, Hopkins is the oldest ever winner of a Best Actor Oscar. In fact, seeing older actors pick up acting awards, especially the women, was a sign of progress in writing interesting parts for older actors IMO.
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Post by kathryn on Apr 27, 2021 23:05:33 GMT
I saw someone say on social media that this year’s ‘secret Oscar ballot’ stories had a bit of a theme of ‘I know Chadwick Boseman is going to win; I am voting for Hopkins because I thought he was really the best but Boseman has it sewn up so it doesn’t matter anyway’’.
Happens that way sometimes.
Clearly the producers thought they’d get to end on an emotional tribute to Chadwick Boseman when he won which is why they changed the order of the awards around.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 28, 2021 8:02:54 GMT
Watched The Father last night. Was quite different to the stage show and a different performance by Hopkins to Pryce in Height of the Storm. Equally as good and used the wonderful music of Ludovico Einaudi
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Apr 28, 2021 20:11:04 GMT
Post by jojo on Apr 28, 2021 20:11:04 GMT
I saw someone say on social media that this year’s ‘secret Oscar ballot’ stories had a bit of a theme of ‘I know Chadwick Boseman is going to win; I am voting for Hopkins because I thought he was really the best but Boseman has it sewn up so it doesn’t matter anyway’’. Happens that way sometimes. Clearly the producers thought they’d get to end on an emotional tribute to Chadwick Boseman when he won which is why they changed the order of the awards around. I think they might have been talking about one of those anonymous voter insights that have become popular. I read one where someone said they expected Boseman to win, but thought Hopkins was better, so were voting for him. The Oscars don't release the positions or votes, so there's no point in giving a consolation vote to someone unless you want them to win. There are lots of things where I might predict someone will win something, whilst not wanting that outcome. It seems to me that Boseman fans are trying to rationalise his loss when it was them that were were so certain it was in the bag. It's incredible to me that the organisers would be so reckless to assume they could predict the outcome, to the point of not caring that the early favourite for the win, and assumed second favourite would be tucked up in bed. If you get a chance to read them, they are simultaneously fascinating and depressing. There are no names attached, but it amazes me that voters are happy to admit to not watching all of the nominated films, or voting for a film because they like someone that's involved. There's become an obsession with judging the success of the show by the live audience figures. The Oscars will remain relevant so long as studios include the line "with Academy Award winner/nominee" on their posters and DVDs. People who can't be bothered watching the whole show will still watch clips online and the results fill newspapers, magazines and the rolling news. It's not an event that exists in order to get ratings for whichever tv network it airs on.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Apr 29, 2021 12:36:09 GMT
I was hoping Oliva Colman would win again, just cos I think she's fantastic! I was also hoping Husavik would win best original song cos I just love it! The performance last night by Molly Sanden, live from Husavik with all the school children in their lopapeysas and the northern lights shining was just incredible! I was rooting for that song too - Fire Saga was just brilliant! Loved her performance too, such a talent. It would be amazing if she could perform at Eurovision next month.
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