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Post by ali973 on Oct 27, 2017 20:14:04 GMT
I'd actually enjoy Kerry playing Florence. You can depend on her to belt flawlessly, and this is is a belting role.
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Oct 27, 2017 20:21:51 GMT
Post by Seriously on Oct 27, 2017 20:21:51 GMT
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Oct 27, 2017 20:23:21 GMT
Post by ali973 on Oct 27, 2017 20:23:21 GMT
Did you read what I said? I said I would like her to play FLORENCE.
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Post by Seriously on Oct 27, 2017 20:45:37 GMT
Did you read what I said? I said I would like her to play FLORENCE. I didn't bother reading your post.
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Oct 27, 2017 21:40:11 GMT
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Post by alece10 on Oct 27, 2017 21:40:11 GMT
Why are people wanting Idina Menzel and Kerry Ellis? They've done it before. Let's have someone new. If it's Idina my friend will refuse to go. She was not brilliant in the RAH concert and looked quite bored throughout. Sang it well though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 21:41:48 GMT
Did you read what I said? I said I would like her to play FLORENCE. I didn't bother reading your post. I’m still chuckling and I first read this half an hour ago...! Kenneth Williams’ face in your avatar is the perfect match for it too! Classic!
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Post by karloscar on Oct 27, 2017 21:47:40 GMT
Never mind an overlooked Svetlana, Siobhan McCarthy was even better as Florence, and made the romance with Anatoly (Tommy Korberg) far more believable than EP ever did.
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Post by wickedgrin on Oct 27, 2017 21:51:39 GMT
Given the current fashion I expect it will be played with no interval, and gender blind casting with two guys playing Florence and Svetlana! It will take the lyrics of "I know him so well" to a whole new level - "wanting far too much for far too long"...."wasn't it good - oh so good".....
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Oct 27, 2017 21:58:10 GMT
Post by ali973 on Oct 27, 2017 21:58:10 GMT
Never mind an overlooked Svetlana, Siobhan McCarthy was even better as Florence, and made the romance with Anatoly (Tommy Korberg) far more believable than EP ever did. Oh? When was this? I wasn't aware she played Florence.
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Post by n1david on Oct 27, 2017 22:33:57 GMT
Given the current fashion I expect it will be played with no interval, and gender blind casting with two guys playing Florence and Svetlana! It will take the lyrics of "I know him so well" to a whole new level - "wanting far too much for far too long"...."wasn't it good - oh so good"..... Been done.... (ok not in a full production). John Barrowman/Daniel Boys on JB’s tour.
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Post by karloscar on Oct 27, 2017 22:53:40 GMT
Siobhan took over from Elaine at the Prince Edward after a year, and her Svetlana Grania Rennihan was third to play Florence, and then Ria Jones I think. They always had a leading lady to hand. Siobhan, Tommy and Michael Howe as Freddie were particularly good together for a short while.
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Oct 28, 2017 5:54:01 GMT
Post by ali973 on Oct 28, 2017 5:54:01 GMT
That's correct- there are a few recordings floating out there with Grania and Ria. I believe Ria was the last one to play Flo in London. Thanks for that, I had no idea she was the first replacement.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 28, 2017 6:52:53 GMT
Thank god we are spared LP’s directing abilities
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Oct 28, 2017 7:21:24 GMT
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Post by danb on Oct 28, 2017 7:21:24 GMT
(Walks across stage balletically)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 7:21:38 GMT
i really think they will need to pull it out the bag casting wise to fill the theatre. chess is no where near as well known as the likes of carousel
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Post by Scswp on Oct 28, 2017 8:04:50 GMT
For the poster who mentioned Kerry Ellis as Florence, I doubt this will be the case. She’s not a big enough name at all IMO. I think the only way she could be cast is if the other roles are cast with bigger names. Kerry has sold out big venues in the past (e.g. Albert Hall) but it’s usually with other people (e.g. Brian May, Josh Groban, Idina Menzel). On her own, she won’t sell anywhere near enough tickets.
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Post by poster J on Oct 28, 2017 9:02:19 GMT
Why are people wanting Idina Menzel and Kerry Ellis? They've done it before. Let's have someone new. If it's Idina my friend will refuse to go. She was not brilliant in the RAH concert and looked quite bored throughout. Sang it well though. I also won't be going if it's Idina, I don't think she sang the RAH version particularly well at all, and the less said about her acting then, the better
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 28, 2017 9:11:35 GMT
For the poster who mentioned Kerry Ellis as Florence, I doubt this will be the case. She’s not a big enough name at all IMO. I think the only way she could be cast is if the other roles are cast with bigger names. Kerry has sold out big venues in the past (e.g. Albert Hall) but it’s usually with other people (e.g. Brian May, Josh Groban, Idina Menzel). On her own, she won’t sell anywhere near enough tickets. Kerry just puts herself about a bit too much to be considered star casting. Let’s face it, she’ll appear in pretty much anything. By the end of this year she’ll have done 4 or 5 different things in Manchester and that’s just the ones I’m aware of. I’m not saying that’s bad, she’s got a great voice and she’s making a living by entertaining people which is wonderful and to be applauded. But it’s getting a bit like “Oh it’s Kerry Ellis... again”.
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Oct 28, 2017 9:31:37 GMT
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Post by shady23 on Oct 28, 2017 9:31:37 GMT
True. I'm a big fan and I used to go to everything. Now I very much pick and choose!
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Oct 28, 2017 9:36:31 GMT
Post by ali973 on Oct 28, 2017 9:36:31 GMT
For the poster who mentioned Kerry Ellis as Florence, I doubt this will be the case. She’s not a big enough name at all IMO. I think the only way she could be cast is if the other roles are cast with bigger names. Kerry has sold out big venues in the past (e.g. Albert Hall) but it’s usually with other people (e.g. Brian May, Josh Groban, Idina Menzel). On her own, she won’t sell anywhere near enough tickets. Agreed. Though I'd like to see her play Florence in this (or any Chess, for that matter), I am aware of the high improbability of her booking this.
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Oct 28, 2017 9:38:50 GMT
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Post by shady23 on Oct 28, 2017 9:38:50 GMT
I'm sure if she was given the opportunity to be involved, she would bite their hands off (who wouldn't?!) but with Heaven and Earth planned to run til mid May it's not looking likely.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 9:50:42 GMT
So I really like Kerry Ellis - her voice is stunning. Agree she puts herself about too much though and does a lot of cheap mediocre ish stuff.
Do feel she still needs that one role for which she will be remembered - a lead in an original big hit musical. Like Paige and LuPone had Evita, Sunset etc. Brightman in Phantom. Salonga in Saigon. And she just hasn't had that yet. Hopefully there is something round the corner.
But anyway, think she'd be a great Florence - certainly it's a SINGER that can act role.
Will not be going if Idina gets it (well, actually let's face it, I will, I love Chess - but she was TERRIBLE at the RAH).
I am actually in the camp that loved the CRH version - interestingly is the only actor-muso production I have ever liked. Know it got mixed reviews but for me it clicked and worked. Great cast too.
Old enough to remember the Rebecca Storm tour.... Gutted to have missed the Prince Edward though.
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Post by ali973 on Oct 28, 2017 9:56:51 GMT
**IDINA WILL NOT BE IN IT**
Everyone can relax. La Menzel is going to be starring in "Skintight", an off Broadway play from late May well into the summer. She is in fact not even doing the pre-Broaway run of her upcoming star vehicle, "Jagged Little Pill".
Dom- I hear what you say. With Kerry, isn't "Wicked" her big role, being the first British Elphaba? It had a significant impact on her career and whatever fame she has now is directly linked two her original (and subsequent) stint in Wicked. Heck, it even took her to Broadway, a town with no shortage of singers who can sing quite like her.
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Post by musicallady on Oct 28, 2017 9:58:54 GMT
So I really like Kerry Ellis - her voice is stunning. Agree she puts herself about too much though and does a lot of cheap mediocre ish stuff. Do feel she still needs that one role for which she will be remembered - a lead in an original big hit musical. Like Paige and LuPone had Evita, Sunset etc. Brightman in Phantom. Salonga in Saigon. And she just hasn't had that yet. Hopefully there is something round the corner. But anyway, think she'd be a great Florence - certainly it's a SINGER that can act role. Will not be going if Idina gets it (well, actually let's face it, I will, I love Chess - but she was TERRIBLE at the RAH). I am actually in the camp that loved the CRH version - interestingly is the only actor-muso production I have ever liked. Know it got mixed reviews but for me it clicked and worked. Great cast too. Old enough to remember the Rebecca Storm tour.... Gutted to have missed the Prince Edward though. Rebecca Storm version was the best I have ever seen. Maurice Clark was outstanding as the Russian.
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Oct 28, 2017 9:59:50 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 9:59:50 GMT
Dom- I hear what you say. With Kerry, isn't "Wicked" her big role, being the first British Elphaba? It had a significant impact on her career and whatever fame she has now is directly linked two her original (and subsequent) stint in Wicked. Heck, it even took her to Broadway, a town with no shortage of singers who can sing quite like her. Yup, I agree, so far that is her big role. And certainly what brought her to a wider public. But it was a takeover in London from Idina of course. I'd just LOVE her to get the chance to originate an incredible MT role!
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Oct 28, 2017 10:01:30 GMT
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Post by ali973 on Oct 28, 2017 10:01:30 GMT
I haven't seen her, but Rebecca Storm sounded quite amazing. Isn't it the only version that opts to use Nobody's Side as a finale? I quite like the current version with Florence singing a bit of Anthem.
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Post by danb on Oct 28, 2017 10:14:18 GMT
I haven't seen her, but Rebecca Storm sounded quite amazing. Isn't it the only version that opts to use Nobody's Side as a finale? I quite like the current version with Florence singing a bit of Anthem. She was fantastic!
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Post by Scswp on Oct 28, 2017 10:32:52 GMT
Agree about Rebecca Storm - she was fantastic as Florence.
And yes, Nobody’s Side was used as the finale in that version.
Florence also sang ‘Someone Else’s Story’ in that version, not Svetlana. Storm sang that song really well - it really suited her voice.
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Oct 28, 2017 10:35:47 GMT
Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 28, 2017 10:35:47 GMT
Kerry just puts herself about a bit too much to be considered star casting. She earns a living by performing. Not working = no cash, same as the rest of us. No idea what shows she gets offered, but my guess is that she says yes because pragmatically, she enjoys simple pleasures like eating and sleeping indoors in a heated and secure place. Yes, which I acknowledged 100% in the part of of my post that you didn’t quote.
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Oct 28, 2017 12:49:18 GMT
Post by distantcousin on Oct 28, 2017 12:49:18 GMT
Never mind an overlooked Svetlana, Siobhan McCarthy was even better as Florence, and made the romance with Anatoly (Tommy Korberg) far more believable than EP ever did. Oh? When was this? I wasn't aware she played Florence. She replaced Elaine when she left.
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