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Post by kyvai on Jan 28, 2024 14:00:16 GMT
I just listened to the Standard theatre podcast and they really rated this :-)
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Post by eatbigsea on Jan 31, 2024 20:39:49 GMT
I completely understand that this is objectively terrible and yet I am enjoying the hell out of it. If you remember either the film or 90s pop fondly, definitely go. The cast are doing as well as they possibly could with the material and there is some outstanding singing. Daniel Bravo, Rhianne-Louise McCaulsky and Rose Galbraith are all great.
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Post by musicbox on Feb 4, 2024 15:01:31 GMT
I’m currently at the other palace to see this show, however everyone is being kept in the foyer with an announcement from the manager saying they can’t start the show at 3pm due to a “cast change” with “no definitive start time”.
Anyone here in the know as to what’s going on? We may have to abandon if it’s seriously delayed as we have plans later, which is a shame!
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Post by iwant2beatthetheatre on Feb 4, 2024 15:24:30 GMT
I’m currently at the other palace to see this show, however everyone is being kept in the foyer with an announcement from the manager saying they can’t start the show at 3pm due to a “cast change” with “no definitive start time”. Anyone here in the know as to what’s going on? We may have to abandon if it’s seriously delayed as we have plans later, which is a shame! That venue seems to be cursed with this. When I saw Heathers there it started an hour late due to cast changes last minute. Hopefully it can start soon for you 🤞
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Post by musicbox on Feb 4, 2024 18:34:49 GMT
The show eventually started at around 3:40 - just before starting the director Jonathan O’Boyle came to the stage to announce that the delay was caused by Rhianne taking ill and that Verity Thompson was taking over the role of Kathryn, but didn’t know the book or track having never done it. This in person announcement was needed as communication had been dire up until then to be honest.
He then said that the cast had been rehearsing since 10am right up until they opened the auditorium, and that Verity would be performing with the book on an iPad.
Honestly I was very pleasantly surprised by the show overall! The book is a bit messy and the jukebox style makes the storyline quite clunky and hard to follow if you haven’t seen the film, but it’s fun and will give you a laugh if nothing else.
The audience really loved it and if it had original songs I could easily see this becoming a Heathers sized success, but I don’t really see it as a jukebox to be honest.
The reason we went was because my friend loves Abbie Budden’s Tik Toks - I didn’t know her, but thought she did great and can see her being really successful.
I can’t deny that Verity reading from an iPad and not really looking up as she was speaking was a bit distracting, but she did incredibly well under that kind of pressure and I have massive respect for her (A fan in the front row also gave her flowers at the bows).
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Post by Being Alive on Feb 4, 2024 18:45:55 GMT
How are they nearly a month into this and understudies aren't ready?
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Post by Afriley on Feb 4, 2024 18:50:00 GMT
I was there.
Verity did brilliantly all things considered. She was reading heavily in some sections but knew the songs and really grew into in act two to deliver a phenomenal vocal finale.
Overall a fun romp indeed. Some excellent young talent.
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Post by musicbox on Feb 4, 2024 18:51:05 GMT
How are they nearly a month into this and understudies aren't ready? Jonathan apologised for this and said they hadn’t been expecting it to be so successful and that since opening things have been a “whirlwind” - there’s probably more to it but we may never know.
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Post by danb on Feb 4, 2024 18:59:19 GMT
Sheesh! Theres no more to it than cheapskate producers not wanting to pay to rehearse their covers before it opens. Hardly a duty of care is it?
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Feb 4, 2024 19:19:28 GMT
No excuse not to have understudies or covers.
I really feel for Verity and the pressure they were under. Most have been so stressful! What about a duty of care towards your cast?
Giving me Paul Taylor Mills / Heathers vibes.
Not here for it. Well done to that cast though.
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Post by danb on Feb 4, 2024 19:26:39 GMT
I always got the feeling that PTM’s casts would go above & beyond for him though, as a payback to him rather than snything else.
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Post by toomasj on Feb 4, 2024 21:24:27 GMT
As I always ask in these situations - were refunds offered?
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Post by Being Alive on Feb 4, 2024 22:19:58 GMT
How are they nearly a month into this and understudies aren't ready? Jonathan apologised for this and said they hadn’t been expecting it to be so successful and that since opening things have been a “whirlwind” - there’s probably more to it but we may never know. Jonathan's been around long enough to know that doesn't wash as an answer - you're a month in, covers for your leads should be rehearsed. Sorry but i genuinely don't understand why people keep supporting Paul Taylor Mills when he does this sort of stuff all the time - it's beyond unprofessional.
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Post by musicbox on Feb 4, 2024 23:28:13 GMT
As I always ask in these situations - were refunds offered? Yes, the manager at TOP offered refunds as soon as the delay was announced in the foyer. The advice was go to the box office desk.
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Post by danb on Feb 5, 2024 6:33:33 GMT
Jonathan apologised for this and said they hadn’t been expecting it to be so successful and that since opening things have been a “whirlwind” - there’s probably more to it but we may never know. Jonathan's been around long enough to know that doesn't wash as an answer - you're a month in, covers for your leads should be rehearsed. Sorry but i genuinely don't understand why people keep supporting Paul Taylor Mills when he does this sort of stuff all the time - it's beyond unprofessional. I don’t think he has anything to do with Cruel Intentions does he?
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Post by Afriley on Feb 5, 2024 8:00:16 GMT
How are they nearly a month into this and understudies aren't ready? I always thought understudies were rehearsed at the same time as the principle cast even if they were only at the rehearsals to observe?And don't understudies go on during the preview period to give them a "crack of the whip" in front of a live audience? Not always tbh: some productions do cover runs etc later into the run. I assume this is what happened as Verity was clearly in process of being rehearsed for the role but not 100% ready yet. I agree it’s less than ideal of course - illnesses and injuries can happen any time.
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Post by Being Alive on Feb 5, 2024 9:01:22 GMT
Jonathan's been around long enough to know that doesn't wash as an answer - you're a month in, covers for your leads should be rehearsed. Sorry but i genuinely don't understand why people keep supporting Paul Taylor Mills when he does this sort of stuff all the time - it's beyond unprofessional. I don’t think he has anything to do with Cruel Intentions does he? Possible - I just always assume that with Paul running TOP that he's involved with some of these decisions.
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Post by thedriftersgirl on Feb 6, 2024 10:29:48 GMT
This show has just been confirmed to be extending, for another 5 weeks until 19 May :-)
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Post by thedriftersgirl on Feb 7, 2024 0:16:51 GMT
Verity covering Rhianne tonight.
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Post by lewjohnny96 on Feb 7, 2024 2:20:08 GMT
I always thought understudies were rehearsed at the same time as the principle cast even if they were only at the rehearsals to observe?And don't understudies go on during the preview period to give them a "crack of the whip" in front of a live audience? Not always tbh: some productions do cover runs etc later into the run. I assume this is what happened as Verity was clearly in process of being rehearsed for the role but not 100% ready yet. I agree it’s less than ideal of course - illnesses and injuries can happen any time. I don't know how each show operates on an individual basis, but my friend has covered in numerous shows and sometimes she hasn't had any official rehearsals until after their press night. Personally, I think it makes total sense to have everyone ready at the same time, but maybe they just don't have enough time to rehearse a whole cast and an entire cast of understudies at the same time? Especially with a new show they're creating from scratch
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Post by darreno on Feb 12, 2024 14:20:40 GMT
I caught this on Saturday night and it was an enjoyable show.
Very strange being in the Other Palace and it NOT being Heathers. The audience absolutely loved it though, very, very well received.
Jukebox musicals generally don't do it for me, but the combination of a theatre with such a great feeling (to me) and anything 90s sold me!
No weak cast members at all, it doesn't take itself seriously at all, but also isn't completely 'wink, wink, nudge, nudge' either.
I'd catch it again, but probably only if I was at a loose end or if it extends far enough to get a cast change, or to see some understudies.
Audience reaction was certainly very positive though.
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Post by Steve on Feb 22, 2024 18:49:30 GMT
Saw today's matinee, for the second time, and had an absolute ball! Verity Thompson was on as Kathryn Merteuil. Some spoilers follow. . . I was looking for something cheap and entertaining to fill the matinee slot, so booked "Bronco Billy" last minute for £15 with Todaytix, then promptly got an email it was cancelled at 11am. So I traded the credit for this more expensive Rush show, which Rush was still open, and was charged an extra £9.05 (I guess Todaytix threw me an extra pound as commiseration for the cancellation lol). Verity Thompson was a fantastic Kathryn! While her belt is modulated and magnificent, it isn't as thrilling as the main Kathryn's, but her performance more than made up for this: she was the T1000 upgrade of sly amoral evil, slinking around like the snake-like Jodie Steele in Heathers, but with more considered maturity, making her seem even more malevolent. Since all these teen shows are basically bonding morality lessons for the target audience, her slow-building, dark and absolute commitment to Garbage's "I'm only happy when it rains" and Melissa Etheridge's "Im the Only One" really raise the stakes of Valmont's drama, and the importance of the lesson: "Don't be Evil" lol. As Valmont, Daniel Bravo's distinctive bravura swagger means he remains the West End's most likely future casting as a Prince in a Hallmark movie or a secretly psychopathic boyfriend in a Lifetime movie, but the shocking sudden tenderness he shows in Counting Crows's "Colorblind" (my favourite moment in the show) suggests the former is more likely than the latter lol. Anyway, the 90s numbers are banging and so brilliantly integrated into the plot, all sounding like either dialogue or monologue, and not the pointless performance of plot-unrelated time-wasters you get in something like Cilla the Musical. Rose Galbraith and Josh Barnett remain a hoot as the comedy characters, with Galbraith's laugh-out-loud hilarious rendition of Ace of Base's "I Saw the Sign" also serving to remind its target audience that sex is pretty silly, and not to get too het up about it lol. Abbie Budden, as the unattainable religious Sarah-Brown-from-Guys-and-Dolls-like object of Valmont's desire has developed some terrific chemistry with Bravo, and I found myself tearing up from Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn" onwards, "Colorblind" being the pinnacle of emotion, despite knowing that nothing in a show like this can possibly be taken seriously. I hadn't planned to see the show again, but I'm delighted to report it's in damn fine shape for a jukebox teen show, and I'd give it 4 stars now.
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Post by capybara on Mar 1, 2024 14:24:08 GMT
I am usually totally opposed to jukebox musicals and, in some ways, I was quickly reminded why. Nothing jars with me more than a scene suddenly being interrupted by a random pop song that wasn’t written for the story being crowbarred in.
However, Cruel Intentions has an outstanding score. Where else in London could you see a show that features Placebo and not just one but two songs from No Doubt? Spoiler: there is nowhere else.
It is great fun and super trashy. But it knows it is. The story… I mean, it’s pretty mad but you kind of just have to go along with it. I must admit I’m now intrigued to see the cult film.
We were treated to Verity Thompson covering Kathryn. I’d previously been a little underwhelmed by her vocals as Chandler on the Heathers tour but the intimacy of The Other Palace really worked in her favour. She was fantastic vocally and made the role her own. Rose Galbraith was incredible as Cecile as well and definitely gets the biggest laughs as she comes out of her shell.
It’s a really talented cast, going all out. It’s quite small-scale so don’t expect production levels to match the likes of & Juliet - but it doesn’t matter because Cruel Intentions is infinitely more enjoyable.
It’s three stars from me. Which, I think, is pretty good going for a jukebox musical. It’s not going to rock your world but it’s something I’d revisit on another rainy afternoon if it continues to extend its stay.
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Post by mattnyc on Mar 8, 2024 23:27:48 GMT
I had a great time tonight. Full cast was in, which was nice and they're pretty great. I wish this had an original score, though. The songs used are tons of fun and everyone loves them but they only ever TRULY fit in with the story maybe 10% or so of the time and when they start singing a song for absolutely no reason having anything to do with the scene it comes off as insanely lazy. Again, I had a great time overall and would totally see this again but I just wish they would have put a bit more effort into it.
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Post by bigredapple on Mar 30, 2024 19:24:04 GMT
Matinee today
This was dreadful. Genuinely hated it
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Post by westendgirls on Mar 30, 2024 20:22:05 GMT
I was at the matinee today and really enjoyed it. Not seen the film for a few years but a lot of the script sounded familiar so it was definitely a lift directly from the film
I did laugh at the “original Katherine” put your phone off announcement at the start of the show. Kudos that they got Sarah Michelle Geller to do this - either it was her or it was a great sound a like
Will definitely go back before it ends. Could see it transferring to somewhere like the Arts Theatre if it gets kicked out of TOP. Think it would get lost in anything bigger than that. It would do well on a tour as well I think
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Post by properjob on Apr 1, 2024 15:13:07 GMT
I remembered really liking this at the Edinburgh Fringe and so was really keen to see this again.
After the first half I didn't love it and wondered if it hadn't translated from a Fringe show well but the second act was much better.
I agree with other posters that the music is wedged in. I think the 2nd act may have worked better because the song choices were funnier and it is better when it is a bit more knowing.
I'm very glad I've seen it and if I'm in London on a Sunday again I might well catch it again. I don't expect it to gather any Olivier nominations but it is good fun if you are the right age group.
I was surprised to see so many younger people in the audience but I don't expect it to become the next Heathers.
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Post by unseaworthy on Apr 20, 2024 23:30:35 GMT
Are we genuinely expected to laugh along with a teenage girl being tricked into loosing her virginity? Horrible.
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Post by Seriously on Apr 21, 2024 11:19:07 GMT
Well they laugh at murders, attempted suicide, and gay dads in Heathers.
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Post by properjob on Apr 21, 2024 12:13:41 GMT
There's plenty of similar things in other shows e.g. Book of Mormon. There are murders in Wicked. People being seduced under dubious circumstances in Ground Hog Day. The recent version of Oklahoma showed up how dark some bits are which are normally played for laughs.
Given the ultimate source material of the novel it shouldn't be a surprise.
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