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Post by danb on Nov 14, 2017 19:58:18 GMT
I stood for the first half hour of act 2 of Les Mis (until Eponine was dead basically...) after being bullied out of my aisle seat by a moany old woman. I lost interest very quickly being sandwiched between floors and walls and it felt really far from the stage so I just left quietly.
I used to really enjoy standing for Starlight Express for a fiver, as you were still in the thick of the action and the Apollo Vic seemed really small back then.
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Post by sam22 on Nov 14, 2017 20:15:57 GMT
I stood for the first half hour of act 2 of Les Mis (until Eponine was dead basically...) after being bullied out of my aisle seat by a moany old woman. I lost interest very quickly being sandwiched between floors and walls and it felt really far from the stage so I just left quietly. I used to really enjoy standing for Starlight Express for a fiver, as you were still in the thick of the action and the Apollo Vic seemed really small back then. I want to know more detail about the Les Mis story!
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Post by theatremadness on Nov 14, 2017 23:32:36 GMT
I've stood for Les Mis twice before....I really wasn't as bad as I'd feared!
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Post by danb on Nov 15, 2017 9:51:57 GMT
I stood for the first half hour of act 2 of Les Mis (until Eponine was dead basically...) after being bullied out of my aisle seat by a moany old woman. I lost interest very quickly being sandwiched between floors and walls and it felt really far from the stage so I just left quietly. I used to really enjoy standing for Starlight Express for a fiver, as you were still in the thick of the action and the Apollo Vic seemed really small back then. I want to know more detail about the Les Mis story! She had “terrible arthritis”, “all the aisle seats were gone”, ‘please could you swap with me I’m in agony’. ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SODDING INTERVAL. I was in town for a meeting, only really wanted to hear Carrie sing it again before she left so didn’t really mind going to stand. I’m 6’4” and have some big old thighs so really wouldn’t cope with a non-aisle seat. So I was just being kind, saw what I wanted and got a longer nights sleep so all was fine.
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Post by danb on Nov 15, 2017 11:09:54 GMT
the Apollo Vic seemed really small back then. It was, really. Half the seats, as the racetrack took up a lot of space downstairs, and most of the rear section was blocked off upstairs. I’ve only been upstairs once at the AV, for Saturday Night Fever I think. I don’t remember it being particularly cavernous. Was the back curtained off or walled in?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 11:24:12 GMT
I stood from 4pm until 11pm for a Rihanna concert... added the travel back, didn't actually sit until I got on the train at 1am.
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Post by Dan213 on Nov 15, 2017 11:32:22 GMT
Surely all this stuff should go in a separate thread. Keep on gettting my hopes up every time I see a new post on this
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Post by danb on Nov 15, 2017 12:42:11 GMT
Surely all this stuff should go in a separate thread. Keep on gettting my hopes up every time I see a new post on this Mwah ha ha ha (twirls moustache). You are quite right though. Burly? Fancing creating a ‘standing at the theatre’ thread?
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Post by tr252 on Dec 3, 2017 21:08:49 GMT
I'm more excited about this potentially opening in London than I am about Hamilton. The cast recording is beautiful and quite emotional, would love to see this on stage.
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Post by lonlad on Dec 4, 2017 1:56:37 GMT
Hmmmmm ....................
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 11:41:18 GMT
WhatsOnStage hinting heavily at a run in The Phoenix 2019 today.
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Post by Being Alive on Dec 27, 2017 13:03:35 GMT
Interesting. I guess it would make sense - Chicago for a year (I really don't see it doing well unless they stunt cast it massively - not that I want this), although I keep hearing the Adelphi, but date keeps being pushed back. They seem to be waiting for Kinky Boots to annouce closure than swooping in. But Phoenix would make more sense for the show...
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Post by Jon on Dec 27, 2017 13:55:40 GMT
The Adelphi would be too big for the show. The Phoenix or Savoy would make a lot more sense and ATG are one of the producers of DEH on Broadway
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 14:03:45 GMT
Spring 2019 would make sense for either the Savoy or Phoenix I would imagine.
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Post by tr252 on Dec 27, 2017 14:37:44 GMT
But 2019 is so far away for Ben Platt to reprise the role, see me in the audience, fall in love and run away with me so we can live happily ever after...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 15:14:59 GMT
My unfounded concern would be Phoenix seems to be cursed and the home for the dregs. DEH would be better placed on Shaftesbury Av or Strand. Always hoped it'd land in the Gielgud.
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Post by Jon on Dec 27, 2017 15:26:22 GMT
My unfounded concern would be Phoenix seems to be cursed and the home for the dregs. DEH would be better placed on Shaftesbury Av or Strand. Always hoped it'd land in the Gielgud. The Phoenix isn't cursed, it's just had a bad run of shows which many theatres have, the Shaftesbury had a string of flops before Hairspray and now like it or not, it's had a successful show in Motown, likewise The Piccadilly as well. It only takes one show to turn things around. Not to mention, Once ran there for two years so it's not always been flop after flop
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Post by daniel on Dec 27, 2017 15:27:04 GMT
The one problem Phoenix has is that it's somewhat off the beaten track, so doesn't get the same level of walk up tourist trade as the venues on the Strand/Shaftesbury Ave. If Ben Platt (or someone of that level of fame) were to star in the show, then it wouldn't be an issue as that will drive the sales, otherwise I think it would be better suited to one of DMT's larger playhouses, or the Savoy.
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Post by poster J on Dec 27, 2017 16:47:32 GMT
The one problem Phoenix has is that it's somewhat off the beaten track, so doesn't get the same level of walk up tourist trade as the venues on the Strand/Shaftesbury Ave. If Ben Platt (or someone of that level of fame) were to star in the show, then it wouldn't be an issue as that will drive the sales, otherwise I think it would be better suited to one of DMT's larger playhouses, or the Savoy. Is Ben Platt really that well known here outside the realm of theatre fans? I'm not convinced we'd get an open-ended run of this anyway, and if it's a limited run then the Phoenix would be fine.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Dec 27, 2017 16:54:58 GMT
Open ended transfer with Mr Platt staring for a limited three month run ala Ms Menzel when Wicked transferred! Please please please!
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Post by Jon on Dec 27, 2017 17:02:21 GMT
The one problem Phoenix has is that it's somewhat off the beaten track, so doesn't get the same level of walk up tourist trade as the venues on the Strand/Shaftesbury Ave. If Ben Platt (or someone of that level of fame) were to star in the show, then it wouldn't be an issue as that will drive the sales, otherwise I think it would be better suited to one of DMT's larger playhouses, or the Savoy. The Phoenix is a stone's throw away from the Palace, Prince Edward and it's on the same street as the Wyndham's and Garrick so it's not really off the beaten track unlike the Shaftesbury. It's true that is doesn't stand out compared to the others.
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Post by Dan213 on Dec 27, 2017 17:09:01 GMT
The one problem Phoenix has is that it's somewhat off the beaten track, so doesn't get the same level of walk up tourist trade as the venues on the Strand/Shaftesbury Ave. If Ben Platt (or someone of that level of fame) were to star in the show, then it wouldn't be an issue as that will drive the sales, otherwise I think it would be better suited to one of DMT's larger playhouses, or the Savoy. Is Ben Platt really that well known here outside the realm of theatre fans? I'm not convinced we'd get an open-ended run of this anyway, and if it's a limited run then the Phoenix would be fine. He was in Pitch Perfect. I know quite a few non-theatre people that know who he is
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Post by ali973 on Dec 27, 2017 17:40:44 GMT
I dunno guys..that off the cuff remark on WhatsOnStage holds no weight as far as I'm concerned.
I'd find it a very tough sell to make this show crossover and do well.
There were so many other big shows that were either rumored or had a topic that could have been a lot more viable for London: Hedwig, Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, for example. Even when In the Heights, came it was an independent production in a fringe venue and not a major production based on the original (at that point it was even available for amateurs everywhere). Fun Home took forever and only coming in as a limited run in a niche venue. So just because a show is a smash success in the US, it doesn't make it viable for London.
Sorry, I just can't imagine this in London at all.
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Post by Jon on Dec 27, 2017 17:51:45 GMT
Dear Evan Hansen has one advantage that the others don't is that the composers Pasek and Paul have done two big movies with La La Land and The Greatest Showman and they can use that in the marketing and considering it's making $1m a week the producers will likely be at least considering a London run.
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Post by ali973 on Dec 27, 2017 18:10:13 GMT
I think it can serve as a decent tagline ("from the writers of ...") if everything else is in the right place, but I don't think you can sell a show alone based on the work of a young team that is still virtually unknown.
Is there even a single quote by the original team that indicates there has been talk of a London production? Given how it still did not even announce dates, let alone open, in major American markets, I'd wait this out for a long time if it were to happen.
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Post by showtoones on Dec 27, 2017 19:11:37 GMT
I dont see Dear Evan Hansen going to the Phoenix. For anyone who thinks Chicago will only do 1 year doesn't know Barry and Fran Weissler. The show costs nothing as they put the Adelphi/Cambridge/Garrick set in storage after the run was over as they knew it would come back.
DEH needs to Duke of Yorks or maybe the Geilgud?
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Post by Jon on Dec 27, 2017 19:43:44 GMT
I dont see Dear Evan Hansen going to the Phoenix. For anyone who thinks Chicago will only do 1 year doesn't know Barry and Fran Weissler. The show costs nothing as they put the Adelphi/Cambridge/Garrick set in storage after the run was over as they knew it would come back. DEH needs to Duke of Yorks or maybe the Gielgud? The Duke of York's is way too small and also Chicago really struggled in its last year at the Garrick and was kicked out of the Cambridge to make way for Matilda so it's not a guarantee that it'll become a long runner at the Phoenix
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 19:52:07 GMT
I dunno guys..that off the cuff remark on WhatsOnStage holds no weight as far as I'm concerned. I'd find it a very tough sell to make this show crossover and do well. There were so many other big shows that were either rumored or had a topic that could have been a lot more viable for London: Hedwig, Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder, for example. Even when In the Heights, came it was an independent production in a fringe venue and not a major production based on the original (at that point it was even available for amateurs everywhere). Fun Home took forever and only coming in as a limited run in a niche venue. So just because a show is a smash success in the US, it doesn't make it viable for London. Sorry, I just can't imagine this in London at all. I agree I'm afraid. This type of show for whatever reason does well on Broadway but not in the West End. Really can't see it anywhere other than a fringe venue. Although as MT fans we hear about it a lot, it's actually very niche, and would not bring in the UK coach trips.
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Post by Jon on Dec 27, 2017 20:03:21 GMT
I disagree that DEH is niche or can only work in the fringe or somewhere like the Young Vic. If we can have shows like Everybody's Talking About Jamie come to the West End from Sheffield then DEH has a chance of coming over.
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Post by ali973 on Dec 27, 2017 22:43:06 GMT
I disagree that DEH is niche or can only work in the fringe or somewhere like the Young Vic. If we can have shows like Everybody's Talking About Jamie come to the West End from Sheffield then DEH has a chance of coming over. Besides the blue background and a title with the character...there's really nothing these two shows have in common. Everything about Everything About Jamie makes a case for it to come to London. It's a British show about British people by British people that did well regionally. DEH..isn't and its suburban setting makes it a tough sell to a big public. And before we start comparing it to Hamilton on the grounds of them being both American and let's look at where Hamilton is..let's not.
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