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Post by Cleo on Feb 10, 2019 20:38:11 GMT
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Post by learfan on Feb 10, 2019 21:11:33 GMT
Well it will actually be the 28th (29 if you include 2 noble kinsmen). The second tetralogy aside there are only Winters Tale, Alls Well, Comedy of Errors, Henry8 and possibly Pericles to go.
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Post by mistressjojo on Feb 10, 2019 23:27:44 GMT
The latest RSC members letter included a chart showing what's been done ( in order) & what's to do. If they continue in this order next season will be Henry 8 and All's Well , and final play will be Winter's Tale (with CoE, the three Henry6 and Pericles in between.)
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Post by learfan on Feb 11, 2019 3:35:58 GMT
The latest RSC members letter included a chart showing what's been done ( in order) & what's to do. If they continue in this order next season will be Henry 8 and All's Well , and final play will be Winter's Tale (with CoE, the three Henry6 and Pericles in between.) Im a bronze patron and i didnt get any sort of chart with the recent mailing! I feel an email in the morning, grrr.
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Post by lichtie on Feb 13, 2019 19:54:58 GMT
You definitely should have got a chart with the mailing. It's hard to know if the order mistressjojo gave is right though as the last 8 also just happen to be listed in alphabetical order (Pericles isn't in it, nor is 2 NK, and H8 is listed under its All is True title).
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Post by learfan on Feb 13, 2019 20:23:17 GMT
You definitely should have got a chart with the mailing. It's hard to know if the order mistressjojo gave is right though as the last 8 also just happen to be listed in alphabetical order (Pericles isn't in it, nor is 2 NK, and H8 is listed under its All is True title). I emailed them and they said they were customising them or something but ive got one now. Pericles and 2NK arent in the folio so wont be included. Yes hard to tell if that is the order or not. Though i have always assumed the H6/R3 tetralogy would be at the end.
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Post by mistressjojo on Feb 13, 2019 20:41:01 GMT
You definitely should have got a chart with the mailing. It's hard to know if the order mistressjojo gave is right though as the last 8 also just happen to be listed in alphabetical order (Pericles isn't in it, nor is 2 NK, and H8 is listed under its All is True title). My bad sorry, I didn't have it in front of me when I posted. Indeed no Pericles, with R3 the penultimate show.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Feb 18, 2019 11:41:47 GMT
Enthusiasm for the new season so low only realised members booking opened this morning when it was in my Twitter feed.
Not even done my usual review of dates.
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Post by lynette on Feb 18, 2019 17:19:00 GMT
Enthusiasm for the new season so low only realised members booking opened this morning when it was in my Twitter feed. Not even done my usual review of dates. The Boy in the Dress is the big thing and it looks like nothing else is important.
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Post by learfan on Feb 18, 2019 18:45:06 GMT
Enthusiasm for the new season so low only realised members booking opened this morning when it was in my Twitter feed. Not even done my usual review of dates. The Boy in the Dress is the big thing and it looks like nothing else is important. I mean i know they want another WE hit but its a basic error not to programme a Shakespeare in the mainhouse. The Swan season looks ok. But talk about putting all your eggs in one basket.
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Post by cirque on Feb 19, 2019 8:43:52 GMT
simply can no longer be bothered with them.....seems a light hearted statement but they fail to lead or inspire on any front.
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Post by Xanderl on Feb 22, 2019 7:42:13 GMT
Comprehensive display of works by the writer and his contemporaries at the Royal Walliams Company shop at the moment. Nine months before the show opens.
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Post by learfan on Feb 22, 2019 8:53:21 GMT
Oh please! A couple of shelves for what they obviously hope will be their next big hit. They do have to make money, the subsidy is less and less crucial to them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 8:59:09 GMT
Oh no, wherever will I get my tacky Shakespeare fridge magnets from now, the shops all over the entire rest of the town?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 9:24:05 GMT
Yes speaking as someone who currently works in 'arts organisation retail' for want of a better description of my job, if I had la Walliams and La Williams coming in a year's time, but could put a poster up of them and shift some books....damn right I'd be making that display faster than you can belt a verse of Angels.
For the same reason the RSC (and me) spent weeks whoring and Love connected items in the shop in the run up to Feb 14th, money darlings money.
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Post by altamont on Feb 22, 2019 9:48:44 GMT
I've no interest in the Boy in the Dress and wish they'd been able to fit King John in the main house but I don't begrudge them putting on something that will bring in the crowds, possibly transfer to the West End and become the new Matilda, and merchandising it for all its worth.
I assume that without Matilda, the RSC might have had a very difficult decade financially?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 12:42:43 GMT
speaking as someone who currently works in 'arts organisation retail' for want of a better description of my job Programme seller? And Ice Cream.
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Post by cirque on Jun 7, 2019 10:58:50 GMT
So,,,,with todays announcement of Comedy Festival followed by The Boy In The Dress until Spring at RST -there will be no large scale Shakespeare at Stratford from August end to March.Amazingly bad planning.
King John only in Swan with 2 new plays-will not have audience I feel sure.
Nails coming thick and fast into RSC coffin.
Whatever they may say about community etc...the main role is to explore Shakespeare on its main stage.
Given this season,however,maybe a blessing in disguise.Regroup and Rethink before its too late.
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Post by learfan on Jun 7, 2019 11:26:42 GMT
This is hardly breaking news. I agree they could have put a Shakespeare in the RST even for a short run a la Troilus. However i hear they need the time for reconfigureing the theatre for the straight run of Boy. Very premature to talk about nails in coffins.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 7, 2019 12:40:04 GMT
if The Boy in the Dress is not the next Matilda, this is going to put a very large dint in the bottom line for the year.
Big risk - even with the names in the writing team.
Doran has to go soon - for the sake of Shakespeare and creativity.
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Post by learfan on Jun 7, 2019 14:05:37 GMT
if The Boy in the Dress is not the next Matilda, this is going to put a very large dint in the bottom line for the year. Big risk - even with the names in the writing team. Doran has to go soon - for the sake of Shakespeare and creativity. For the sake of Shakespeare!!! Your opinion of course but he will see his ten years out and i imagine go in 2023.
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Post by David J on Jun 7, 2019 17:10:09 GMT
Dorans got Errors, Alls well, Pericles, Winters Tale, Henry VI and Richard III left to do
Pericles, Winters Tale, and Errors seem like an apt group for a ‘lost families in far off lands’ season
Obvioulsy were going to have a summer/winter devoted to Henry VI. Assuming that’s in 2022 and Richard III ends the tenure in 2023 that leaves four plays to fill up two years
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Post by lynette on Jun 7, 2019 18:47:13 GMT
I’ll be honest, I’m a big fan of the RSC as you can prob gather from my posts but I also think this concentration of talent and money on the Dress is foolhardy. It is not necessarily going to the a big hit. I mean I hope it is for the finances need it to be but the RSC should be all about Shakespeare as has been said here. I think that they should keep doing the plays that young people need to see, the GCSE curriculum and try to widen that curriculum and do everything that can be done to widen the access of children to Shakespeare. They do so much but more is dreadfully needed. Just recently there has been a thing about Macbeth. Apparently some of the qs on the exam were about the porter at the gate and teachers complained because they didn’t bother to look at that character and incident. Well, going to see a decent production would have at least made them look it up! Not to mention the explanatory programmes which I found v useful in my student days. I loved Matilda, saw it twice but I’m not so inclined towards the Dress so I suppose they are hoping for the big Xmas treat this winter to get it on the map. I deplore the book stand focusing on Walliams. I saw there a couple of books which I was going to complain about, differentiating girls' and boys' stories, heroes and rebels. You can guess to whom the rebels were addressed. Yes, girls. I was appalled. Girls have to be rebels? But boys heroes? A lot of work to be done in the marketing department. 😁
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Post by learfan on Jun 7, 2019 21:14:59 GMT
Dorans got Errors, Alls well, Pericles, Winters Tale, Henry VI and Richard III left to do Pericles, Winters Tale, and Errors seem like an apt group for a ‘lost families in far off lands’ season Obvioulsy were going to have a summer/winter devoted to Henry VI. Assuming that’s in 2022 and Richard III ends the tenure in 2023 that leaves four plays to fill up two years Pericles isnt in the Folio. So there's the second tetralogy plus the four others, i reckon it finishes summer 2021.
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Post by learfan on Jun 7, 2019 21:18:45 GMT
I’ll be honest, I’m a big fan of the RSC as you can prob gather from my posts but I also think this concentration of talent and money on the Dress is foolhardy. It is not necessarily going to the a big hit. I mean I hope it is for the finances need it to be but the RSC should be all about Shakespeare as has been said here. I think that they should keep doing the plays that young people need to see, the GCSE curriculum and try to widen that curriculum and do everything that can be done to widen the access of children to Shakespeare. They do so much but more is dreadfully needed. Just recently there has been a thing about Macbeth. Apparently some of the qs on the exam were about the porter at the gate and teachers complained because they didn’t bother to look at that character and incident. Well, going to see a decent production would have at least made them look it up! Not to mention the explanatory programmes which I found v useful in my student days. I loved Matilda, saw it twice but I’m not so inclined towards the Dress so I suppose they are hoping for the big Xmas treat this winter to get it on the map. I deplore the book stand focusing on Walliams. I saw there a couple of books which I was going to complain about, differentiating girls' and boys' stories, heroes and rebels. You can guess to whom the rebels were addressed. Yes, girls. I was appalled. Girls have to be rebels? But boys heroes? A lot of work to be done in the marketing department. 😁 We must have passed one another in the RSC at some stage over the years L.
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Post by lynette on Jun 10, 2019 17:07:27 GMT
I’m sure we have, learfan.
Just wondering if the RSC knows there will be another Williams show on at Xmas, about the Grandpa character. Will this show compete, especially if developed into a year round show?
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Post by theatremad on Aug 7, 2019 14:34:53 GMT
Had a minor rant on Twitter about this.
The only theatre with plays in from September until February will be the Swan, TOP won't even get a second new work festival. And leaving us with the musical in RST.
Turns this winter into a joke for plays. Usually get at least 6 plays over winter period based on last few years, will be a grand total of 3.
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Post by Xanderl on Aug 7, 2019 17:02:21 GMT
Had a minor rant on Twitter about this.
The only theatre with plays in from September until February will be the Swan, TOP won't even get a second new work festival. And leaving us with the musical in RST.
Turns this winter into a joke for plays. Usually get at least 6 plays over winter period based on last few years, will be a grand total of 3. Is that the tweet where the RSC's response to a complaint about a lack of plays was "Hey we've got a comedy festival though!" Presumably some of this is down to declining subsidy levels, and if I recall correctly it's only comparatively recently that they've had anything at all on over the winter - older RSC hands can no doubt clarify this! But yes, they do seem to be putting a lot of eggs in one basket with The Boy in the Dress. Which as far as I can see has sold very well for matinees and the Christmas week, as you'd expect, but not particularly well outside of that. No idea how that compares with pre-sales for Matilda.
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Post by cirque on Aug 7, 2019 17:39:43 GMT
RSC win. I can’t contemplate going back for a long time. They have alienated the audience that followed them, do ask front of house about the dislike of trad audience.... the winter season is a cop out.....from end August until March only one Shakespeare in the whole complex. Trailer does not give me any hope...... the two new Swan plays will empty the house....new plays rarely get decent audiences here and should debut in TOP and,if successful,upgrade subsequently.
Everything at Stratford now shrieks of a desperation to discover a new audience....prove they are as cool as cucumbers....which they are not and pretend they have the youngest,most diverse audience in the country.Its phoney....Shakespeare and his contemporaries do not live here any more and it is with regret that I am stopping going to the RSC. Maybe one day if a new team take over with vision and a desiire to stage the plays then I will go back. RSC won’t care but many of us have simply had it. Greg bounded onto stage when he took over claiming Shakespeare was now at the core.....promises of restoring powerful actors to lead,contemporaries in Swan....new work in TOP.......it all sounded so good. This season strikes me as most depressing attempt to neutralise the plays.....summed up by The 7 Ages of a Soul.....and cutting Rosaline ‘s conjuring of the men at epilogue to As You.
How very sorry this all is.....
I often wonder what charter demands of this company.
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Post by learfan on Aug 7, 2019 23:13:07 GMT
Not me, im going to Measure for Measure Saturday and have already booked for KJ and the interesting sounding Museum in Baghdad. I agree it is risky concentrating on Boy... as the sole main house offering, but it is one single season! To answer another poster the RSC have performed through the winter in Stratford for decades. The 2020 season will be announced next month, hoping for Henry 8,Alls Well, and a jacobethan or two in the Swan, Edward II is definitely due following the other recent Marlowes. Each to their own but im sticking with them.
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