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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:40:18 GMT
I don’t have pictures but Hiddleston’s hair in Suburban Shootout was a sight for sore eyes Here to help . . .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:44:53 GMT
Doing the Lord's work as ever @ryan
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:47:40 GMT
Will be interesting who will be the other two actors joining TH. I have seen one production of Betrayal so far at The Crucible in Sheffield and I cannot remember that much except that I really liked it and John Simm was absolutely fantastic as Jerry.
I loved that production too. It's the only Pinter I've seen which I've enjoyed. Ruth Gemmell was fab too.
I liked the set - they had a glass floor with a load of rubbish underneath it - bus tickets and menus and theatre tickets, coffee cups and stuff. I assume the general detritus of a relationship, dates and so on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:50:11 GMT
It's also perfectly possible that Pinter isn't actually that difficult to understand. Some Pinter isn't hard to understand, some Pinter is very entertaining and accessible, even. Some of it is very funny! Some of it is difficult and obscure and tends to bewilder and drag even with the best actors alive in it. *cough*No Man's Land*cough*.
HUZZAH! Someone agrees with me about that awful fiasco. I hated HATED that production, and it's up there with my top 3 things I have most disliked in the theatre ever.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 19:18:21 GMT
Some Pinter isn't hard to understand, some Pinter is very entertaining and accessible, even. Some of it is very funny! Some of it is difficult and obscure and tends to bewilder and drag even with the best actors alive in it. *cough*No Man's Land*cough*.
HUZZAH! Someone agrees with me about that awful fiasco. I hated HATED that production, and it's up there with my top 3 things I have most disliked in the theatre ever.
i wasn't in love with it either....I mean I enjoyed at bit of Sir Ian and Sir Pat pootling about the stage for what felt like 3 hours. I didn't actively hate it put nor can I remember much about the damn thing if I'm honest. Anyway back to Hiddles and his hair. It is lovely hair.
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Post by showgirl on Nov 15, 2018 19:48:01 GMT
Happy to be a fan of neither - ie Pinter or the aforementioned actor - so not to have another "must-see" play on my list!
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Post by indis on Nov 15, 2018 19:50:42 GMT
I don’t have pictures but Hiddleston’s hair in Suburban Shootout was a sight for sore eyes Here to help . . . love the locks he has at the moment , but could go without the beard O:)
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Post by lakeside on Nov 15, 2018 20:11:08 GMT
Don't panic - this should be a lot easier to get tickets for than anything else recently, as it's a 3 month run in a medium-sized theatre. There will almost certainly be some form of day seat or TodayTix rush/lotto as a fall-back option. I wouldn't rule out an NT live broadcast, either, considering the fancy way they are already marketing it. Thanks for the reassurance I didn't get into RADA Hamlet last year or the Pinter gala night recently, and think I managed to get one of the very last tickets to the talk he did with Josie Rourke a couple of weeks ago so I was just having visions of the dreaded 'sold out' message.
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Post by jess173 on Nov 15, 2018 20:23:59 GMT
I‘m very nervous about that too. Coriolanus sold out so quickly and while this one is bigger I’m still super scared to miss out.
Do you think they will limit the number of tickets one can buy?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 20:24:22 GMT
Doing the Lord's work as ever @ryan Always a pleasure. Never a chore.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 21:03:04 GMT
I don't know why but the thought of Hiddleston in a Pinter play sets me off laughing. And all the pictures you've put on here (especially the one from Ryan) are hilarious. I don't think I could go to see this because I'm convinced I'll collapse in a fit of giggles during the pregnant pauses.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 15, 2018 21:54:22 GMT
I *wish* he was blond and curly-haired, I miss that look (ridiculous though it was). Indeed, so much so that it's still how I see him in my head! Bring back Wallander Hiddles!! He’ll always be Cassio to me! goo.gl/images/bn6NFyJust lately he has been describing himself as ‘ginger’, rather than blond. Which is clearly wrong.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 15, 2018 22:02:58 GMT
I‘m very nervous about that too. Coriolanus sold out so quickly and while this one is bigger I’m still super scared to miss out. Do you think they will limit the number of tickets one can buy? The Harold Pinter is three times the size of the Donmar! RADA Hamlet was officially ridiculous in part because they weren’t allowing any returns - there were empty seats the night I saw it, presumably sold to people who couldn’t make it on the night for one reason or another. In my experience, if you really want to see a show and can be reasonably flexible about your dates, you will get in. You might have to get up early and queue for day seats, or haunt the website for returns, or keep an eye out on social media for people with spare tickets they want to sell, but with a decent length run in a decent size theatre you will get in if you really want to.
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Post by princeton on Nov 15, 2018 23:26:51 GMT
Do you remember the 1998 Trevor Nunn production at NT where the set was based on the Rachel Whiteread sculpture "House" and was a cast of the rooms giving an inverse image of them, mirroring the reversed timeline of the play. I do. A very early Es Devlin set if I recall correctly. I remember thinking it was a pretty good art installation - less good as the set for Betrayal.
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Post by nash16 on Nov 16, 2018 0:07:19 GMT
The "trailer" for this is HI-LARIOUS.
What is he on?
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Post by Jan on Nov 16, 2018 7:00:05 GMT
Do you remember the 1998 Trevor Nunn production at NT where the set was based on the Rachel Whiteread sculpture "House" and was a cast of the rooms giving an inverse image of them, mirroring the reversed timeline of the play. I do. A very early Es Devlin set if I recall correctly. I remember thinking it was a pretty good art installation - less good as the set for Betrayal. Es Devlin - correct. I thought as a concept it was great. Before that I saw a good production of the play at the Almeida with Cheryl Campbell, Martyn Shaw and Bill Nighy. However, I think it is one of the very few plays where the film version (Ben Kingsley, Jeremy Irons, Patricia Hodge) is better than any stage production of it I've seen. Glengarry Glen Ross is another.
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Post by learfan on Nov 16, 2018 8:34:15 GMT
I saw that Almeida production. Very good as i recall. Will book for this new one, bringing the kiddiwinks as a treat.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 16, 2018 9:35:36 GMT
The "trailer" for this is HI-LARIOUS. What is he on? Which ‘he’ are you referring to? Hiddles? Jamie Lloyd? I haven’t seen a set of credits for the trailer so I don’t think anyone knows who came up with the idea, directed it, where the music comes from, etc. Might have been done by someone in the marketing department at Jamie Lloyd Co.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 9:57:32 GMT
It's a Dusthouse trailer, they do a lot with the RSC.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 16, 2018 10:11:54 GMT
Awesome. I somehow missed that tweet among the many times the trailer crossed my various timelines (which is what I get for following Jamie Lloyd AND The Jamie Lloyd Company AND ATG AND Hiddles on both Twitter and Instagram - a bit like the Ian McKellen announcement from 5-6 different theatres t'other day).
So it looks like the man responsible for the trailer is Christopher McGill.
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Post by Xanderl on Nov 16, 2018 10:14:49 GMT
I‘m very nervous about that too. Coriolanus sold out so quickly and while this one is bigger I’m still super scared to miss out. Do you think they will limit the number of tickets one can buy? There is an FAQ on ticket booking for Betrayal - www.pinteratthepinter.com/betrayal--faqsThis is a clever bit of marketing for the current season Also worth noting: and they say there is a limit of 4 tickets per person.
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Post by Jan on Nov 16, 2018 10:50:23 GMT
I saw that Almeida production. Very good as i recall. Will book for this new one, bringing the kiddiwinks as a treat. The grandchildren I assume you mean. Of course this play is based closely on Pinter’s own affair with the then married Joan Bakewell who old people like us remember from all those arts programmes she used to present - she used to be referred to as “the thinking man’s crumpet”, a description coined by Frank Muir.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 10:56:49 GMT
I saw that Almeida production. Very good as i recall. Will book for this new one, bringing the kiddiwinks as a treat. The grandchildren I assume you mean. Of course this play is based closely on Pinter’s own affair with the then married Joan Bakewell who old people like us remember from all those arts programmes she used to present - she used to be referred to as “the thinking man’s crumpet”. And let's not forget that Pinter was also having another affair with another woman while having an affair with Joan. So cheating on the woman that he was cheating on his wife with. At the same time. Keeping each one a secret from the other. My. What a guy.
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Post by Jan on Nov 16, 2018 11:10:28 GMT
The grandchildren I assume you mean. Of course this play is based closely on Pinter’s own affair with the then married Joan Bakewell who old people like us remember from all those arts programmes she used to present - she used to be referred to as “the thinking man’s crumpet”. And let's not forget that Pinter was also having another affair with another woman while having an affair with Joan. So cheating on the woman that he was cheating on his wife with. At the same time. Keeping each one a secret from the other. My. What a guy. However as his subsequent affair with Antonia Fraser led, albeit indirectly, to the death of his wife Vivien Merchant, we should somewhat temper our admiration. Several very good playwrights who in public have occupied the high moral ground have indulged in doubtful behaviour in their private lives of course, Arthur Miller being another. Ibsen too.
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Post by learfan on Nov 16, 2018 12:11:51 GMT
I saw that Almeida production. Very good as i recall. Will book for this new one, bringing the kiddiwinks as a treat. The grandchildren I assume you mean. Of course this play is based closely on Pinter’s own affair with the then married Joan Bakewell who old people like us remember from all those arts programmes she used to present - she used to be referred to as “the thinking man’s crumpet”, a description coined by Frank Muir. Oh very droll! My two are 23 an 20, im only 53 so no grandkids yet. I know La Bakewell from archive footage. I did in fact sit next to her at the NT Pinter celebration ten years ago, had a nice chat.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 16, 2018 12:18:54 GMT
And let's not forget that Pinter was also having another affair with another woman while having an affair with Joan. So cheating on the woman that he was cheating on his wife with. At the same time. Keeping each one a secret from the other. My. What a guy. However as his subsequent affair with Antonia Fraser led, albeit indirectly, to the death of his wife Vivien Merchant, we should somewhat temper our admiration. Several very good playwrights who in public have occupied the high moral ground have indulged in doubtful behaviour in their private lives of course, Arthur Miller being another. Ibsen too. Hmm, it does seem to be the case that many great writers are terrible hypocrites! Can anyone think of any who are entirely virtuous and didn't have any skeletons in their closet? Though I am not entirely sure if that's to do with being a great writer, as much as it's to do with being human, to be fair.
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Post by zahidf on Nov 16, 2018 12:42:31 GMT
Pinter never pretended to be anything other than a Tw*t though did he? He plays (as I read them) don't moralise
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Post by Jan on Nov 16, 2018 18:10:52 GMT
Pinter never pretended to be anything other than a Tw*t though did he? He took himself very seriously, sure of his own moral purity, look at his Nobel prize acceptance speech for example.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 19:31:20 GMT
I saw Pinter once in the Crucible audience. It was during their Pinter season years ago, and it was a reading of a radio play with Prunella Scales and Tim West, and then a Q&A with them and Sam West, when he was AD at the Crucible. Pinter was sitting just behind me,and the lady next to me was RANTING at the interval about what a load of pompous sh*t it all was, with her companion nudging and nudging and kicking her to try and make her shut up. He just sat there sort of smiling. I'd forgotten all about it til just now. Ahh, that was a good evening.
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Post by nash16 on Nov 16, 2018 21:10:31 GMT
The "trailer" for this is HI-LARIOUS. What is he on? Which ‘he’ are you referring to? Hiddles? Jamie Lloyd? I haven’t seen a set of credits for the trailer so I don’t think anyone knows who came up with the idea, directed it, where the music comes from, etc. Might have been done by someone in the marketing department at Jamie Lloyd Co. Def Hiddles. It doesn't seem to be saying...anything about the play. You have to slightly ask what the point of it is? It does make me laugh though.
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