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Post by Scswp on Feb 26, 2017 7:43:27 GMT
Now I went again to this tonight (yes second time in a week) and left somewhat disheartened. I enjoyed it a lot first time round but I didn't enjoy it as much this time. There are still moments I enjoy (One Knight and ANY second Natalie McQueen is on stage) but I properly saw how awful the non-existent plot is. I sort of laughed it off first time but couldn't this time. It doesn't have any moment of jepody or emotional height. Rachael was very much going through the motions tonight (as opposed to Monday when I thought she was on fine form). Looked bored, didn't want to be there. I'll go again, as I want to see Kerry Ellis, but that'll be it for me. To be fair, when I saw Kerry, she appeared to be going through the motions. I quite enjoyed the show, but agree that there is no moment of drama. The character of Alice spends most of the time onstage just as an onlooker to the action - there seemed to be little direction to her character for these long sections. She just looked on, frequently tucking her hair behind her ears - in fact, she did it so many times, I wondered if that was the actual direction!! Considering Alice is the main character, she seemed poorly defined and strangely uninvolved in the background of several scenes.
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Post by shady23 on Feb 26, 2017 8:59:12 GMT
I was tempted to go to York to see Rachel as she said she was doing the matinee. I contacted Wonderland HQ since and they said Michelle is doing it. Who to believe?! If they can't communicate clearly between them whose doing the show when then they're in trouble as fans will not take a chance and book, I know I won't. Why don't you just go and see a show for what it is, if you want to see a specific person, see a concert, the musical is not about an performer. Normally I'd agree with you but I have already seen the show three times and would like to see it again with a different lead so I can compare performances. This show is not your standard one cast fits all as three different people play Alice at different times and different venues.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 26, 2017 9:42:12 GMT
The character of Alice spends most of the time onstage just as an onlooker to the action - there seemed to be little direction to her character for these long sections. She just looked on, frequently tucking her hair behind her ears - in fact, she did it so many times, I wondered if that was the actual direction!! Oh dear I wish you hadn't mentioned that. I'm going to see nothing else but her tucking hair now
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Post by alison on Feb 26, 2017 13:43:53 GMT
The character of Alice spends most of the time onstage just as an onlooker to the action - there seemed to be little direction to her character for these long sections. She just looked on, frequently tucking her hair behind her ears - in fact, she did it so many times, I wondered if that was the actual direction!! Considering Alice is the main character, she seemed poorly defined and strangely uninvolved in the background of several scenes. I'm sorry if that's what you saw (and I do agree about the hair tucking, although during One Knight at least I did feel like it was in character), and you're obviously not the only person to feel that from the comments here, but it's not what I saw so I figured I'd put my version out there. (Not saying your opinion isn't valid, just sharing mine, before anyone jumps on me). I saw very little of Alice just looking on (with Kerry, at least - Rachael was a little more of an onlooker). She dances with and reacts to the ensemble throughout the first few scenes in Wonderland, alternates between fangirling and trying to keep her daughter away from the "boyband" during One Knight, has a discussion with Ellie across the table about the cake during the Tea Party, and one with Jack standing beside her, worries about Ellie with Jack reassuring her then tries to talk sense into her during The Mad Hatter, and chickens out of going through the looking glass several times before she finally does it. And that's just the first act. I agree with the people saying there's not a massive amount of emotional height in the plot itself - there isn't. For me, when I saw the show in Brum, that came from watching Alice's changing relationships with Ellie and Jack, and herself, and most of that is in the details and not so much in the script. If that's not there, the show as a whole really suffers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 20:05:39 GMT
Just in case anyone is interested. Kerry will be playing Alice for all evening performances in Dublin June 19th - 24th
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 21:09:52 GMT
Kerry has also been announced to be playing Alice in Belfast March 27 - April 1...according to the theatre website.
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Post by shady23 on Feb 28, 2017 10:19:24 GMT
Anyone know of any ticket offers for Manchester? Can't even find an ATG discount for first night. Shows at full price.
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Post by daniel on Feb 28, 2017 10:48:43 GMT
Anyone know of any ticket offers for Manchester? Can't even find an ATG discount for first night. Shows at full price. Half price opening night - its showing up for me!
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Post by shady23 on Feb 28, 2017 10:49:41 GMT
I will try again. Thank you.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 28, 2017 16:43:09 GMT
Anyone know of any ticket offers for Manchester? Can't even find an ATG discount for first night. Shows at full price. For people without an ATG card there's something called the Star Sunday Offer coming up at half price and that's not just opening night. Stalls from £18.75 (Thursday) max 10 tickets.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:15:16 GMT
Michelle Pentecost to play Alice for the whole week in Derry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:15:47 GMT
Michelle Pentecost to play Alice for the whole week in Derry.
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Post by Mark on Mar 13, 2017 22:04:36 GMT
Anyone know of any offers about for Wimbledon? (Is it just lastminute.com that usually gets deals for Wimbledon?)
I note they have taken the upper circle off sale and it looks rather unsold for the run.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 14, 2017 12:50:48 GMT
SeeFilmFirst might be worth checking as well
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Post by Paul on Mar 19, 2017 12:01:52 GMT
I'm seeing Wonderland when it comes to Derry next week. I've only seen Michelle as the star to be in the UK tour of Annie so I'm excited to see her with a bigger role.
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Post by Paul on Mar 25, 2017 12:46:56 GMT
Tickets for this have not sold well in Derry, at all. I'm going this afternoon and from the website it looks as if there are more seats free than there are sold.
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Post by Paul on Mar 25, 2017 18:52:21 GMT
I've never wanted to leave at the interval as much in my life.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 25, 2017 19:50:13 GMT
Oh dear. That bad?
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Post by Paul on Mar 25, 2017 20:33:03 GMT
The cast were very energetic but I think the book is terrible. The child playing Alice's daughter was a little annoying. Of all the shows that could have been transferred from Broadway to the UK I feel they could have done something better.
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Post by dlevi on Mar 26, 2017 7:32:05 GMT
Please don't let this come to London. The whole piece has no heart and lame comedy. I honestly don't know why it got produced over here.
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Post by shady23 on Mar 26, 2017 7:50:54 GMT
Well, it's coming to Wimbledon. If that counts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 12:25:11 GMT
Its doing Richmond in August too. Two venues in London. Kerry isn't doing Richmond though.
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Post by staygee on Mar 26, 2017 14:18:30 GMT
Its doing Richmond in August too. Two venues in London. Kerry isn't doing Richmond though. That's a shame. When I saw it in Bromley I thought Kerry was the best thing in it. Though, that wasn't saying much I'm afraid. I saw the original New York production as well. The book has changed a lot but somehow it hasn't gotten even one word better. The songs are solid enough, I guess...
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Post by ali973 on Mar 26, 2017 14:35:04 GMT
Anyone seeing it in Wimbledon? I'm there on its first night.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 14:42:37 GMT
Anyone seeing it in Wimbledon? I'm there on its first night. Think I am gonna do Wimbledon. It hasn't sold too well though there so may wait for a bit to book as there may be discounts I imagine!
Anyone who has seen the show, is it a big production? Because sitting at the Richmond the other day, looking at the size of the stage, will a big production fit? I imagine so obviously as they have booked it, but it may be a squeeze haha.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 19:51:28 GMT
Interval thoughts...I'm enjoying it for what it is. Great theatre it is not. Kerry Ellis' and Natalie McQueen's voices are probably the saving grace of the entire show.
A few of the songs are good, but the rest a very forgetful, to the point I can't even remember them now without looking at the programme.
The book is dire, I feel it has potential to be a good story, but it feels like it is still in workshop status.
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Post by Paul on Mar 27, 2017 21:23:41 GMT
My thoughts on the show were not as polite as yours 😂
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 27, 2017 21:33:52 GMT
My thoughts on the show were not as polite as yours 😂 Don't hold back - tell us! We can take it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 22:02:17 GMT
My thoughts on the show were not as polite as yours 😂 Too be honest I saw your thoughts on it the other day, so was expecting the worst haha. As I said at the interval, Kerry and Natalie were the saving graces of the show, really enjoyed "I Will Prevail", pretty much the only song I remember. Wendy Peters is completely wasted as a performer in this, but her 2 songs were good (well the songs weren't great, but her performance was great, really reminded be of Hyacynth Bucket...Bouquet) I would say I was glad to see it for myself and that I wouldnt be rushing to see it again...now the unfortunate thing is, my friend got me tickets for tomorrow night for Christmas, not realising I had already had booked for myself tonight. And I didnt even have the heart to let her know I was seeing it tonight. Luckily it was so forgetful that it will probably be like seeing it for the first time again.
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Post by Paul on Mar 27, 2017 22:23:15 GMT
I enjoyed Michelle as Alice even though the actual character was very annoying. The whole time I was thinking 'oh just go through the ******* looking glass already, you know you're going to do it eventually.'
I actually thought Natalie sounded very weak compared to Michelle. I can imagine Michelle belting defying gravity in Wicked but can't imagine Natalie.
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