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Post by peggs on Feb 28, 2018 21:08:31 GMT
Rave / party scene? Oh dear. How does it compare to the dreadful one at the start of Everyman ? And I was doing quite well forgetting that, this has potentially taken on a new horror!
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Post by callum on Feb 28, 2018 23:49:08 GMT
A plastic frock?! What is the gore rating like for this please? Though sounds like may be driven mad long before that becomes an issue. Not particularly gruesome - only a coating of blood following murders and the goriest moments, the dual beheadings, are not that gory at all.
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Post by Snciole on Mar 1, 2018 10:47:12 GMT
It did give me Everyman vibes, but to be honest Everyman wasn't that great so I haven't remembered a ton of it. Kinnear/Stephen Boxer's red suit and the Norris's weird "Go higher, MUST go higher" approach to fill the Olivier stage.
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Post by nash16 on Mar 1, 2018 11:26:52 GMT
#congagate #speakingwordsbackwardsgate
It almost looks like a mocumentary.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 1, 2018 12:04:45 GMT
Speaking backwards, raving, carrier bags on heads (did the NT pay 5p per carrier) ... gutted I didn’t get a ticket for this
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Post by turbo25 on Mar 1, 2018 12:05:44 GMT
#congagate #speakingwordsbackwardsgate It almost looks like a mocumentary. It really does!! I figured out the speaking backwards bit in the 2nd act..."Thebcam.....thebcam...." - lord, such nonsense. Poor attempt at Twin Peaks...
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Post by turbo25 on Mar 1, 2018 12:08:02 GMT
What I want to know is were the witches pole dancing as implied in the photos on the nationals website? Although they seem to have disappeared from there for some reason. Here they are. lovelondonloveculture.com/2018/02/02/inside-the-rehearsals-of-macbeth-national-theatre/ They do climb poles quite a lot, but there is no pole dancing unfortunately....doesn't really make much sense. Most likely the poles are meant to look like those things they have at Glastonbury...or something, I dunno...who can possibly say...
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 1, 2018 12:45:55 GMT
the poles are a cheap way of filling the stage? ... or they represent the greasy pole a person can climb in life. gedit?
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Post by peggs on Mar 1, 2018 14:14:48 GMT
Thanks callum for gore update. Having watched that video what on earth?! Does remind me of everyman and since I loathed that it bodes just brilliantly, I feel my niece's view of Macbeth that it is stupid could well be most useful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 10:06:57 GMT
There is bad
Then there is awful
Then there is terrible
Then you have Rufus Norris
This utter pile of sh*te
Has confirmed the man is incapable of directing anything
The fact he can’t even offer a half decent Shakespeare and his lack of any experience with this playwright as a director
Says it all
In a way it’s good all these Macbeth’s have come along at the same time
It will give the RSC a chance to shine with their version
The concepts and staging of their production is quite quite something
And let’s face it Their two leads really make Duff and Kinnear seem rather Insignificant
If the arts media wanted any ammunition to mock and belittle Norris
He has given it to them on a silver platter With a knife and fork ready to attack
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 10:25:32 GMT
There is bad Then there is awful Then there is terrible Then you have Rufus Norris This utter pile of sh*te Has confirmed the man is incapable of directing anything The fact he can’t even offer a half decent Shakespeare and his lack of any experience with this playwright as a director Says it all In a way it’s good all these Macbeth’s have come along at the same time It will give the RSC a chance to shine with their version The concepts and staging of their production is quite quite something And let’s face it Their two leads really make Duff and Kinnear seem rather Insignificant If the arts media wanted any ammunition to mock and belittle Norris He has given it to them on a silver platter With a knife and fork ready to attack I can't actually tell whether you've seen it or not...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 13:55:03 GMT
Probably just the first half, if anything.
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Post by martin1965 on Mar 3, 2018 14:13:05 GMT
There is bad Then there is awful Then there is terrible Then you have Rufus Norris This utter pile of sh*te Has confirmed the man is incapable of directing anything The fact he can’t even offer a half decent Shakespeare and his lack of any experience with this playwright as a director Says it all In a way it’s good all these Macbeth’s have come along at the same time It will give the RSC a chance to shine with their version The concepts and staging of their production is quite quite something And let’s face it Their two leads really make Duff and Kinnear seem rather Insignificant If the arts media wanted any ammunition to mock and belittle Norris He has given it to them on a silver platter With a knife and fork ready to attack And a warm welcome back to Mr Sunshine!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 14:30:38 GMT
Too many Mary Sunshines don’t make for a very balanced view of things... We need a few ‘baddies’ on the board, and remember: That there's a little bit of good In everyone In everyone you'll ever know Yes, there's a little bit of good In everyone Though many times, it doesn't show It only takes a taking time With one another For under every mean veneer Is someone warm and dear Keep looking... For that bit of good in everyone The ones you call bad Are never all bad So try to find that little bit of good Just a little, little bit of good Is someone warm and dear Keep looking... For that little good in everyone Although you meet rats They're not complete rats So try to find that little bit of good!
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Post by andromedadench on Mar 3, 2018 16:12:10 GMT
There is bad Then there is awful Then there is terrible Then you have Rufus Norris This utter pile of sh*te Has confirmed the man is incapable of directing anything The fact he can’t even offer a half decent Shakespeare and his lack of any experience with this playwright as a director Says it all In a way it’s good all these Macbeth’s have come along at the same time It will give the RSC a chance to shine with their version The concepts and staging of their production is quite quite something And let’s face it Their two leads really make Duff and Kinnear seem rather Insignificant If the arts media wanted any ammunition to mock and belittle Norris He has given it to them on a silver platter With a knife and fork ready to attack You need to pen a 2019 Edinburgh Fringe one man show called ''The Good, the Bad and the Rufus Norris''.
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Not always very high value in terms of ticket yield or donations
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Post by Xanderl on Mar 3, 2018 16:18:06 GMT
There is bad Then there is awful Then there is terrible Then you have Rufus Norris Nice to have you back!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 16:20:42 GMT
^ But why stage it in Edinburgh? Better to ask Rufus if he’ll work it into his schedule at the National. Put it on in the Olivier and he’ll get a sure-fire hit! It’ll be his first... A win-win situation for all concerned.
I’d certainly buy a ticket!
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 4, 2018 0:49:40 GMT
After seeing this, this evening, this felt like a can of Coca Cola that has been laying in the sun for 2 weeks. i.e. flat and warm.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 9:35:09 GMT
I also saw it yesterday and agree with what everyone has said. This production was very promising but alas it failed. I've never seen Macbeth onstage before but have seen a few film versions , and still somehow got confused. For me the set did seem a bit like ' how do we uselessly fill the stage?' 'with big poles that are not really used in the show!'. I also wanted the witches to be a bit more scary and just found the running around to be very generic and a lazy way to convey madness. Kinnear and Duff were both good but not overly great in my opinion, I wanted a but more from their performances. The rest of the cast were also good but nothing extraordinary. Also I found it odd is that the first and second half had stylistically different tones as in the first half they use deodorant the bridge and big bits of scenery but in the second only a few bits of furniture was used and they used the big plastic curtain to cover half the stage. I liked the use of sound and the trumpets, the beheddings were cleverly done, and I did like the set design if it was a bit odd. I did enjoy the show and it was a alright production but I just wanted more and it did not deliver, if you want to see some good Shakespeare in London at the moment see Julius Caesar at the bridge, I was thinking about how much I enjoyed it while watching this which tells you something.
For a while now I have been giving Norris the benefit of the doubt being artistic director and I think he is doing a good job programming everything but his actual directing is a bit meh. I have seen most of his shows there since he has become AD Andy I don't think I will rush to see anymore.
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Post by lonlad on Mar 4, 2018 10:41:49 GMT
What does this mean? ? The mind boggles. Does the bridge smell? >> as in the first half they use deodorant the bridge
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 10:49:57 GMT
What does this mean? ? The mind boggles. Does the bridge smell? >> as in the first half they use deodorant the bridge It means my bloody auto correct is being stupid and can't spell. It is meant to say 'used' not 'use deodorant'. Sorry for my spelling mistakes, I can do many things but sadly spelling is not one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 11:16:50 GMT
Interesting.
To note the RSC Macbeth
Is all but sold out at the moment
I think 2 performances have a few tickets left
I am sure tickets will pop up nearer each date
But it’s pretty impressive given the run is in rep until the autumn
And the show doesn’t start for over a week
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Post by cirque on Mar 4, 2018 12:13:08 GMT
overheard front of house saying to someone who couldnt get tickets.....its mainly schools,Macbeth is on syllabus.We do seem to cater more for schools at RSC these days.
Perhaps explains the popularity.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 4, 2018 12:16:52 GMT
Interesting. To note the RSC Macbeth Is all but sold out at the moment I think 2 performances have a few tickets left I am sure tickets will pop up nearer each date But it’s pretty impressive given the run is in rep until the autumn And the show doesn’t start for over a week Ecclestone is a far bigger name in the wider world than Kinnear. Former pilots of the TARDIS tend to come with their own fan base as well. That will be contributing to ticket sales - as will the fact that Macbeth is a popular play with audiences and school parties.
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Post by crowblack on Mar 4, 2018 12:35:32 GMT
A lot of returns up for the NT Macbeth, including £15 front ones - I've just returned a £45 for a better one at £15 (I had already booked trains)
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Post by Theo on Mar 4, 2018 12:40:16 GMT
Is this one to avoid ? I noticed quite a few seats are available to book now, as opposed to last week. I'm in the midst of planning my next visit to London and as I still have a NT credit voucher I am tempted to book ...
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Post by lynette on Mar 4, 2018 12:43:46 GMT
I long for schools or rather the exam boards to set Troilus and Cressida but they won’t because they only did Macbeth at school so they don’t know any other plays. We are stuck into Macbeth for ever when as we know each play comes into its own in an era and this is surely an era for torn allegiances and cynicism. All plays for all time, yes but nuanced. ( same with poetry syllabus, don’t get me started..)
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Post by jasper on Mar 4, 2018 13:45:22 GMT
I long for schools or rather the exam boards to set Troilus and Cressida but they won’t because they only did Macbeth at school so they don’t know any other plays. We are stuck into Macbeth for ever when as we know each play comes into its own in an era and this is surely an era for torn allegiances and cynicism. All plays for all time, yes but nuanced. ( same with poetry syllabus, don’t get me started..) Exam boards set a number of plays for teachers to choose form eg AQA sets Macbeth Romeo and Juliet The Tempest The Merchant of Venice Much Ado About Nothing Julius Caesar The choice of play is up to the teacher. However, teachers tend to choose a play that is short and will keep the limited attention span of the pupils, hence Macbeth. It also appeals to boys with its violence. They usually remember the beheadings and fights.
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Post by martin1965 on Mar 4, 2018 15:12:02 GMT
overheard front of house saying to someone who couldnt get tickets.....its mainly schools,Macbeth is on syllabus.We do seem to cater more for schools at RSC these days. Perhaps explains the popularity. They always did, indeed it would seem idd if they ignored the syllabus.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 17:45:59 GMT
Don't forget teachers also choose texts where the school already has the books! They're not going to buy a whole new set if they can help it!
I'm REALLY gutted that this doesn't sound good! I'm going in May and I was very excited, and I chose this over the RSC one and it sounds as though I've made a big mistake.
I've only seen Macbeth once and never did it at school, so I don't know it well at all. I saw the Crucible production a few years ago. I don't remember anything about it other than they had a big round table covered in fruit and dead branches and skulls, and the ghosts came up through the middle of the table.
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